CamrenGirlyForever

Step into my fictional tell-tale of what happened after the reunion events, some canon sprinkled into my fictional 5H and Camren story 👀

August 31st 2025, the four girls of Fifth Harmony stage a surprise reunion at the Jonas Brother event which erupts the entire world. A certain ex fifth member is currently on her own tour and the reunion floods her feed, will the surprise push Camila to finally reunite with the band and heal the open wounds that have lingered for the past near decade? Can both Lauren and Camila face one another again after everything that has been said and done? This goes Beyond the events of August 31st.

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Before Tumblr was full of so many things CAMREN but now not so much, I don't know what's happening but it's sad. Are you still in the submarine?👀

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Good Lord, Anon, that's a lot to unpack. I will start by saying, I agree with some, and disagree with some of what you had to say. Now, where to start...

You say it still messes with you, that everyone still portrays Camila as the victim. Are you going to deny that Camila WAS/IS victimized? The truth is, they were ALL victimized. They are ALL victims of an abusive Industry.

You said, "she sure as hell accepted this full of privileges position she was given since the beginning." You are either forgetting, or just plain don't care, that Fifth Harmony was a highly controlled entity. There was no choosing, or "accepting" privileges. They each did what they were told to do, said what they were told to say, and acted the way they were told to act. They were each given a role to play, and they were contractually obligated to play that role.

Yes, they were contractually obligated to act a certain way. There has been ample proof given, that none of the girls had any control over their PUBLIC image. Camila still has no control over her PUBLIC image, because there has been ample proof, she is still operating under her original contract.

Did Camila choose to sign that original contract? Yes, she did. Did she read that original contract? According to Lauren, probably not. None of them did. Did Camila agree to sign her solo contract? Yes, she did. But as I've explained before, if she wanted to continue in the music industry, she had no choice but to sign the solo contract they offered her. That solo contract is still connected to her original contract.

Camila is a human being. We ALL have positive and negative traits. Camila, all the ladies of 5H, you and me, we all have our positives and negatives. None of us are perfect.

You said, "one of her biggest negatives, is that she grew to love the spotlight." Why is that a negative? Hell, they ALL wanted the spotlight. Every person who gets into the Entertainment Industry, wants to get themselves in the spotlight. They all want to succeed in the field of their choice. To succeed, they have to garner the attention, and live in the "spotlight", in one way, or another.

Every one of them auditioned on a NATIONALLY TELEVISED talent show. They wouldn't have done that, if they didn't want to be noticed, and hopefully thrust into the spotlight of success. They ALL wanted that spotlight of success to be as solo artists. It's didn't quite work out that way. But, they ALL chose to try and achieve that spotlight as a group.

If one has been paying attention, from the beginning, Camila made no bones about her desired dream. She has stated from the beginning, she wanted to be a "pop star". Of course she wanted the spotlight. Lauren has said, from the beginning, she wanted to be "famous and travel the world". She wanted to be a famous star, in the spotlight.

Since you have chosen to compare Camila and Lauren, I'll answer to them. You seem to think there is this big chasm between the two. There really isn't. The only difference is the outcome, thus far. Lauren STILL wants the spotlight and fame, she just wants it on her terms. The problem is, it's damn near impossible to get that success on ones own terms, in an Industry that insists on dictating the terms.

That's a more recent decision on Lauren's part, by the way. You seem to be conveniently forgetting, that until 2019, Lauren also "chose" to play the game on THEIR terms. It was most likely, a two year PR contract, with a drug addicted gang-banger that turned her off of THE GAME. Lauren was pissed, that after all that, her debut album got shelved in 2019. I DON'T BLAME HER!!! I'm sure that also contributed to her decision, that THEIR TERMS suck ass.

Does Camila "crave" the big concerts, accolades, and people loving her? Yes, she does. They ALL do, or they wouldn't have signed solo contracts after putting 5H on hiatus. Instead, they would have said "this Industry sucks" and walked away. They didn't. They ALL craved more.

Lauren wants the same thing Camila has, just on her terms. Lauren doesn't "hate fame". She hates the negative side of fame. She hates having her life dictated by terms and schedules. She hates being told what to say, and how to act. She hates that fans get all up in her business.

She loves the nicer side of fame. She wants to see a lot of people come and see her perform. She loves to be on stage and see her fans singing and dancing to her music. She appreciates the accolades. She loves the love she gets from her fans. She would love even more, if her fans would multiply, and buy and stream the hell out of her music, instead of always bitching, telling her who she is, and how she should be, and getting all up in her damn business.

All one has to do, is listen to Lauren and the anger inside her about all this mess. She wants more. She wants more than a fucking "room full of people" enjoying her art. She wants a stadium full of people enjoying her art. WHO THE FUCK WOULDN'T. She just wants that stadium full of people to enjoy her art, and not expect more than that from her. I'm sure Camila would appreciate the same damn thing.

Unfortunately, that's simply not how the music industry is set up, these days. The difference is, Camila has accepted the fact, that she IS the product. Lauren has not. Lauren don't want to be a product. She wants her music/art to be the product.

I've said it a million times, the music industry hardly sells music, anymore. The music Industry sells the artist. The music has become a bi-product of the Artist. The Industry knows which artists will sell, and which ones won't. They know what image will sell, and which ones won't. Be the artist THEY want you to be, THEY'LL make you a star, and maybe even famous. If not, good luck.

Finally, you are completely right. There isn't a contract out there, that says someone can't come out of the closet. That would be blatant discrimination, and wouldn't pass the muster of the legal system. But, when you sign away control of your own image in a contract, that gives the contract holder the rights to dictate what your PUBLIC image will be. If they want you to have a straight PUBLIC image, then you'll have a straight PUBLIC image. If THEY want you to have a "good girl next door" image, then that's the PUBLIC image you'll have. You signed away your rights to be your authentic self, when you signed away the rights to control how others see you, period!!!

IN MY OPINION, Camila has come out of the closet so damn many times, I can't even count any more. She just has to do so, in a way that isn't obvious to those who have control over how others see her. Take her last video, for instance. When one listens to terms she chooses to use, and does a bit of research, you'll discover, what I believe is the hidden meaning behind that video. If I'm correct in MY THINKING, she has yet again, screamed her truth from the rooftops, for those who choose to listen, and understand.

As for the PR contracts...I was the first person to say, Camila made the choice to sign into those particular contracts. When one signs away control over their own public image, it also allows those in control to dictate that one MUST enter into PR contracts to help THEM present the PUBLIC image THEY want for that particular artist. The artist gets a say in which person that PR is with, simply because they HAVE to agree to sign the contract with that particular person.

So, did Camila agree to sign into this PR contract with the human hair ball? She absolutely did....And NO ONE should be surprised by it. It is quite clear that this shit has been in the making, since June/July of 2015. Hell, after that shit show with the British Bore, even the majority of the fandom was asking for it. The timing was right, and here we are.

Lastly, Camila is always stepping out of the closet, like I said above. IN MY OPINION, she wants her fans to know who she truly is, but that doesn't mean she wants to tell the world in definitive terms. Like Lauren, she wishes people could simply appreciate the music, and leave per private life out of it, but she also knows that's a pipe dream, and not reality.

She knows, the second she decides to speak her truth aloud, her career takes, yet another, blow. I also think, that's one of the reasons THEY, through the media, make sure her ignorant youth is continuously brought up. The more she has to fight to get through that hardship, the more she will want to keep her truth a secret. (yes, a definite manipulation tactic)

Camila could decide to say, fuck it all, and come out with her truth at any time, after her contract is up. She could also decide never to PUBLICLY come out. It's her choice, unless people in power decide to take that choice away from her.

Whitney Houston took her truth with her to the grave. Taylor lives with her truth, one foot in the closet, and one foot out. That's basically what Camila is doing now. IN MY OPINION. Her public foot is in the closet, and her music/art foot is out. If people cared more about the music/art, they would get the authentic truth. If you care more about her public image, you'll get exactly what THEY want her to be.

People try to tell you, and others this all the damn time. Take the recent interviews. If you notice, Camila, and others are always saying how vulnerable, honest, and authentic she is, IN HER ART. Her truth is in her craft, whether acting or music. Her PUBLIC image, is just that, an image to sell to the PUBLIC. Everyone in the Entertainment Industry has one...Even Lauren. Yes, she did play the game. She still has her toe in the game, she just isn't playing it at a high level, right now...and, unfortunately for her, it shows!!!

Guys, I can completely understand the way some of you have been personally offended, and down right hurt, by Lauren’s words. But, at the same time, one needs to understand, what was actually happening, and the timing of everything. Not only the time line of her story, but the timing of the podcast.

She was talking about her feelings, toward Camren shippers, back in 2013 and 2014. Lucy very well MAY have been the friend that helped Lauren realize she was into girls, but she WAS NOT the girl that helped her accept herself. If you pay attention, it became obvious, Lauren had grown more accepting of her sexuality, BEFORE Lucy came back into the picture.

Back in 2013/2014, Lauren was still fighting her true feelings. She was doing exactly what I said she would say…Just making out with her friend, because that what friends do. No big deal. Every “straight” girl does it, right? She was “justifying” her actions, because she couldn’t control her desires.

We all know, Lauren had a really bad bout, of internalized homophobia. She couldn’t control her desires, and she HATED herself for it. It was easier to BLAME Camren shippers, than herself. “We” are the ones who put those desires in her head, because she thought she was pretty damn good at hiding her truth. “We” were seeing something that wasn’t there, and putting thoughts in her head she didn’t want. It BECAME “our” fault, because she couldn’t BLAME herself.

The truth is, Lauren didn’t hate herself for liking girls. She hated herself, for not accepting that part of herself. She hated herself, for giving societal norms that much power over her. She hated herself, because she couldn’t control her desires, much less hide them. We had nothing to do with it, but like I said, it was easier to blame us, than to put blame where it belonged….homophobia, heteronormativity, and herself.

We are a part of her coming out story, but she can’t tell us the WHOLE truth. She had to give Lucy all the credit, (without even saying her name) because saying that we saw her truth and accepted her truth, before she was willing to accept it herself, would have given validation to Camren…Because it was Camren that made us see her truth, NOT Laucy!!!

She blamed us, for making her feel like a “predator”, for connecting her to someone that was “NOT queer” (lol). Honestly, that is the biggest load of bullshit, I’ve ever heard. Shippers don’t make predators, we make art. Be it written, or visual, we made some wonderful art….That Lauren obviously consumed herself, or she wouldn’t know so damn much about it.

IF, and it’s a big IF, Lauren EVER actually felt like a damn “predator”, it was her inability to take her eyes off of Camila, and particularly her ass, that would have made her feel that way, not us. (Camila enjoyed it, and stared right back. She loved Lauren’s ass, as well.)

Instead of BLAMING us, she should have been thanking us. WE are the ones who accepted her, and loved her, even though she couldn’t accept and love herself. But, like I said, she couldn’t do that, because it would have VALIDATED CAMREN.

What she should have done, is not mention Camila, at all. The fact she CHOSE to say Camila’s name, and NOT Lucy’s, says a lot about what that whole thing was meant to accomplish.

She gave Lucy all the wonderful credit, then said how damn TOXIC that “relationship” was. She even “explained” why her mother didn’t approve of Lucy. It was a load of shit, but needed to be “explained”. No mother in their right mind, that accepts lovingly her daughters sexuality, would disapprove of her “relationship” with a woman, then turn around and approve of her “relationship” with a gang-banger that smokes weed like a forest fire, and snorts coke like a vacuum.

The whole damn point of mentioning Camila, by name, and not the name of the woman who had supposedly made Lauren accept herself, was to get the media’s attention…and cross-promotion.

She didn’t mention Lucy’s name, because she didn’t want to give Lucy any media attention. Lucy became Lauren’s version of “that girl”. (which should tell us something) She mentioned Camila by name, so the media would jump all over it. And it did. It served it’s purpose. It cross-promoted BOTH of them. In turn, it also put a spotlight on Camila, and her current PR stunt. If Lauren says Camila “isn’t queer”, that must mean she’s “straight” (LOL). That must mean shmila is real, right? (LMFAO)

This whole thing is a big load of bullshit, but it had it’s purpose. That being said, I can understand why so many of you are upset, and hurt. It didn’t affect me that way, because I see it for what it is, PR. With this type of PR, it takes the focus off of any relationship between Lauren and Camila, and puts the blame on “us” for “destroying” their beautiful friendship. This same tactic has been used multiple times before. The best example of this is Louis and Harry. THEY blamed the shippers for destroying their wonderful friendship, as well. Like I said before, it’s a tried and true Industry tactic. They’ll keep using it, as long as it keeps working… just as they do PR “relationships”.