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he looks so stupid……….. i want to call him a nerd and shove him in a locker

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According to the CDC, in 10 percent of those drownings, the adult will actually watch the child do it, having no idea it is happening. Drowning does not look like drowning—Dr. Pia, in an article in the Coast Guard’s On Scene magazine, described the Instinctive Drowning Response like this:
“Except in rare circumstances, drowning people are physiologically unable to call out for help. The respiratory system was designed for breathing. Speech is the secondary or overlaid function. Breathing must be fulfilled before speech occurs.
Drowning people’s mouths alternately sink below and reappear above the surface of the water. The mouths of drowning people are not above the surface of the water long enough for them to exhale, inhale, and call out for help. When the drowning people’s mouths are above the surface, they exhale and inhale quickly as their mouths start to sink below the surface of the water.
Drowning people cannot wave for help. Nature instinctively forces them to extend their arms laterally and press down on the water’s surface. Pressing down on the surface of the water permits drowning people to leverage their bodies so they can lift their mouths out of the water to breathe.
Throughout the Instinctive Drowning Response, drowning people cannot voluntarily control their arm movements. Physiologically, drowning people who are struggling on the surface of the water cannot stop drowning and perform voluntary movements such as waving for help, moving toward a rescuer, or reaching out for a piece of rescue equipment.
From beginning to end of the Instinctive Drowning Response people’s bodies remain upright in the water, with no evidence of a supporting kick. Unless rescued by a trained lifeguard, these drowning people can only struggle on the surface of the water from 20 to 60 seconds before submersion occurs.”
This doesn’t mean that a person that is yelling for help and thrashing isn’t in real trouble—they are experiencing aquatic distress. Not always present before the Instinctive Drowning Response, aquatic distress doesn’t last long—but unlike true drowning, these victims can still assist in their own rescue. They can grab lifelines, throw rings, etc.
Look for these other signs of drowning when persons are in the water:
Head low in the water, mouth at water level
Head tilted back with mouth open
Eyes glassy and empty, unable to focus
Eyes closed
Hair over forehead or eyes
Not using legs—vertical
Hyperventilating or gasping
Trying to swim in a particular direction but not making headway
Trying to roll over on the back
Appear to be climbing an invisible ladder
So if a crew member falls overboard and everything looks OK—don’t be too sure. Sometimes the most common indication that someone is drowning is that they don’t look like they’re drowning. They may just look like they are treading water and looking up at the deck. One way to be sure? Ask them, “Are you all right?” If they can answer at all—they probably are. If they return a blank stare, you may have less than 30 seconds to get to them. And parents—children playing in the water make noise. When they get quiet, you get to them and find out why.
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Can I just say thank you to OP for putting such a detailed description on this?
I’ve been a lifeguard for 6 years now and of all the saves I’ve done, maybe two or three had people drowning in the stereotypical thrashing style. And even those, like the save I made last weekend, it was exactly like OP describes where the person’s head is going in and out of the water but it isn’t long enough to get any air. Mostly you recognize drowning by the look on someone’s face. If someone looks wide eyed and terrified or confused, chances are they’re drowning. That look of “oh shit” is pretty easily recognizable. And even if you can’t tell for sure: GO AFTER THEM ANYWAY. I’ve done “saves” where a kid was pretending to drown and I mistook it for real drowning, but that’s preferable to a kid ACTUALLY drowning.
Also please remember that even strong swimmers can drown if they have a medical emergency, get cramps, or get too tired. If your friend knows how to swim but they’re acting funny get them to land. And even if someone can respond when you ask them if they need help, if they say they do need help? GO HELP THEM.
However . If the victim is a stranger, I can’t recommend trying to get them. Lifeguards literally train to escape “attacks,” because people who are drowning can freak the fuck out and grab you and make YOU drown as well. If you do go in after someone, take hold of them from the back and talk to them the whole time. IF YOU ARE GRABBED: duck down into the water as low as you can get. The person is panicking and won’t want to go under water and should release you. Shove up at their hands and push them away from you as you duck under. Don’t die trying to save someone else.
Please guys, read and memorize this post. Not all places have lifeguards. Being able to recognize drowning is such an important skill to have and you can save someone’s life.
Just incase!
In a water park once, I was suddenly grabbed by a child and he dragged me under the water without warning. I was going to get angry with him when I resurfaced because I thought he was being an ass, until I looked at him go back in and out hyperventilating the entire time. I grabbed him under his arms and began trying to drag him out while screaming for the lifeguard.
When the lifeguard got us both out, a woman came running down and accused me of harming him and said he had been completely fine in the water. That there was no reason to drag him out of there. The lifeguard had to explain to her that her son had been drowning, to which her response was to say that she didn’t hear him call for help.
People seriously need to learn the signs.
http://spotthedrowningchild.com/ really demonstrates how easy it is to miss drowning
Mikey does not fuck around.
Although 2012 Shredder probably never felt a relation to the 2012 Boys especially since he knows that Splinter was never his biological brother.
It still wouldn't surprise me if every once and a while he’d lie awake at night staring at the ceiling just thinking:
“My nephews are fucking turtles”
There is a whole ass TMNT TV show where Casey is canonically a teenager in high school and yet he never bugs Donnie for tutoring or homework help. smh.
Nor does his parents or any family get screentime.
I’m sorry but how would it not be hilarious for him to have a parent and sibling (like Angel). Like think about their point of view. They:
Have an angsty teen.
He's been sneaking out at night.
He comes back home littered with bruises.
You start to get worried.
But somehow his grades have been massively improving.
You know he isn't beating up people to do his homework as 1) that's unlike him and 2) his test scores are improving as well.
You ask him what the hell he's been doing.
He replies: “I gotta really great tutor.”
His sister asks: “what does he beat you up everytime you get a wrong answer?”
And your son replies: “no….well…he does sometimes smack me with a stick but that's unrelated.”
How the fuck do you reply to that?
Like how do you not do this tmnt 2012. SMH. Waste of potential.

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how the fuck does that just “happen" to a pizza
you know how it is with pizza
Just a normal day for the 1987 turtles
This happened all the time for them
And they say 2012 mikey makes awful pizzas… It’s about even. Maybe one skewed towards inedibility allot of the time
Did I share that the writers room for 1987 had weed and were tasked with coming up with the absolute weirdest food combinations regardless of whether or not they should go on pizza? David Wise told me he was kind of proud.
Someone else probably has more inside information about 2012, but I do know they wanted to pay homage.
2012 also gave me a headcanon that Mikey in particular has an iron stomach and completely adaptable taste buds because he grew up starving in the sewers of a city with a fucking melting pot of food and trash.
He did eat a guy made of pizza.
That’s where i got my own iron stomach mikey head canons! I swear his pizza milkshake made me uneasy as a kid but i thought it was the thought that counts.
It also sadly helped give me an idea of Mikey being very hungry and needing more food then they got growing up(i think it came from someone pointing out how big mikeys shell looks on him compared to his brothers)
Didn’t know about that tidbit from the 1980s did i ever show you a video where people tried to make tmnt pizza combos like that work!
Oof no clue the 1987 TMNT writers smoked weed, but given all the weird food combos I’m inclined to believe it.
That being said…..
Remember that one tumblr post where we all agreed that bugs bunny would absolutely be in an anti-weed PSA just to use the money to buy more weed? Yeah. That’s what this meme is based on.
2012! Donnie, pausing mid-ramble of a long winded, Scientific explanation: Ah sorry, I must be talking your ear off.
1987! Raphael, voice dripping with contempt: oh no please continue, I just love hearing the sound of my own voice.
Wow he’s been through a lot. I guess I have to be the big brother for him too.
If they ever met, they would both think that they’ve adopted the other as their younger brother.
so I highly doubt this is what you were picturing but this sequence basically got psychically blasted in my brain and had to come out
OH MY GOD YOU MEANT LIKE WHEN A WINDOWS COMPUTER CRASHES!
I THOUGHT YOU WERE REFERRING TO THE LEO WINDOW TREATMENT AND I COULDN’T FIGURE OUT HOW THIS CONNECTED TO THE COMIC.
I can’t believe there are people who think Rise Donnie wouldn’t like/wouldn’t get along with 2012 Donnie.
Rise Donnie! You know, the turtle that famously craves gaining praise and understanding from others! The same turtle who puts science above all else! When he meets other scientists or, at the very least, other intelligent people he thinks will understand him he tends to put them on a pedestal. Meeting a literal different version of himself would be even worse.
I’m not even sure if 2012 Donnie’s obvious crush on 2012 April would even register in his head. That four-eyes would have some heavily rose tinted glasses basically super glued to his face should he ever meet another Donatello.
Additionally, I think people forget that 2012 Donnie basically operates like a search engine. You ask him a question and he spits out all the knowledge he has on the topic. It is so easy to get him going on information rants that can distract him from basically anything. Including his crush on April.
And there is no way Rise Donnie wouldn’t be rattling off questions and getting into long winded discussions with 2012 Donnie almost every minute. 2012 Donnie being with Rise Donnie would probably be so distracting he would momentarily forget his own crush.
So yeah. I’m pretty sure they’d get along swimmingly. They’d both be a bit too caught up with each other because they’d both have a: “hey someone here finally understands what I’m talking about all the time!” Attitude to really notice the other’s more….annoying quirks.
Rise Leo and 2012 Donnie on the other hand….
2003 TMNT meeting 2012 TMNT when the latter is in “white-eyes attack mode,” would be hilarious. Imagine meeting your counterparts, assuming y’all have the same white coverings over your masks, fighting alongside them, and the moment the fight is over, you turn around and see this:

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I haven’t watched “Donatello’s Duplicate” but this is how I imagine it goes.
One thing that always gets me about the turtles is that they must have such confusing instincts since they are reptiles yet are shown to have mammalian instincts.
Take the 2012 TMNT turtles for example:
They have the instinct to suckle. That’s a mammal instinct. Suckling allows newborn mammals (like humans) to latch and nurse off their mothers. Reptiles don’t have this instinct because….well, they don’t feed their young via milk-producing mammary glands.
Yet here we have two turtle tots who exhibit the suckling instinct.
It makes you really wonder how often the turtles experience conflicting instincts and how often that caused confusion growing up as a human-turtle hybrid. Especially since every iteration of TMNT was raised by a mammal.
Knowing the 2012 TMNT writers/creator and their love for horror, they probably wanted to squeeze in the infamous “Carrie” prom scene as a reference but couldn’t get covering 2012 April in blood past the censors.
If 2012 TMNT just made Donnie have a genuine obsession with humans and that be the source of his motivation to get to know April (the only human that spends time with him)
And then had him suddenly realize he had a crush on her after getting to know her then I think that would have “fixed” a lot of what went wrong with 2012 apriltello without changing much about Donnie himself.
I felt bad about not including 1987 Michelangelo in my last Mikey post.

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My girlfriend's very apt analysis:
My favorite part about that is that both 2012 and 1987 Mikeys would say that and genuinely think it's a good idea. 2003 Mikey would say it just because he heard the other two, knows it'll piss of Rise Mikey, and wants to do it for the bit. 🤣
2012 TMNT should have brought back the fear fungus in the fourth or fifth season. I want to see how their fears have changed since the beginning of the series.
I mean….i already got a theory on what Raph might see….
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To kinda add to this:
I think a good “fear” for Donnie would be either him being dissected and studied by humans especially after the clash they had with the mob (a sorta “the scientist becomes the experiment” thing)
OR another “fear” could be Donnie re-living being ripped apart by April again.
A good Mikey “fear” should be getting trapped in the Kraang Dimension again, but this time his brothers never show up and he has to survive all on his own for who knows how long.