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Can we talk about how much they whitewash talia???? Like bitch shes arab have u seen an arab white as a fucking chinese beauty standard???
okay i always think about this so i will rant under it!!
taliaโs whitewashing have been a problem but i think the problem is not her having light skin, because arabs can be pale. pale skinned arabs do exist!! the problem with her skin color is that when she helps the plot in a good way, for example when she helps batman, she has pale skin. when she is a villain in the story she has darker skin. this is actually what disturbs me. not her having pale skin or dark skin, i am fine with both,, but i get sick when i see her skin color change according to when she is โgoodโ or โevilโ
for example in no manโs land storyline she has pale skin and white features and she helps bruce in this one:
when i first saw her i didnt think she was talia lmao. and i always can guess even from her shadow.
another example is talia in tom kingโs run. talia appears in these issues and starts a fight with selinaโ which is a ridiculous plot to mention.
and as you can see she is depicted as a brown skinned womanโ in a story where she is told as evil and jealous ex.
in her first appearances, she was also depicted as pale and she was a much more different character than she is now. she was passionate, brave, loyal, loving and caring and she was not afraid to cry in front of people. she was so well with her emotions. and she was such a colorful person.
in shadow war, she was depicted as a brown skinned woman and she was neither good or weirdly evil. she was morally ambiguous mostly. i liked this depiction of her more, esp when we consider how her depiction have been since 2000s
in one of my favorite talia stories, batman chronicles #8, she was depicted as pale skinned and personally i have no problem with that. she is an arab chinese woman and both arabs and chinese people can be pale and dark skinned. this โcolor skin rangeโ is not just one stereotypical thing. in a lot of regions throughout the world, it changes.
and another example is gotham city sirens (16-19 ? not sure) in the cover she has paler skin but in the story itself she is brown and eventually (spoilers) we learn that she had evil intentions.
so personally, it might not be my place to talk about this since i am neither arab or chinese let alone being an arab chinese woman, i dont have any problem when she is depicted as pale or dark skinned; the problem is her being โevilโ while she is brown skinned and โgoodโ when she is pale skinned. for me, her skin color shouldnt keep changing according to the stories because imo thatโs racist af. i hate it when writers decide her skin color according to her intentions.
thank you for bringing this up i needed to yap about it
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thinking about how messed up the family life of the batgirls were and how little people talk about their trauma in depth
babs lost two mothers (barbara and sarah), grew up with a creepy violent brother who tried to harm her and almost killed her, had to grow up fast because she had to take care of herself since her dad had to work all the time. babs grew up obsessed with having control because she knew she couldn't count on anyone to be there to protect her. apart from what he did to her, babs had her stepmother killed by the joker, her father tortured by the joker and her brother taken by the joker. babs' family will forever be haunted and targeted by that clown.
cass was raised as a weapon, was denied love and education and individuality and privacy and care. cass had to learn how to hurt others and has to forever live with the guilt even though she literally was taught nothing else. cass had to live on the streets for years without any ways of communicating directly with others while she was still a child. cass had to fight her biological parents and fight what she was raised to be.
stephanie had to grow up in an abusive household and carry the shame of her father's sins while trying to escape them. steph had to deal with her problems by herself as a child to not burden her mother. steph had a baby as a teenager. steph had to protect herself against her predator uncle and put him behind bars. steph had to fight her own father and survive him. steph had to die and even then, she was barely remembered.
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