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Scylla: a small appreciation post and character study, part 3 (+ slight epilogue spoilers)
🌊🌊 (Part 1 here) 🌊🌊
🌊🌊 (Part 2 here) 🌊🌊
So, in my previous posts I talked about the victim blaming that is done towards Scylla by the game and its characters, mainly Circe and Melinoë to a lesser extent, and that there is a certain line of dialogue that hints at Nymph Scylla being a relatively normal person, that being:
Scylla: Ohh, you keep trying to kill me, lady! The former Sea-Nymph side of me says just forget it and move on! But, I don’t like to listen to her anymore.
I already analysed this line and the possible ramifications of this comment in part 2 of this series, so I will continue on without further ado.
So, other than being your everyday nymph—pretty, flirty and mischievous—we also know that she was 1) a chatterbox, which is obvious in-game but is confirmed to hold true way back when as well by Circe:
Circe: I grew up underneath the sea, and Scylla I remember from my youth. Always yelping about this or that! Was deafening!
And 2) that Scylla was always a diva with big dreams and ambitions in the music industry, as Scylla herself admits once you get the previous conversation with Circe:
Mel: Are you familiar with the enchantress Circe? She mentioned that she knew you in her youth... though, I’m uncertain if you were on friendly terms.
Scylla: The enchantress Circe, no that doesn’t ring a bell! The only Circe I knew was the talentless pathetic little runt of the litter of Helios himself! What has this other Circe got to say?
Mel: She gave me the impression you were always rather boisterous, even back then. Perhaps already practicing the kinds of songs you think shall bring you fame.
Scylla: It’s no secret I always knew what I wanted to be, lady. Always knew what I was meant to be! Circe and so many others... <scoff> all they ever did was get in my way! Same as you.
The thing is, Circe then says this after Melinoë asks if she knows which witch cursed Scylla because of what the Book of Shadows says about her:
Circe: I do not curse, poppet. My practice is about revealing the true nature of a thing. When last I checked, Scylla had made hers clear.
So, according to her, Scylla was always a monster and she merely made her appearance match her personality/true nature. Again, the Book of Shadows says so:
BoS: A witch cursed her, you know; to look the way she is, though not to be. Her disposition is of her own choice.
What I didn’t fully take into account when writing part 1 & 2 of these Scylla analyses is that the Book of Shadows was written, to an extent, by Hecate.
Hecate, who is Melinoë from another timeline.
Hecate, who probably had to fight Scylla on her way to Chronos and resented her for being in her way much like Melinoë does.
Hecate, who is good friends with Circe, who cursed Scylla and always saw her as a monster simply because the god she was in love with (Glaucus) loved Scylla and not her.
Hecate, who is good friends with Odysseus, whose awful run-in with Scylla is a legendary tale that anyone who is anyone knows about even if he is a fan of Scylla and the Sirens in the present time.
Not to mention that the Moon was full the night Circe cursed her—
—meaning that Selene most likely saw the whole thing and took her fellow Unseen’s side in this predicament, which may have skewed Hecate’s opinion on Scylla’s inherent monstrosity even further in case she had any doubts left.
After all, we know far too well that gods can be very condescending towards those they dislike, whether they are mortals (Aranche and Dora), other gods (Eris), or Titans (Prometheus), and that they very rarely, if ever, change their minds about those preconceptions.
I might be reading too far into this (I’m a fanfic writer and utterly fascinated by Scylla, so I wouldn’t be too surprised if I was) but I really like this interpretation. Not to toot my own horn or anything, of course! It’s just particularly interesting and even funny to me since Mel seems to have inherited Circe’s on-sight hatred for Scylla, so this reading adds an extra layer to that as well.
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- i hate chloe’s makeup. so much. like yeah honestly a 14yo would pick it but i hate it dkgfkdhd so yeah definitely switched that shit
- protective friend Chloe!! asked for NO pickles Chloe!!
- her hair also kinda bothers me?? instead of chopping it off i decided on letting the whole ‘growth’ thing come literally in her hair
- same with ‘letting loose’ like her hair being less uptight
- doesn’t mean she doesn’t uphold her own standards for herself tho
- this is if Chloe went to therapy haha (WHICH COULDVE BEEN ACHIEVED-)
- i love the idea of her giving pollen little accessories so they could match- like matching sunglasses and rings n stuff,
- “my queen, who did you commission to get these teeny glasses?” “i dont want to answer that right now, just put them on!” (she paid marinette lmao)
i also want to add, for a queen, there really isn’t much.. regality to her suit??? no fancy accents that suggest wealth or royalty so like. obviously i looked at cat walker’s design and went GIMME!! guys she wears designer shit, why wouldn’t it show up in her QUEEN bee form like?? shiny jewellery! queen shit idk!
this Chloe is redeemable, well written and is also a nice bitch :)
i write this with the thought of her being overtly giving to her friends, like
“DADDY!!” “it’s an invite-only party, darling, we can’t just-” “I WANT THEM INVITED! AND BRING THEM BETTER OUTFITS, trust me, daddy they need it,”
in front of her mother she does act like a spoiled brat but does apologise as soon as she’s gone,, definitely working on that. also whenever she witnesses marinette and her mom having nice moments shes definitely more likely to get akumatised BUT the charm and her mindfulness does get her out of it
…. we really were robbed of redemption arc Chloe huh. so much potential wasted
and fuck it if zoe suddenly exists they have a better relationship because i like sisterhood and chloe needs people to understand her (Zoe’s probably the first to and get closer anyway)
“if you so much as look at my sister in the eye i swear i will-” “CHLOE.”
- i hate chloe’s makeup. so much. like yeah honestly a 14yo would pick it but i hate it dkgfkdhd so yeah definitely switched that shit
- protective friend Chloe!! asked for NO pickles Chloe!!
- her hair also kinda bothers me?? instead of chopping it off i decided on letting the whole ‘growth’ thing come literally in her hair
- same with ‘letting loose’ like her hair being less uptight
- doesn’t mean she doesn’t uphold her own standards for herself tho
- this is if Chloe went to therapy haha (WHICH COULDVE BEEN ACHIEVED-)
- i love the idea of her giving pollen little accessories so they could match- like matching sunglasses and rings n stuff,
- “my queen, who did you commission to get these teeny glasses?” “i dont want to answer that right now, just put them on!” (she paid marinette lmao)
i also want to add, for a queen, there really isn’t much.. regality to her suit??? no fancy accents that suggest wealth or royalty so like. obviously i looked at cat walker’s design and went GIMME!! guys she wears designer shit, why wouldn’t it show up in her QUEEN bee form like?? shiny jewellery! queen shit idk!
this Chloe is redeemable, well written and is also a nice bitch :)
i write this with the thought of her being overtly giving to her friends, like
“DADDY!!” “it’s an invite-only party, darling, we can’t just-” “I WANT THEM INVITED! AND BRING THEM BETTER OUTFITS, trust me, daddy they need it,”
in front of her mother she does act like a spoiled brat but does apologise as soon as she’s gone,, definitely working on that. also whenever she witnesses marinette and her mom having nice moments shes definitely more likely to get akumatised BUT the charm and her mindfulness does get her out of it
…. we really were robbed of redemption arc Chloe huh. so much potential wasted
and fuck it if zoe suddenly exists they have a better relationship because i like sisterhood and chloe needs people to understand her (Zoe’s probably the first to and get closer anyway)
“if you so much as look at my sister in the eye i swear i will-” “CHLOE.”
Remember the furst few minutes of Soul Crusher when Chloé instantly took Zoé under her wing and tried to pass on all the (admittedly messed up) knowledge she had learned, just like an awesome big sister?
This is literally my ideal Chloe. She’s not “Zoe level” nice. She’s a Karen like her mother but she uses her “Karen” likeness for good and fun things. She’s the one who’s make teasing remarks at her friends but would kill whoever genuinely insults them. And YES she would drown them with gifts as a way to show affection-
Sometimes a little sweetness goes a long way to temper the vinegar within.
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It’s so hard loving a complex fictional woman because assholes will try to turn you against her by listing off all her flaws and it’s like yeah no shit, that’s the whole point. What aren’t you getting about this?
I’m playing Persona 5 Strikers again after so many years (it realised in 2020 and I played it for an ungodly amount of time until I decided to buy P5R after much contemplation) and it’s so damn FUNNY because the main plot revolves around the AI and people exploiting it for evil/self-serving reasons and how it eventually gets out of hand and becomes sentient and literally subjugates the world bit by bit, turning the masses into brainless zombies that rely on it 24/7 for everything and anything.
(Well, that’s simplifying it since Sophia is an AI as well and she’s sweet and nice and genuinely becomes more and more human as the game progresses, but yeah, the stuff with EMMA is very much what’s happening right now.)
You just can’t make this shit up, I’m sobbing. Gosh I love the Persona 5 games so much lol
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Characters will make a very nuanced choice that makes sense for their story arc and internal conflict, and audience members will be like "is anyone else going to misconstrue this in the most black and white, bad faith manner possible?"
“hey did you kiss the brick before you threw it” “prev so true” “EXACTLY!!!” “I am always saying this” “op im gonna kill myself” “dont talk to me im unwell about this” “agskhksj!!!"
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It gets even funnier because she follows it up by saying „I only gave it to you because I didn‘t want Vexius to have it“ (denial) and then next episode has a crash out where she first aggressively tries to forget this ever happened (denial again) and then proceeds to hunt down Bloom to yell „Bloom! Fight me! 1 on 1!“ Like just ask her out on a date at this point 😭
