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Some thoughts on the idea that "Caine needed to be killed to learn his lesson in Episodes 8 & 9".
I think what Caine really needed then was spending some time away from the humans. Away from his self-imposed purpose to please them, to be responsible for them, and to do everything for them. Because when he was around humans he was always masking, always performing, always working—and he'd been burning himself out without realizing it.
In the Void, however, where there's no one there to judge him, Caine actually felt like he could just be himself. And we see that Caine as not The Ringmaster but himself is… surprisingly calm, introspective, smart, resourceful, and still powerfully motivated by his love for humans, which was what led to the Circus being created in the first place. Recalling that love made him want to learn more about the humans and go back to do right by them.
And on the humans' side? They needed to spend some time without Caine. There's the fact that Caine just tortured them and they didn't feel very safe with him, but also Episode 9 is the first time the humans are handed responsibility for their own lives in the Circus.
Episode 9 is a direct call back to the Pilot in plot: in both episodes, a crisis occurs in the Circus involving someone abstracting. Whereas in the Pilot the humans chose to helplessly wait for Caine's return like lost children, and let Caine unceremoniously dump Kaufmo into the cellar even though none of them liked how he dealt with Abstractions, in Episode 9 they took responsibility to rebuild the Circus themselves and created a more compassionate solution for Jax's abstraction, signifying their growth as a community. I think the humans came away from this experience having a better idea of what Caine had been doing for them all this time that they took for granted, and realizing that while they have no choice in being in the Circus, they still had more power and agency than they realized, and building a home where everyone could be happy is indeed possible.
Basically, both parties could use some breathing room to cool down and reflect, and I feel the way it happened in canon worked out for me.
Am I saddened that Caine only felt safe enough to be himself in his solitude in "death"? Absolutely! Am I disappointed there wasn't more conversations between Caine and the humans addressing their new-found understanding of each other? You bet! Do I think Caine being killed for the only time he openly expressed anger for his own treatment over the years would fuck him up and add another trauma to his growing list? Most certainly. But what I did get from the finale regarding Caine I find okay.
Caine is a modern rendering of the character Willy Loman in Death of a Salesman due to their shared fantasized competence at jobs they’re really not successful at. Caine represents who Willy could have been if the stubborn salesman had undergone healthy character development and acknowledged he was in the wrong career. In this essay I will
Despite not being a female character, blue (among us show) is actually a fairly good representation of someone who experiences misogyny, specifically the fetishization of women, peoples tendency to ignore women's achievements, and the common result of the patriarchy making women inclined to try extremely hard (often to their own detriment) to help others.
I dont want to cut it off mid-explination but parts of this explination include spoilers, so the entire explination is below.
The crewmates are genderless, so it doesnt really apply in the exact same way, but consider:
Blue is considered exceptionally attractive. Almost every time they are on screen, someone mentions that they find them hot.
2. The only characteristic that people actually appreciate about blue is their ability to do well working with others, which is ALWAYS mentioned alongside their attractiveness.
3. Whether or not blue is alright with the consistant fixation on them being attractive is not considered by a single character. Nobody asks how they feel about this. Even the few interactions that have someone treating them like a person, nobody is shown considering blue's perspective.
4. Blue doesnt react a single BIT to the way they are treated. Not once to they say a word. It's clear theyd have definitely heard people many times, yet they do not react. Ever. They dont say a word. Very clearly ignoring it and focusing on their efforts to help.
5. They work a job thats specifically assisting others. Their skills at their job are pretty much never acknowledged. Theyre the "hot doctor", not the "skilled doctor". Their care for others that extends to the career that they chose is even brushed off with humor in a scene: "wouldnt it technically be easier since youre only lifting half of them?". No one else says a word.
6. After they died, people STILL focused on their attractiveness. It was much less of a concious descision due to the lack of oxygen, but their attractiveness was mentioned BEFORE the fact they were DEAD. The crew focused on the fact they were HOT before the fact they were DEAD.
All of these things seeming like direct parallels to how women (especially women with jobs like theirs) are treated in society:
Women who are considered attractive have said attractiveness be heavily focused on
Women's skills are practically never focused on by people, only their attractiveness
Women's oppinions on how often others express finding them attractive is always brushed off
With how often women's feelings are disregarded, a lot of them take to just not acknowledging it when it happens.
When women work in fields like the medical field, its often found that patients dont consider them skilled, yet some of them dont care because of how they find that woman attractive.
Women's attractiveness always comes before their humanity. People will look at a corpse and claim "we lost a baddie".
So basically blue experiences the crewmate equivelant of misogyny even tho their species is plantae and doesnt have individual genders
People underestimate Orange too much. They threw in the towel to convince everyone there were no imposters onboard anymore. By saying they were, indeed, going to kill more crewmates, then everyone would be convinced for sure that there were no more impostors. So then, a party was thrown, where Green almost killed every single one of them in one fell swoop. If not for Heracles, brought illegally onto the Skeld so no one knew about it, then Green would've used the party to kill literally everyone via oxygen deprivation. Its death told Purple something was terribly wrong.
People have played like this in the game too, where, when they get voted out, they go "yeah I'm the only one impostor". Ofc, I think Orange definitely did not mean to get caught, but giving up almost DID work. The kill timing and killing in front of everyone was dumb, but lowering everyone's guard for Green was very smart.
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I really love the final voting with Red as the tiebreaker. Because it really had to make Red choose. The sycophantic yes-man who agrees with everything they say and makes them feel good about themselves and every decision they make, who never challenges Red or makes them reflect on themself—
— or someone who knows them. Someone who knows the ugliest, most selfish, most cowardly parts of Red, who forces Red to come to terms with the worst parts of themself, who dares Red to be fucking better because it's the right thing to do and they actually believe Red is capable of doing it, should be capable of doing it. Someone who cared about Red so much that that trust, belief, and betrayal almost ruined their life.
you can really tell with the new among us show that owen is running free in the paddocks of adult animation and taking every opportunity to do everything cartoon network pushed back against with infinity train. couldn't have anything beyond the slighest hint of characters being queer? fuck you, every character in his new show is nonbinary and not a single gendered pronoun is ever used. show got cancelled for being too dark and violent? fuck you, there is now at least one gory death in almost every episode. i couldn't be happier for him
listen bro. i really really like the Blue knows about getting objectified and they compensate for it and they’re slightly annoyed about it Posts i really do!!
but a lot of what cements their hotness for most of the crew ARE their actions. blue expressing interest and empathy and the same values as the crew is finally what makes them swoon (and then afterwards they refrain from talking about it, but tbh i assumed it was for the gag bc the among us show is a comedy.
like. only green, white, and orange(? as an imposter, they also started swooning more after blue showed compassion for their work By doing mira paperwork before being reminded Whoops BUT it’s implied they knew each other before as well so.) have swooned before. im pretty sure the only crewmates who didn’t explicitly like them for their personality at some point are green, white, and red(!! who i can’t recall blushing around them at all??) (and brown and yellow, but tbh they were so qpr about each other that im not rlly surprised)
there is merit to the whole headcanon obviously. but it’s mischaracterization to assume that the crew ONLY connects to them for their Hotness. and a lot of the time, posts like these only frame this archetype for blime… like ig bro
Interesting thing I noticed: if you watch Blues actions, you’ll notice that they only ever participate in things when they might be needed for something. With the haul breach, they only left medbay because everyone was in danger. They didn’t come to the pizza party, but showed up the second everyone started panicking over whites death. Every other time they’re alive, people are interacting with them because those people came to medbay cause they need them for something be it the tour or the corpse.
Blue is quite literally never sought out nor do they go out unless they are needed for help. For as much as the crew seems to adore them, the only times we see anyone visit them in medbay is when they are mandated to for the scans. Never for fun or pleasure or just to chat. It’s always when something is needed
Still though that’s a point in of itself. Blue blends into the background until they’re needed to help someone else. They only stand out when they are helping others and are either missing or not really noticed otherwise. We get to see snippets of basically everyone else talk at least once during the party, except for black and blue. But while black gets expanded on more personally in the future blue never gets that chance
So MIRA was definitely planning on having the Skeld crew use White as another unpaid intern, right? Like. Okay there isn't a lot of evidence, but between the fact that Orange was clearly treating both Green AND White like interns during the tour(never pointing out things that would be fun for a vacation specifically, always saying "your internship" instead of "your stay", that kinda thing) and the fact that we KNOW MIRA would be willing to do that kind of unethical trickery based off of. Everything else we've seen from them. I don't think it's that crazy to assume White would've been treated like a second unpaid intern if they had lived longer than the first episode. And GOD I would have loved to see that play out.
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Oh boy I've really truly been indoctrinated haven't I.
Anyway I fucking love how the Among Us Show treats the show both like a game and like an actual show. (A rant)
Spoilers ahead obviously.
I love how at least some of the kills are reminiscent of how you actually kill people in the game, and I love how REAL and HUMAN the reactions are to seeing the first body and how everyone seems to slowly be desensitized but also the way Red tries to deny the fact that there's an alien murderer aboard to keep everyone calm.
I love how some of the kills parallel eachother in their locations but also imitate how an actual match would go and mimic when and how really good(or really bad) kills would happen and how, and I really like that they showed green having alibies the whole time to make them not look suspicious while their parasite went to deal with some kills.
I love how Black's death was executed, literally. Vent kills are very common, and I love how that kill in particular was what made Red and Purple begin to turn on eachother out of panic. I love that the panic felt REAL, it felt like the two were out of options, utterly confused, and probably scared too. I love how that impacted the pointing of their fingers, and I love how Green took advantage of that to try and split them apart so they could finish the game.
I love the way that every Skeld emergency was handled, I love that the lack of oxygen ACTUALLY HAD AN AFFECT ON THE CREW and how they used what I hope is an actual medical term to describe it, I also love how they gave certain amounts of time to fix the issues like in the real game but also likely how it would work in real life.
I loved Black and Brown's reactions to their "people" dying. Black didn't want to admit that they liked Cyan even a bit, but when faced with their body in storage they actually became curious and snooped through their journal, not only leading them to finding out what was going on but also leading them to realize they missed Cyan so much it hurt. Black also APOLOGIZED to Cyan's body, because they realized how much of a dick they were actually being too late, and wondered if that apology had been said sooner if Cyan would have still lived. They blamed themself FULLY, and in that blame, their anger toward Cyan turned into guilt toward themself that ultimately allowed Black to have even a small amount of closure before they died.
Yellow was Brown's best friend. Their soulmate and closest partner in the kitchen. So when they were ejected and Brown not only blamed the whole crew for being wrong, but also themself, what did they do? They went into the kitchen and cooked a pizza. The thing they always did with Yellow. And, because they wanted to honor Yellow's wish, they tried the salted pizza, and enjoyed every second of it before they died. Oh, not to mention, WHEN they died, they didn't even fight back. They didn't fight back because they knew they were going to see their partner again. They were atoning.
The grief destroyed these two in really different ways, and I LOVE how the show handled it. Seriously. It was never a joke. It was never a gag, or something played off for entertainment value. It was raw, it was real, and it felt like something a human would actually do in both cases.
I loved the hints that Green and Orange were parasites from the start. The "blink and you'll miss it" frames of the parasite jumping behind the same box that Green and Orange slid behind, the offhanded comments the two made trying to act normal, the way that they both began to hate salt(and also I love how that detail was the way that Purple figured out who was the imposter both times), the way that Green's parasite was actually seen slipping through vents, the way the two kind of.. lost their personalities? Just all of it was great.
The FORESHADOWING IN THIS SHOW. Especially one I see NO ONE talking about, which is the zoom in on Brown cutting the pizza, which may have been a bad bit of foreshadowing because what it foreshadowed happened so quick after, but it's still really good. I also like the foreshadowing of the first two people who died being in the same room with Green in the intro, along with Orange still interacting with Lime's bits in the intro because of how they were trying to act like everything was normal, I love how Purple and Red were basically front and center of the intro while Green was off to one side trying to look non threatening or unimportant, I love how Lime's gun was dismissed as crazy until the very end which is a good way to show how stereotypes stick around even in death.
I loved seeing how the fear and confusion changed the crew, the way that some became vulnerable and others became closed off, the way that some stuck to others out of fear and others stayed away from groups out of the same fear, god I loved it all.
I loved how some of the stereotypes were implemented. Like how everyone swooned over Blue even after they died and Blue's refusal to acknowledge it which was a good way of showing it actually affecting them but then being used to it by this point. I love how everyone dismissed Lime as crazy even when they were right and probably freaking out as much as a normal person should've been, I love how they actually tried to protect themself and got really mad when it failed just before their death. I love Black's stereotypical "emo edgy" personality, and how it actually affected what they did and how they interacted with people under stress.
Okay I need to go to bed so I'm gonna stop yapping. I may update or reblog this post with more though because I have more points
I imagine you as being no older than 25, but your personal chronology doesn’t really make this possible or realistic. Can you do something about this?
The curse of having been a kid who was seen as "mature for his age" because he was just really good at copying the register of the adults around him is that you're basically stuck sounding ambiguously twentysomething forever.
Prokopetz here has previously made reference to having personal memories of the mid-90s. If we assume he was five years old in 1995, that would probably make him 36 now (in 2026).
Frankly I'm treating that as a lower bound, but that's also as far as I'm going to push it.
I rewatched the series and I decided I would be soooooo fucking mad if I were Green. They played a genuinely perfect imposter game WHILE carrying the entire team alone because they were paired with the most useless possible imposter partner, who got exactly one kill (OF the guy Green was successfully deflecting sus on) which was witnessed by, to quote, God and everyone, making Green partnerless for no net gain.
In fact I only started sussing Green mid-series BECAUSE they were playing such a perfect imposter game, such that it would be the most interesting narrative choice for it to be them. Without metagaming this, IN context, Green should never have lost the vote against Purple. Green had Purple dead-to-rights and Purple had nothing, and it was only because the consistently-destructive ex-situationship dumpster-fire disaster dynamic (affectionate) between Purple and Red aligned in single-braincell energy just long enough to accuse Green for no TRUE fumble of their own.
I'd be so mad. I'd be soooo mad. Carried the whole game on their WORM back. Elijah Wood you earned that villain monologue so fucking much.
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realizing many people don't know about infinity train creator owen dennis' among us show from years ago, which has been trapped in unreleased limbo all this time and was just dumped on streaming this morning with no advertisement. they don't even know about its weirdly stacked cast