sulove or just su , any/all and that includes neos
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i post abt what i like at the moment :)
I prefer things like incest and pedophilia not be correlated with the stuff I post, that includes fandom pairings like zucest, targcest, russingon, and things of the sort
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La Belle Dame Sans Merci (The Beautiful Lady Without Mercy), (Detail), (c. 1901), by Sir Frank Dicksee (English, 1853 – 1928), oil on canvas, 137.2 cm (54 in) x 188 cm (74 in), Bristol Museum & Art Gallery
Hi! Hopefully this is okay to ask (and feel free to ignore if you'd rather not answer this), but genuine question: I'm curious what you would personally consider to count as orientalist and "islamicate aestheticization" designs in the silm/Tolkien fandom? I'm a tolkien artist that's questioning if my design interpretations might fall into those categories, and if so I want to do better. Also absolutely no pressure but if you happen to have any vetted and good resources silm/tolkien artists can use to start to educate themselves better on this subject I'd love to get some reading recommendations. Thank you for your time (and again, feel free to ignore if this isn't something you want to answer!)
Hello! So if this is re: my tags on @nimphelos‘ excellent + correct post, I actually have a post that relates to ‘Islamicate’ aesthetics in Bollywood, in which I vaguely refer to similar aesthetics present in fanart (across fantasy, rather than Silm only for the most part)… where I explain a little the difference between Orientalism and Islamicate aesthetisation as a toothless ‘counter’ to the former, it’s the first part of the post IIRC there’s a reading list at the bottom. Also I am giggling because this came in at the same time as another as of yet unanswered ask, in which the person accuses me of hypocritically doing Orientalism with my own art, eg. my recent Fëanor, clearly unaware that those pieces are artworks for the Prayers!AU, which may be many things but is overall a counter to Islamophobia in fantasy fan culture 😭
Disclaimer because any time I mention this, people (not you!) have taken this as ‘so I am not allowed to draw brown people?’ or ‘so i can’t make my Sauron wear jhumkas?’ 🥺 or act like I’m talking about ‘cultural appropriation’ rather than overt Orientalism even when I have implied none of those things, in order to not take a closer look at the influences that shape their perspectives… I am not dissing or moralising, it’s more an extension of irl media discourse rather than a case for self censorship.
Anyway for what it’s worth, I really don’t think your art (which I really love fyi) is either of those things — not in the slightest. Islamicate and Orientalist framings aren’t design or architectural influences, and I think the variety of well thought out cultural references in Tolkien art is also a plus point. And just in general I also don’t think a thin veneer of Islamicate aesthetic is particularly harmful, it’s more when it becomes a route to performative diversity or as a cover for actual Islamophobia (Bollywood) and Orientalism (fantasy media).
Ok so the reason I agree with the post I reblogged isn’t because I think all those portrayals are blanket ‘offensive’ (although some are) but rather because the proliferation of "Islamicate" aesthetics in fantasy media is performative cultural extraction divorced from historical+religious context, framed in a ‘look, diversity!’ manner. Where it appropriates the visual language of Islamic art and architecture while erasing/demonising the actual peoples + civilisations that produced them. Which is to say it’s not one or the other but both existing in tandem that irritates me: gorgeous subtly Middle East ‘inspired’ architecture and costuming and character design for the heroes, while you have the villain looking like a jihadi twink or belly dancer. The Rings of Power show is (sorry guys) VERY bad for this with their Harad plot lmao.
Easentially I mean an artistic culture that treats Islamic and Middle Eastern visual culture as a costume shop for fantasy worldbuilding, available for use because it has been severed from the living communities that created and maintain these traditions. When references to actual Muslims (and I mean people racialised as Muslim, ie not just believers/nonbelievers) do appear in these narratives, ie orcs bearing scimitars or nameless, savage hordes, they are convenient and/or sexy antagonists whose defeat affirms the moral superiority of a implicitly white, Christian-coded heroic centre, even as the latter is bedecked in Islamicate attire (Gondor being a good example here).
Also, I am only mentioning Islamicate stuff here since that’s my background, but a similar thing has an antisemitic face as well, in which Jewish characters are given a similar treatment.
So much of fantasy media (and thus, fanart) is Orientalism in its most classical sense: the East is spectacle and threat, never subject. The irritating part is not that this misrepresents Islamic cultures, but that it forecloses the possibility of genuine engagement by transforming complex cultures with their own hierarchies of harm and power dynamics into either flattened signifiers of otherness OR as an easy route to sexy-code Sauron. The entire point of my Prayers AU was to trouble this (but I’ll yap more on this in the other question…)
It’s also that this aesthetic extraction is a parallel material extraction: same cultures whose visual traditions are mined for fantasy worldbuilding are the ones most subjected to imperial warfare/surveillance/dehumanisation in contemporary geopolitics. Orientalist imaginary = cultural infrastructure naturalising a civilisational hierarchy where the West produces subjects and meaning and the East provides only raw aesthetic material.
And finally, Tolkien fandom is one in which people are VERY conscious of canonical lore, many people have full on vocabs in Quenya and Sindarin etc, and thus it also feels a little eyetwitchy to see people capable of doing all of that turning Annatar into Jihadi John in a dress I guess.
Thank you for the question!!! Hope my answer made sense 😁
i did lowkey swear a terrible oath in rome or maybe ostia? and I think I swore it in the name of SM Maglor (<- gelateria we ended up calling this all week) and fingumption, the flop elf indil created that we used to embolden us to cross the road. i don't actually know what the oath was either and indil wouldn't swear it with me.
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i just made some bullshit #mybullshit #my28hourbullshit im never doing anything like this again
also big thank u to @peasant-player for helping me formulate some ideas for this!! esp for suggesting i originally color in greyscale that was a big fat help …
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If your requests are still open I'd love to see your take on Thuringwethil! 🖤
Love your art so much!
The game Lord of the rings online has an enemy type based on Thuringwethil. They are called Morroval and are tall hot vampire lady. I like to hc that Thuringwethil (and Lhaereth) were mothers of that race. Fallen lower Maiar that were corrupted by Morgoth when he arrived in Beleriand.
