you have to marvel at his consistency sometimes. he has a hot oven in his brain that he's scared to touch at all times

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you have to marvel at his consistency sometimes. he has a hot oven in his brain that he's scared to touch at all times

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Deltarune fan who sees Kris being turned into a puppet by an eldritch being and forced to psychologically torture their beloved childhood friend and sees Noelle being psychologically tortured by their beloved childhood friend who has been turned into a puppet by an eldritch being and thinks βyeah but also, think about how scared Spamton must have been (???????????????????)β
Guy who was βscared.β Lmao.
i've been thinking about the implications of movie genres on deltarune for a bit now following the phenomenal carol holiday essay which briefly touches on asgore's affinity for cowboys and superheroes as related to them being genres where justice is really forgivable and simple, where one good guy stops bad guys for a just cause, and always gets the girl (even if he had to lie and kill to do it), and since then i've been also really intrigued with the other genre that gets a lot of attention in deltarune, actually Way More thus far, which is horror, and it's everywhere. because susie identifies with monster movie monsters (susiezilla) and noelle loves horror movies, and then you kind of see it everywhere.
i was recently raving about the use of horror in deltarune because it is often the subversive space, it's the space where villains and final girls dominate the footprint of the genre, and it's famously historically (very problematically) queer. because it was always telling stories that stood in for cultural anxiety, it depicted characters who were different and it's become an affirmative and often reclaimed and celebrated genre in spite of and because of its history. carol clover's Men, Women, and Chainsaws explores the nuanced relationship of horror and gender politics β one of the things i remember is the androgyny of horror in killers and survivors alike;
The Final Girl is boyish, in a word. Just as the killer is not fully masculine, she is not fully feminine... (...) Lest we miss the point, it is spelled out in her name: Stevie, Marti, Terry, Laurie, Stretch, Will, Joey, Max. Not only the conception of the hero in Alien and Aliens but also the surname by which she is called, Ripley, owes a clear debt to slasher tradition. (40)
clover was criticizing the genre for this (for valid reasons), but i think it's also this semi-androgynous soup of heroes and villains in horror, plus the fact that villains become the face of the film and girls become the heroes, and the whole thing is always a bit camp and hyperbolic, that they attract the disenfranchised as an audience. for a brief moment, the gaze might be flipped on its head.
a movie like Evil Dead 2 which is the blatant real-world "Blood Crushers 2" (susie hasn't seen the first, and the protagonist's severed hand attacks... Basement), is the reverse case. you have a male protagonist named Ashley (whom clover considers a "Final Boy"). the movie is a cult classic with a comedic edge, and Ash is doing all sorts of looney tunes-esque gags against his own hand. it's not a movie that takes itself and its protagonist as seriously as a western or an average superhero flick. that noelle and susie are attracted to horror instead is reflective of their worldview, where things that are scary or strange might not be.
and, also, i recently watched Aliens so thinking of the blatant xenomorph inspiration with queen's design has been really hitting. like oh... of course. the xenomorph, a species with a queen mother... a character who represents a maternal horror. the queen xenomorph is not really an intentionally malicious force as Aliens presents it, rather, just a mother making the logical conclusion towards protecting and proliferating its species/its offspring, a simple survival calculation. the queen only actively attacks ripley in vengeance. for dess and noelle, who watched horror together, and who both certainly have complicated relationships with their mom, the xenomorph imagery on queen comes through in what it means to have a monster mother. and it comes through in queen's behaviour, as she makes a calculation seemingly to do what's best for the lightners, even if it doesn't hold up under the human morality microscope.
just so much to think about with how horror and movie monsters get employed in deltarune, how they weave themselves into the story. how they stand as the angle through which noelle and susie can put a subversive worldview to words. susie aligns herself with the movie monster only to find out... she is maybe the final girl. i am also led to think about the framing of the girl as a second hero alongside the contradictory prophecy panel "And last, the girl / at last, the girl". I don't think i have a central thesis for this analysis, but it's very fun seeing the bits and pieces of a genre leaking its way into this game's story and having it mean something... quite subtle.
it's fun to think about going into chapter 5 that susie identifies so heavily with susiezilla, which goes without saying is a godzilla reference β the guy with a FAMOUS destructive beef with japan. chapter 5 will hopefully have a lot of interesting generic interplay in this regard....
the way undyne has dialogue for 75% of the rooms in undertale + so many throwaway lore details get hinted at throughout the game but toby just leaves you to your own devices to make random educated guesses about what the hell happened to her eye
mettadinn and tennadinn ^_^

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is there an argument to be made that the house featured in the jackenstein fight with the famous ROOTS tree is supposed to maybe be... a hospital? it's the only one lacking the furniture & exit pattern the other ones have, instead it has hallways with plaques and a bathroom. kris of famous handwashing "you can never wash it all away" *disappeared into the bathroom for long periods of time* fame, the forgotten man+roots+this tree specifically association... I wonder if that is the meaning of this one particular house... and i wonder if the blocking of the exit and forcing you to take the chimney has some meaning for kris, maybe has something to do with the concept of going Nowhere that is also tied to kris' past...?
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napstablook really loves undyne in deltarune man im pukin all over the floor get her out that bunker NOW

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still crazy that mettaton and tenna both have vogue by madonna interpolations in their boss themes and it never gets talked about like omgggg my mettatenna I remember you're salacious music videos ... so star-crossed <3
I know where the bodies are buried Don't try to shut me up Don't try to distract me with numbers I did it all for love
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never lose sight of the further mettaton stocks like i am 100% coping for mew mew boss fight (or at least her being on screen) but we still have at least 2 routes for the three whole textboxes we get from him in the light world and this isnt even considering whatever the hell tenna_alt_plot means. always bet on ghost cousins thematic relevancy. napstablook is going to drop undyne friendship lore in ch5. i believe. ghost cousin fans are going to feast for life with this chapter.
i am SUPER BELIEVE!! they are certainly already so thematically relevant all over this game (the three of them have had their leitmotifs borrowed for spamton, tenna, and jackenstein) and i'm excited to see how it continues to unfold. i've always felt that mad mew mew's introduction lined up so well with deltarune, being added a month before chapter 1 and blurring the line between object & person and i know toby has also kind of felt that she's such a great addition to the cast dynamic bc we've been dripfed her presence ever since. so i'm BELIEVING. last we saw of her was in the 10th anniversary stream where she said "HEY!! i'm supposed to be the star exchange student" following the mettako segment WHICH COULD MEAN NOTHING. but she seems like a natural and obvious choice for inclusion, we're all coping and hoping.
also i agree i think "i have a feeling mr tenna and i will get along... famously" is SO textbook foreshadowing that generally implies... we will see them both again!! but... i also see the value if we don't. in the sense that by "banishing the angel's heaven", there might come a point where we can no longer follow our characters and their story and we may never get to see through what mettaton meant by that, it may be just beyond our view of this particular "week" of the character's life, and i would be okay with that too. but i could very much see the build up being that mettaton is hiding behind the tv at the festival, or possessing it, or we see fanclub posters going up - those feel like very toby fox-esque moves. and i'd be happy for either. i'm curious to see either way, we keep believing until the end no matter what because at the very least i am willing to bet my soul on mew mew motion for chap 5

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if i am honest, i am more likely to invest in the mad mew mew stocks for ch5 bc she hasn't reeally... had much in the way of motion in deltarune despite napstablook saying BOTH their cousins are relying on them. we only know she's into asgore, which makes me hope she'll be relevant by way of 'why write it if she's never going to pop up again?'
it's funny bc mettaton is my favourite thing ever on god's earth atm, but i have to say i think if he got very little content at this stage i'd be okay with it β i have always felt like the decision to give tenna to mettaton is a test to see if you can treat the characters as people the way susie is treating darkners like people as a lightner. you have to listen to tenna's wishes and give him up knowing you're not going to have access to him, because you earnestly want to make the fictional characters' lives better. you make a sacrifice to value tenna's autonomy and desires over your personal fulfillment as a gamer wanting to see everything you can see from him. so despite shit being about to hit the fan very soon, if i never got ANY mettaton and tenna content, i'd still feel confident i did the right thing and i feel like it'd serve the theme well. i accepted it was out of my hands and i let tenna go and i let mettaton have whatever journey he's going to have with tenna β no matter how involved i am in it.
that said.... i do just want more content of my fav so ofc i'm clamouring for big triple-t to come back to me... but i am okay if it doesn't happen because to me it's thematically strong in its own right. we'll see! i mean... i'll never stop believing because i think it's fun to dream and to speculate. but i'll also learn to accept it if this all stays within the realm of my imagination