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found u from when someone posted a ss of when you said âgo back to tiktokâ to that one anti and oh my god it was the most based awesome thing ever iâm so happy people are fighting back against antis and not letting tumblr be their paradise. tbh antis can have tiktok but keep em away from here
Jfkfbf thank you, that's from my +18 account
Antis originated here but I find this place quite peaceful (more than the hell hole tiktok is) since you can curate your spaces easier and block tags. I miss those fandom days where we fought about ships but in a fun way and not therapy speaks
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Unfortunately I came across a very strange and misinformed video about Black Butler.
Itâs not good. Donât watch it. Unless you wanna ruin your day, in which case have fun.
Despite it all, I watched it. What left me wondering, however, was how off the mark the person who made the video was on, well, everything.
From their insistence that the Book of Circus Arc theme or point is non existent, to reading Cielâs character so badly they genuinely thought the Green Witch Arc did nothing for his character development.
While baffled, it also made me think on how someone could read Black Butler so badly.
Sure, you can say that thereâs no real way to read or interpret something âin the wrong wayâ but interpreting The Hunger Games as a pure battle-royale action story would make you believe itâs bad.
âWhy are we focusing so much on how the capitol preps them?â Or âWhy isnât Katniss winning everything?â Or âI wanna know more about the rebellionâ All questions that miss the actual point of the story - which is criticizing (not solving or ignoring) the way that media distracts us from violence via spectacle.
The same thing applies here. While there is no ârightâ way to consume media, thereâs things that the author makes clear they wanna focus when creating a story. Things that, if you understand, make the story youâre reading actually make sense.
And in Black Butler thereâs three things that you have to understand to properly get what Yana is saying.
Sebastian is the protagonist
Ciel and Sebastianâs relationship IS the story.
And that relationship is, fundamentally, a positive one.
A quicker version of it would be:
Black Butler is a love story from the POV of Sebastian, and you have to ship it to get it
- but thatâs not entirely true.
You can still look at it as a complex but ultimately positive rship and get in broad strokes of what itâs conveying. It doesnât have to be romantic. Although, it helps much more than a platonic framing.
(That said, interpreting their rship as father and son, still isnât the best way to go about it. Mostly because by its very nature of âsoul consumingâ their relationship is extremely sexually charged. And hey, if youâre into that I donât judge. However, if youâre desperately trying to interpret their rship as NOT romantic to the point you fall back on heteronormative patriarchal ideals of nuclear familiar as framing device, I donât think this interpretation bodes with you)
Now, having all that ground work:
Why do I say these are the key components to understand BB?
Okay so, first,
1. Sebastian is the Main Character. The protagonist.
Thereâs a lot of people who wanna argue against it, claiming heâs either the villain or the antagonist. Both wrong.
He does not function as an antagonist. Even if, and an emphasis on if, you consider Ciel to the protagonist, Sebastian isnât a narrative antagonist.
If you wanna go back to Creative Writing 101, be my guest. An antagonist is directly defined by the protagonist. Itâs the opposing force. If the protagonist wants A, the antagonist wants to stop them from getting A.
Sebastianâs catchphrase is âYes, my Lordâ. He never opposes Ciel, in fact quite the contrary. By the mere fact theyâve created contract, it means that theyâve both agreed in the inevitable outcome.
People want to frame Sebastian as the villain, because Ciel having his soul taken by a demon, would be a BAD END in the context of their moral compass. They see Ciel as a frail victim of abuse, whoâs being tricked by Sebastian, who wants Cielâs soul.
Which is an. Interpretation. A bad one. But still one.
The narrative (and whether the narrative fits your personal moral compass and lack of critical thinking is irrelevant) treats Ciel as an agent in his own destiny. The abuse he suffered was the moment in which he had no control. Itâs only after he meets Sebastian that he can rid of both his guilt and his despair, and do what he wants.
In this case though, itâs revenge.
The famous âAsthmaâ scene shows this. If Ciel is taken back to his past, he becomes helpless. Swarmed with pain and memories that make it so that he canât even react. Sebastian is his saving grace. If Ciel didnât have him, and the power he wields to rebuilt whatâs broken, he would crumble once more.
If Ciel has a panic attack, because of all the pain he has, Sebastian picks him up and says âyou are not a helpless child anymore, you are not a victim anymore, you have the power to do anything. So, what do you wanna do?â
Cielâs answer is to kill them.
A proper analogy would be to say that, if Sebastian offers a gun, Ciel pulls the trigger. They are both at fault. Sebastian, strictly speaking, is not here to directly cause Cielâs downfall, but as a tool Ciel uses to plunge into the abyss.
If, again if, you were to frame Ciel as a protagonist, Sebastian falls closer to the âVoice of reasonâ character. Not a literal voice of reason, but a literary one. If you have a protagonist and an antagonist exchanging ideals, the Voice of Reason serves to engage with the protagonist on their own ideals.
That said, Ciel isnât the protagonist. The story quickly falls apart if you interpret it as such.
Things such as Cielâs character arc beingâŚshall I say odd?
Itâs not that his character arc isnât there, but itâs never lineal. His goals stay the same, the only thing that happens is that we start to peel back the âwhyâs of his goals. Throughout the series itâs never about Ciel understanding himself better, he knows who he is, he knows what he wants, he knows why he wants it. He doesnât ever need to uncover these, but simply remember them. Because itâs always about the audience understanding Ciel.
He knows he wants revenge.
In the Circus Arc: He knows that he needs Sebastian because without him, the pain of the abuse he suffered would be too much to bear. But WE are introduced to it.
In the Book of Atlantis: He knows that with this new lease he does not want happiness and peace, he wants revenge. The one being told this is the audience.
In Green Witch Arc: He knows that their revenge isnât for his family, the real Ciel or guilt. Itâs because he wants it. Heâs angry, heâs upset, and this is entirely for him. The one being told this is the audience.
Except. Not really. The one either discovering or remembering these key moments - is always Sebastian.
Sebastian is the one who reassures him that he now holds the power of a demon to override the pain. Sebastian is the one who remembers that to override that pain, Ciel wants revenge. And Sebastian is the one who discovers that that revenge isnât built out of grief or guilt, but for himself.
We are witnessing it all, through the eyes of Sebastian.
This is why we have an extremely vague idea of who Ciel is, Sebastian does not have the whole picture.
If you havenât been reading this manga with your eyes closed, youâll realize we have a better grasp at Sebastianâs character than that of Ciel. We get a lot of insight on how he thinks and what he values through light hearted dialogue he has with the servants. You even see the character development in these little interactions.
Think about how when he first arrived to the mansion he magically created food with no regards to taste, but when he meets Bard he states that food is created to see whoever will eat it, smile.
That is character development, more than you will be able to see from Ciel.
Because Cielâs character, while not static, doesnât go from point A to point B. Mostly, cause it doesnât need to. He went through that when he lost the real Ciel and got Sebastian. Everything we are watching is the falling out.
Now, given the fact that Iâve told you that it makes more sense for Sebastian to be the protagonist/main character, and that he 100% isnât either a villain or antagonist in ANY of the interpretations you can get:
Do you believe me?
If you donât, youâll probably believe Yana herself.
This is from the first Volume, where Yana herself describes the process of making Black Butler. The primary idea behind the creation of BB was a butler as a âheroâ.
If you go back to the introductory chapter, you notice that Ciel is barely mentioned. Heâs simply the one to give Sebastian impossible tasks and standards that Sebastian must find how to overcome.
Ciel is properly introduced until the NEXT chapter. The second chapter has this formula too, introducing Lizzie as a problem to overcome. Although, to Sebastian the best way to âget rid of the problemâ is simply to indulge her.
The issue here being that the problem isnât as simple as a business meeting but something directly tied to Ciel and Cielâs past. Each time that Sebastian has to solve a problem, it chips away at Ciel. While with Lizzie he shows a persona, once heâs alone with Sebastian he acknowledges the toll it took on him. It serves to build Ciel as Sebastianâs master, and how some problems arenât as simple as discarding a tablecloth.
The third and the fourth, are a unified narrative, with a similar premise to the first chapter. Ciel gets kidnapped and Sebastian must find a way to retrieve him without raising suspicions.
If the first chapter is to set up what Sebastian must do as a butler, the third and the fourth serve to set up what he must do as a demon.
The entirety of the volume, and up to Book of Circus Arc, is about how Sebastian tries to follow the increasingly absurd orders that Ciel has - it is not about Ciel trying to solve them.
Thatâs how they work, we follow Sebastian for the most part, because heâs the one having to come up with the solutions.
If anything, in early Kuro, where the emphasis was more on a slice of life conflict, Ciel is the antagonist. Heâs the one creating problems for Sebastian to solve.
Whatâs more, in the second volume, the very first chapter is one from Sebastianâs POV. So far, we hadnât gotten an entire chapter from Cielâs POV. In fact, I would find it hard to point to a single chapter where Ciel is the POV throughout. The reveal of real Ciel and the flashback is the closest contender.
But once we move past early Kuro, and into Book of Circus, this set up changes.
Itâs fairly easy to assume that Ciel is the main character, because from this point on the conflict of the plot sorta surrounded him. We spend a lot of time with him and with his story. The enemies start being people directly tied to Ciel and Cielâs trauma. Rarely, if at all, we get to see Sebastian before he met Ciel.The framing device for the story, is Ciel.
This is where point 2 gets intertwined.
2.- Sebastian and Cielâs relationship IS the story.
The story begins at the point where Sebastian and Ciel met. Who Ciel was before he met Sebastian, informs why heâs the way he is when he does. You have to know all he went through to understand why heâs a brat, why he lashes out. However Sebastianâs past doesnât matterâŚbecause Sebastian himself doesnât care much for who he was, before he was âSebastianâ. Thatâs also part of the narrative.
Unlike Ciel, he doesnât seem opposed to revealing information from before the contract. He talks about how pets from where he is from are gross, he talks about how he knows how to dance because of other places heâs been to, and alludes to the life he's lived before.
Just that, to him, they're footnotes.
He makes allusions to a very bland, uninteresting life, up to the point he meets Ciel.
Thatâs why we donât know more about his past.
As for why we focus on Cielâs storyâŚokay maybe we need Creative Writing lessons 102
I studied Dramaturgy for about 3 to 4 years. And something you notice is how play-writing is the quintessential story telling. Itâs making it work with the bare bones of a story.
Some other mediums have more finesse, more depth, or more spectacle - all amazing things that work for whatever theyâre created for. But understanding a play, how and why it works, helps understand the fundamentals of any derivative story telling medium.
Particularly, conflict.
Conflict is dialogue and dialogue can take many forms. A story, in its essence, is a dialogue between two opposing ideas.
Take Batman, for example, who embodies the ideas of justice and order. On his own, heâs not a well rounded character.
If you ONLY present him, in a vaccum with nothing else, you donât have a character. You have a list of characteristics that youâre supposed to know.
You only know who he is when you have dialogue with another character.
I say Dialogue, but it doesnât necessarily mean spoken language at one another. Dialogue can mean fist fighting, playing tabletop games, talking to other people about the other, or even just a competition. The idea is to simply to compare and contrast both ideas.
If you want an example on how tabletop games serve as dialogue, watch the video âWell, Someone Had to Explain the Liarâs Dice Sceneâ by Lord Ravecraft
Another example, were we to retake Batman, you have him fight Joker. Whoâs the embodiment of chaos and randomness.
In the following picture, you get far more information than the one previously shown. While the Joke fights with daggers and fake guns, Batman only uses his fists. He doesnât use the tricks that Joker does. His serious demeanor, contrasted with Jokerâs glee at the dangerous situation. The fact that Batman has a deathly grip on Jokerâs shirt, while the Joker doesnât, which shows a desperation to catch him.
You are being shown, through a dialogue, who Batman is.
Itâs so much easier and much more effective to explore a character through another character.
This is the reason why Shonen has a tendency to make incredibly good gay ships. If you want to explore Narutoâs personality, and his feelings of inferiority, you HAVE to have him interact with Sasuke.
If you wanna understand Hinataâs passion for volleyball, you have him enjoy himself the most with the only other crazy motherfucker whoâs as obsessed with volleyball - Kageyama.
And I think that originally, Yana had this problem.
Sebastian was the protagonist, but she had little room to develop him as a character in the confines of the manor, dealing with random enemies.
She likely tried to create Grell as someone of the same stature as Sebastian. Someone who could be this other person to engage dialogue with and show or allude to his past a bit more.
The problem being that Sebastian didnât care for his past. Or really, engaging with anyone. He sees everyone as below him, but when confronted with Grell who isnât below him, he doesnât wanna talk to her.
So youâre stuck in conundrum.
How do you have dialogue with a character, that as a character trait, doesnât really wanna have dialogue?
Well, Grell also solves the problem. Because only the moment she gets him to start any semblance of a dialogue - is questioning why heâs serving Ciel.
And this is the moment when itâs perfectly cemented that the focus of the story is their relationship.
Why is Sebastian here? Why does he stay? What did he see in Ciel that made him want this extremely convoluted contract?
THATS the dialogue.
THATS the conversation weâre having in Black Butler.
We need to know Ciel because understanding who he is, letâs us know WHY /Sebastian/ is here.
Then slowly, with the introduction with the Undertaker, we find out Sebastianâs conflict.
Which isâŚ
Heâs scared of losing Ciel. It becomes apparent with the constant imagery of the Undertaker taking away Ciel and at some point even obtaining r!Cielâs body, that heâs worried it might happen.
But he can only be worried that Ciel might be taken away if he wants to stay near Ciel.
And thatâs his character arc.
Realizing that he actually likes Ciel, cares for him and the role he plays a butler that he doesnât want this to end.
In the first chapters, he doesnât feel a need to protect Ciel anymore than whatâs strictly necessary. Just donât die, thatâs about as deep as his involvement in chapter 4 gets.
But by the Green Witch Arc, he feels a need to protect Ciel from ANY harm.
This is why I also said
3.- Their relationship is fundamentally a positive one.
In broad strokes, Sebastian to Ciel is the person who allows him to survive. Heâs not worried about giving up his soul since heâs already dead. While Ciel to Sebastian, is someone whoâs making him have fun. Heâs slowly becoming more and more attached to Ciel and the life he has with Ciel.
Their relationship is not that of just a predator and prey, but also of master and pet.
In the terms that Black Butler itself would call: Sebastian is a wild wolf acting like a collared dog.
Ciel is aware that the wild beast will eat him at the end of the day, but if he clings hard to leash for now, he might just be able to have Sebastian maul his abusers.
Sebastian as a dog, currently finds that he enjoys being a chained dog.
(This is demonstrated in the Green Witch arc where he quite literally says, he doesnât wanna be a wild beast and prefers to be a butler)
And much like the actual DOG Sebastian, Ciel constantly interprets his attempts to get close and protect him, as an act of aggression.
This push and pull of Cielâs perception of Sebastian and Sebastianâs true motives is what feeds the story.
And the briefs interludes were that isnât the case (what other people call the âplotâ, but I would refer to as the connective tissue) such as Sullivan and Wolfram, the other servantâs past, the grim reapers and the like, serve as a parallel to Ciel and Sebastian relationship. Either to signify how they care for each other, highlight their weaknesses or fears, or explore how they feel.
Itâs no surprise that Sullivan and Wolfram are parallels to Ciel and Sebastian. A sheltered sickly child who seeks the protection of a cold hearted machine that only knew how to kill, but who eventually found he cared for her genuinely.
Undertaker and Claudiaâs relationship being heavily paralleled with them, even though we arenât 109% sure what they had but heavily implied it was a romantic attraction from the undead supernatural creature and a Phantomhive.
Everything is a parallel.
Thatâs why, like the approach of the terrible original video, is flawed.
Trying to interpret Black Butler as action scene after action scene, with mystery after mystery with the only connective tissue being the mystery of who burned down the mansion - is missing the trees for the forest.
Thatâs not the point.
And if youâre too much of a prude to engage with gothic horror in its gothic horror game, I see little point as to why you even bother to engage with it at all.
A lot of people, including the person who create the video, simply refuse to acknowledge Black Butler IS the story of Sebastian and Ciel as a close and positive relationship, romantically and sexually charged. The reason for it being that theyâre âput offâ by it.
Part of me wonders how much that is genuinely true, and how much is just performative outrage. Itâs like ignoring the fact that Cersei and Jami are in an incestous relationship and try to frame it as âplatonic loveâ, because the idea of it is THAT off putting.
But regardless of that, if you donât like the fact that itâs as canon as canon can get, I would reccomend you donât engage with the story at all.
As Iâve explained, the entirety of the series is about them. If you refuse to see Sebastian and Ciel as, at the very least, a duo that cares deeply for the other - you arenât reading Black Butler.
I have no idea what youâre reading.Perhaps your own biases and subconscious stigma with British aesthetic. At that point, watch the fucking British Royalty Gossip Magazine. Youâd find more substance there.
Just donât be like the person in the video, please? Donât play dumb. Donât ignore the fact that Yana is a Shotacon, donât ignore the fact Sebastian is a hero, donât ignore the fact that the entirety of the story is based on Sebastian and Cielâs dynamic.
Because if you do, you are ashamed. You are ashamed of what this story is about. You donât wanna engage with the text, you want to engage with yourself. You wanna project into Ciel whatever traumas and experiences you have, for the sake a vanity project, where you come out as the morally superior.
You donât wanna talk about Black Butler, you wanna talk about how good YOU are. How you âdonât sinâ by watching it âwithout all the gross unholy stuffâ.
Which is the exact opposite of what BB is about.
So, if you donât want to, save us all the humiliation fetish and leave.
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