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Oh damn it… those two are making me emotional.. I would have wished them both peace and a good ending. Unfortunately, the drama makes this story so perfect and so I cry myself to sleep. Haha 🥲

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Inktober Day 14: ROAM

Darth Maul

“A powerful force user roams in the shadows, clouding the light and the future with their presence.”

I wrote a post debunking the various myths about how “the Jedi condone slavery”, a while ago. Something I had omitted (because it’s such a big topic) was the following two statements that concern the clone troopers’ relations with the Jedi:

“The clones were genetically bred to have accelerated growth, so they’re technically child soldiers.”

“The clones were slaves of the Jedi.”

Both the above statements are inaccurate, let’s explore why. 

“The clones were child soldiers”

Let’s get the easy one out of the way first, because it’s a logic that cuts both ways. If age is our only determination of the maturity of a Star Wars character, then Grogu is not a baby. He is aged 50, and is thus a middle-aged man.

Who cruelly eats the babies of a woman…

… and knowingly tortures animals for his own sadistic pleasure.

Of course, I’m kidding. Grogu’s none of the above things.

The narrative frames him as a cute baby who does innocent baby stuff. Him eating the eggs is played off as comedic, as is him lifting with the frog. To this day, some fans still call him “Baby Yoda”.

Conversely, despite the clones being 10/14-years-old, their actions, behaviors, way of thinking, sense of humor, morals etc, are all those of an adult.

Like, Ahsoka is technically older than Rex in this scene.

The scene doesn’t portray them as peers, though. This isn’t written as “a teen and a tween talking”. No, Rex looks, acts and behaves like a grown-up and is thus framed as such by the narrative.

You can make the argument “they’re child soldiers”, but (unless you’re doing so in bad faith) you’d also have to argue that “Grogu’s an adult”.

“The clones were the Jedi’s slaves”

Nope. For all intents and purposes, they’re in the same boat as the Jedi, who George Lucas stated multiple times had been drafted to fight in the war.

Again: both the Jedi (monk/diplomats untrained for fighting on a battlefield) and clones (literally bred en masse only to fight) are being forced to fight by Palpatine and the Senate.

Though, on paper, the clones were commissioned by Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas, it was actually done by the Sith (who either manipulated or assassinated Sifo-Dyas then stole his identity, depending on the continuity you choose to adhere to). The rest of the Jedi had no idea these clones were being created.

So while the clones are slaves… they’re not owned by the Jedi.

They’re the army of the Republic, they belong to the Senate. This isn’t exactly a scoop, they refer to the clones as something to purchase…

… and manufacture.

As far as the Senate’s concerned, clones are property, like droids. 

Like there’s a whole subplot in The Bad Batch about this very point: after the war, the clones are decommissioned and left out to dry because they literally have no rights, they served their purpose.

The only trooper to ever canonically blame the Jedi for the clones’ enslavement is Slick, who the narrative frames as having been bribed and manipulated by Asajj Ventress into betraying his comrades.

Also, the only canonical Jedi shown to ever be mean, dismissive or mistreating the clones in any way, is Pong Krell.

And it’s eventually revealed he’s in fact a full-on traitor, hence why the story frames him as an antagonistic dick from the moment he’s introduced. He doesn’t represent the Jedi in any way.

We know this because the other Jedi we’ve been shown are always prioritizing their clones’ lives over theirs, if given the chance.

Finally, if we wanna get even more specific… as Commander-in-Chief of the Grand Army of the Republic (GAR), the clones belong to Palpatine. 

Palpatine who is a Sith Lord. 

Palpatine who arranged for the creation of the clones and had them all injected with a chip that would activate upon hearing a code-word…

… and forced them to murder their Jedi without hesitation or remorse.

When you bear all that  ⬆️  in mind and when you read this quote by George Lucas…

“The Jedi won’t lead droids. Their whole basis is connecting with the life force. They’d just say, ‘That’s not the way we operate. We don’t function with non-life-forms.” So if there is to be a Republic army, it would have to be an army of humans.”    - The Star Wars Archives: 1999-2005, 2020  

… narratively-speaking, everything falls into place.

Sidious knows that:

If he orchestrates a war designed to thin the Jedi’s numbers, corrupt their values and plunge the galaxy into chaos…

If he wants to draft the Jedi - peace-keeping diplomats who’d never willingly join the fray - to fight in his war…

… then the only way they won’t resist the draft and abstain from fighting is if they think joining the conflict will save lives.

So he creates a set of cruel, sadistic villains for them to face, opponents who will target innocent civilians at every turn…

… and instead of lifeless droids, he prepares for the Jedi an army of men… living, mortal people who, despite being well-trained, will be completely out of their league when facing the likes of Dooku…

… Ventress…

… Grievous…

… Savage Opress…

… or the defoliator, a tank that annihilates organic matter.

Thus, in order to save as many clone and civilian lives, the Jedi join the fray despite knowing that doing so will corrupt their values. 

And as the war rages on, a bond of respect is formed between the two groups.

Clearly, the Jedi don’t like the fact that the Republic is using the clones to fight a war, but for that matter, they don’t like being in a war, in fact they advocated against it.

However, it’s happening regardless of their issues with the idea or personal philosophies. Said The Clone Wars writer Henry Gilroy:

“I’d rather not get into the Jedi’s philosophical issues about an army of living beings created to fight, but the Jedi are in a tough spot themselves, being peacekeepers turned warriors trying to save the Republic.”

And bear in mind, the Jedi are basically space psychics, the clones are living beings that they can individually feel in the Force… 

… so the Jedi feel every death but need to move on, regardless, only being able to mourn the troopers at the end of every battle.

We see this in the Legends continuity too, by the way.

(that is, when the writers actually try to engage with the narrative)

Also, if you ask the clones, they’re grateful the Jedi have their backs.

When Depa Billaba voices her concerns about how the war is impacting the Jedi’s principles, troopers Grey and Styles are quick to make it clear how grateful they all are for the Jedi’s involvement:

So the clones aren’t the Jedi’s slaves. If anything, they’re both slaves of the Republic (considering how low the Jedi’s status actually is in the hierarchy).

Only I’d argue the clones have it much, much worse. 

The Senate sees the Jedi as “ugh, the holier-than-thou space-monk lapdogs who work for us”… but a Jedi has the option to give up that responsibility. They can leave the Order, no fuss or stigma. 

A clone trooper cannot leave the GAR! If they do, they’re marked for treason and execution. Again, they’re not perceived as “people”.

And it doesn’t help that the Kaminoans, the clones’ very creators, see the troopers as products/units/merchandise. A notion that the Jedi are quick to correct whenever they get the chance.

How The Clone Wars writers describe the clones’ relationship with the Jedi.

They’re indoctrinated to be soldiers and can’t leave without being considered criminals, as in the case of Cut.

Slick: “Yes, she offered me money. But she offered me something more important, something you wouldn’t understand: freedom!”

Slick: “Only a Jedi would ask that. It’s the Jedi who keep my brothers enslaved! We do your bidding, we serve at your whim. I just wanted something more.”

I have a question. Why don’t the Jedi truly en masse acknowledge clones have no choice in their servitude and how wrong that is? And actually work to do something?

Regardless of Slick’s allegiances to a shady person offering him “freedom!” even to this day everything he said can’t be dismissed because again and again the narrative itself reinforces his perspective by what it shows. He was a clone that identified as a slave on screen and the Jedi do have a part to play in that power structure. After all, the Jedi re-discovered Kamino and near immediately rushed these brainwashed souls to Geonosis for battle, a battle that killed all of Cut’s squadmates. It was the Jedi’s bidding the clones were acting under, under that battle and many others.

Cut: “It’s the day I felt my life didn’t have any meaning. Everyone I cared about, my team, was gone. I was just another expendable clone waiting for my turn to be slaughtered in a war that made no sense to me. Can you understand that, Rex?”

Ultimately, the Jedi have more rights and value than the clones, even as drafted citizens or at least the equivalent of draftees, and can have legal representation in court, political dialogues/arguments with the Supreme Chancellor and other leaders, automatically become civilians when they leave the Jedi Order, and have much more agency. They are not in the same boat. They are the clones commanding officers, they actually are informed with a greater knowledge pool at their disposal, and we can see how much power they wield over the clones because of this. Pong Krell demonstrates this systematic inequality to its extreme, with established high casualty numbers of clones that are known but carelessly disregarded by both the Republic and Jedi, and the clones are near defenceless against him in every capacity. Generally, clones die by the thousands and the Jedi just walk on.

Henry Golding: “In my mind, the Jedi see the clones as individuals, living beings that have the same right to life as any other being, but understand they have a job to do.”

And this is the crux of the issue. We’ve acknowledged the clones are slaves, but the Jedi just go along with it because they have a ‘job’ to do. Do the clones have jobs? No, they don’t, they have servitude. If the Jedi had basic morals, they would be starting underground railways to free clones, just like abolitionists did at great risk to themselves in society yet abolitionists still did it because they saw injustice. The Jedi would also be acknowledging the injustice and constantly strategising with sympathetic parties in the political and legal sector, but they don’t do that either in canon. The clones’ story is full of injustice and yet the Jedi take no meaningful action to even try to change the system for them.

I’m gonna have a radical take here. If the Republic uses slaves, it isn’t worth saving, it is ultimately just as evil as the Separatists on a systematic level. Which is why it becomes an Empire.

And if clones are ill-educated a fresh batch need to be taught they’re individuals and their lives have value for the first time in-between blasterfire, they shouldn’t be on the battlefield. Logically, the Jedi are complicit and enablers for an unjust system called the Republic, which owns slaves.

Remember, this is NOT about who would win in a fight. This is about who makes the best leader for Mandalore as a whole.

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