Elsa❤️Anna

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I’ve been told, better late than never, took them 1 year.

And about the “they should be apart”...ok, let’s discuss this. Why?

Because it’s what happens in real life.

Wrong. If you want realism then unmarried sisters lived with their sisters in 1800, especially royalty. And if they want realism...they a princess wouldn’t marry a stable boy, a queen wouldn’t have magic, etc... Realism? Nope.

Because Elsa needs to be free.

She was free before (one random proof) , the only scene that hinted that she wanted to go outside and play with magic without hurting people was deleted (the one with Elsa and Anna on the balcony), and if we consider deleted scenes canon....then Northuldra asked Elsa to die for them, and Kristoff hates Arendelle and wants out. Do they want to consider them canon? Cause I’m in! ;) I have more to gain than lose from this!

Elsa felt overwhelmed as queen.

Quite possible. It’s normal. Everyone would.

Everyone, even Anna. Look at this:

Everyone focuses on what Elsa says, that she needs a break. She had people going at her talking about her dead parents all day...I would need a break too.

But what everyone always ignores, is ANNA’S REPLY:

“me too”.

She just looked at her sister deal with people, she didn’t even did the job, and she was overwhelmed.

So if Elsa needs a break once in a while...Anna does too. If this is a reason why Elsa shouldn’t be queen, then Anna shouldn’t either.

Codependency.

We debunked this so many times I’m getting tired of discussing it. People who have been apart for 13 years, and did eveything in their lives on their own, aren’t codependent. When KristenB mentioned it, she said she feels like that with her daughers and husband. Did she leave her daugthers and husband???? NO!!!!

She said she has the need to take care of people, and Anna does too, so her solution, when family isn’t close to her and she can take care of them, is to take “one step at the time”, and get through it.

She used codependency as Anna’s trait, dependence from “the feeling of taking care of somebody”, not of one person in particular!

It was to explain HOW she arrived to “the next right thing”, her mental process, from “omg i dont have some people here to care for”, ok “let’s do the next right thing and focus on small tasks to get through this”.

It’s a mental process, not a life-fix!!!!

Can’t pretend idiots to understand it, I get it, but after one year....Even my cat understood it!

So at least the “they’re not separated” farce is over.

The “they need to be apart” is simply aganist everything Frozen is. Sisters who have been apart for 13 years and just got together shouldn’t be separated, like every other true love couple.

I see several claims of late stating that us supporters are taking this out of proportion, and are acting as if Elsa and Anna are never gonna see one another again.

The ones taking everything out of proportion is those who support F2′s contrived and unnecessary ending. Why? One letter. Just one letter, and you take such nonsensical  “evidence” as Elsa and Anna seeing each other every second of the day. That is logical fallacy; your argument and just about everything in support of Frozen 2 falls short in the face of the overwhelming evidence that outright dismisses F2 canonical legitimacy.

If Elsa and Anna saw each other often, it doesn’t matter. Frozen revolves around them together, not each of them acting mutually exclusive with side characters that have no major role in Frozen. Fantasy is a world for escapism, not your cherry picked realism 

Picture this, you see an advertisement promoting a house near a cliff, you ask how is the foundation, they say extremely strong, you buy it knowing this, the next day you go out, come back, and the house slides off the cliff and is destroyed. Now the natural response of anybody is to go sue the sellers or the company that constructed the building. As this is your right to do so.

However in this odd and unrealistic world that you have conjured, follows a belief that because someone built it, you can’t criticize their work. So when you go, the whole city tells you that you are wrong, stop being mean, and you need to grow up since stuff happens…. or even more worse, they say the house is good, and you can’t see that or just use your imagination and picture the house there. The company attacks you as well for rightfully complaining.

This kind of logic is exactly what F2 stans do, everyday. 

People who consider elsanna a creepy and dirty secret reclaim ownership of a tag they need to praise a movie that separated elsanna.

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Makes sense.

I get it, elsanna is your second frozen ship, you use the tag to entertain yourself when you’re in the mood for your incest fetish, but people use it for different reasons.

So, maybe, instead of pretending others will bow to your needs, block me and everyone else who fills the tag with content you don’t appreciate and move on. Would be more mature than throwing a tantrum.

Why? Cause you can’t tell others what to do, entitled asshole.

Block a tag or an account if you don’t want to see and move on, it’s not that difficult.

You can’t tell others what to do, LITTLE FASCIST!

‘Creepy ship’ 🙄 maybe make a ‘creepy Elsanna’ tag and move there? Cause I don’t consider elsanna creepy considering it’s between fake characters, animation, drawings, not existing girls!

Frozen would not have been a very good movie if it ended this way

Frozen 2 ended this way

Part2: Oh, does that mean that Elsa would rather be a free person who just rides horses, plays with reindeer and salamanders, and looks at memories all days rather than having work?  F2 will just be a mess to me, it doesn't deserve to be in the Frozen franchise.😒

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Ok I don’t want to laugh at them so let’s be serious for a moment: I don’t understand how they can say Elsa belongs with a character she shared a totaly of 30 (?) words with. 52 seconds of screentime!

I mean, I know they are heteros and they have low standards considering they’re KA shippers, but 52 seconds where Elsa doesn’t show any interest for that stranger...and they say she belongs with her?

Seriously?

At this point I’ll say Kristoff belongs with Oaken since they had way more screentime and interaction! There’s even a love-hate relationship, you know?

Here, let me use a fanart i’ve seen on 4chan days ago. I didn’t made it, and I can’t credit cause the one who post it was an anon.

This is it. Ask the KIDS, the ones who buy merch, the target of the movie.

ELSA BELONGS TO ANNA.

Consdering it was this scum of the earth person going around other ppl’s askboxes asking them not to talk to the “toxic” side of fandom like me and Isa and not the other way around… I wonder what’s his definition of toxic. 

Must be fun being the friend of the fandom police lol 

I’m an Elsanna shipper through and through, I literally don’t care personally for other ships in Frozen. But there are people who ship Elsanna AND other ships, and you’re being very mean to them by saying we like to separate from them. Because most of us don’t. Great Elsanna fics came from people who also shipped other ships - and you can’t call them “fake” Elsanna shippers, as I’ve noticed you’ve been doing recently (maybe not you personally, but people in your “purity” circle.)

Now, other people lashing out at us for shipping Elsanna is fucked up. But us lashing out at other people JUST for shipping other ships is equally fucked up. And lashing out at viable Elsanna shippers who also dabble in any other ship is just straight up gatekeeping.

On the other hand, I kind of get the description of the chat to sort of filter out who comes in so you don’t have folks LIKE Sammy come in to cause trouble- unfortunately the gatekeeping feel doesnt come out of nowhere.

I agree that Sammy has done some bad stuff. I don’t aim to defend him for all of the DMing people and so on. But on a scale of bad to what the hell, the screenshotted message he posted is way over the WTH line.

Sammy DMing people is fucked up. I messaged him and berated him as soon as I learned that he was doing it, as he seems to have also done it to people on my server. I don’t deny this.

what were we supposed to do? stay in a place where ppl hate us and they sent messages to our friends telling them to NOT REBLOG US. lol not even “dont talk to them”, but also “dont reblog us!”

Jesus. Btw add bigfrozenfan to the list of people who did it, ok? just so we’re clear. the list is getting longer, it’s not one person. And yeah I saw the DMs they sent.

Remember when Josh Gad made a Valentine’s day post with elsanna and called them TRUE LOVE (cause they are in canon the only “frozen” true love)?

Because it is.

I don’t like how they changed the franchise and I tend to ignore it as much as possible.

I loved Elsa, the shy and introvert queen with magic, not the ethereal goddess. I loved Anna, the funny and exuberant princess, not the mature queen.

Then we had a period of disbelief, anger and bargaining.

Now we just accept that the franchise is dead.

Hey @beingpassionateabout​ , this idiot followed me until last month, and isn’t she/he the one who asked you to build bridges few weeks ago? lol

I guess they change their mind.

Must be a REAL FROZEN FAN, the one who loves elsanna until they realize dicks are better and now they don’t want the sisters together anymore.

What can I say?

I had 3000 followers before being part of this fandom, now I have 4500. I guess they don’t all agree with you, asshole.

But you can talk all you want, and your words have the same weight of the shit of my cat, (and the same smell), but I’ll play the game:

- YOU CAN LIKE FROZEN AND DISLIKE FROZEN 2 AND STILL BE A FAN, because this is NOT a sept, dickypickley doesn’t decide for you, so don’t worry, you are a frozen fan even if you hate kristanan and elsamaren! XD

- Elsa and Anna are fake, unfortunately. But if they were real they would hate to be separated, I’m sure of that, and would not care of you and me.

- I’m a Frozen fan and I LOATHE WITH ALL MY HEART KRISTOFF, ALL THE NATIVES WHO LOOK LIKE A SEPT READY TO MAKE A HUMAN SACRIFICE (ELSA! RUN!) AT THE FIRST SOLSTICE, AND I HATE THAT SMALL BRAIN OF KRISTOFF.

Hey Sami, if you read me I like you. Since you’re not a fake native tribe who lives in a cartoon.

And guess what? I’m not racist for disliking FAKE CHARACTERS, DRAWINGS, NOT EXISTENT PEOPLE who have been horribly copied by someone who is real.

Are sami even brown?? Oh wait. NO.

your racist theory is a bit weird, imo. But if you think I’m racist IDGAF, really, if you think you’re hurting me with your words you’re mistaken, i’m LAUGHING, and this is what you should do with your opinion and your post:

- you’re not the Frozen fandom dicky, otherwise I’d say the fandom would be in pretty bad shape, and yes, you are right, you can’t make me leave.

So hey, enjoy my post!

You call me “supremacist”, but the ONLY SUPREMACIST HERE IT’S YOU, CAUSE IT’S YOU WHO CAN’T STAND THE FACT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE HERE WITH OPINIONS THAT ARE DIFFERENT FROM YOURS AND THIS IS FASCISM.

YOU ARE FASCIST.

OR AN ENTITLED LITTLE DICKY WHO LIVES IN HER MOM’S BASEMENT AND IS THROWING A FIT AND EATING A CAN OF PRINGLES EVERYTIME SOMEONE ON THE INTERNET, STRANGERS, SAY THEY DON’T LIKE KRISTOFF.,

YOU’RE PATHETIC. AND SAD. AND WE LAUGH AT YOU.

Enjoy! :D

And AGAIN: GUESS WHO STARTED THE NEW DRAMA?

YOUUUUUU!! AGAIN!!!!!

It’s something the person who translated the movie to my language told me. They got a folder with infos about the movie and the bios of all the characters.

It was June of last year. The Ryder’ bio said he was 17, HM was 16, and they were Elsa and Anna’ cousins.

Ofc they changed the movie so much that we don’t know if it’s still valid, but I hope it is ;)

Anna: “I want to show you something really important”

“What does Anna want to show to her sister? Find out in the second part!”

The second part: she takes her to the bedroom.

She probably wants to show her how much she missed her since the last time she visited ;)

I’ve noticed the same thing, she seems nostalgic and I liked it.

LOL @ the “Dora the explorer” comment. lmao! That’s a nickname I’m gonna use from now on for Elsa! XD