Joker x Harley

Aren’t they the cutest?

~Batman Ninja 2018

Joker: Wait...What the hell was that?

Harley: Affection?

Joker: Disgusting.

Joker: ...

*Warning* If you are a die-hard Margot Robbie fan or a (Margot’s version) Harley Quinn fan you will probably get mad. (Probably only if you’re one of the immature ones)

To start off, I just wanna say that Arleen Sorkin’s Harley (BTAS version) is my favorite and always will be.

And also a disclaimer: I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AGAINST MARGOT ROBBIE. I AM NOT A HATER. DON’T COME AT ME FOR THIS MESS. IF YA WANNA CHAT AND POLITELY DISAGREE THAT’S FINE BUT I WILL NOT TOLERATE ANY HATE.

Birds of Prey

Can we all get on the same page when I say that Harley Quinn was NEVER part of Birds of Prey?!

Seriously, Birds of Prey consisted of Oracle/Batgirl(Barbara Gordon), Black Canary(Dinah Lance), and the Huntress(Helena Bertinelli).

But Harley is part of the Gotham City Sirens!

SO WHY THE HELL IS SHE HERE?! THERE’S NO LOGICAL EXPLANATION FOR HER TO BE JOINING A HERO TEAM.

If Margot wanted a Harley movie with Harley getting away from the Joker, then the easiest, most logical way for her to go was the Gotham City Sirens.

And if Harley were to replace anyone, it definitely shouldn’t be Batgirl/Oracle!!! She’s the one who literally put the group together!

Why do we keep forgetting that Harley is a villain and not a hero?

Seriously, in the Suicide Squad movie she was literally talking about how she wanted to pry someone’s mind open and spit in it. She even said stuff like, “We’re bad guys, it’s what we do.”

So suddenly Joker is playing the abusive asshole in the one-sided abusive relationship… great.

That makes no sense because in SS he didn’t seem abusive at all. Now, sure, he was pretty abusive putting the rods on her head and stuff, but after he fell in love, didn’t really seem that way anymore.

I mean, he was pretty broken without her.

And the times he was with her, he seemed to love her more than anything. His entire part in the SS movie was literally about him saving her.

But now Harley’s a helpless victim to keep Margot and the Harlivy shippers happy… sure.

This is extremely biased but, Anthony Carrigan is and will always be my only Zsasz.

Overall, I feel like this movie was made to be one for all the feminists (and not the 'men and women should be seen as equals’ feminists, but the 'WOMEN ARE MORE POWERFUL THAN MEN AND ALL MEN SHOULD JUST DIE! A MAN CAN’T DO ANYTHING FOR ME! WHOOOOO! GIRL POWER TO THE EXTREME!!!’ feminists)

I mean, that’s all any new Harley has become now, hasn’t it?

Anyway, I’m not even mad that Harley isn’t with the Joker in this.

The problem starts when everyone’s all like 'OMG MY INDEPENDENT GIRL IS FINALLY GETTING OUT OF THIS TERRIBLE RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS ABUSIVE CREEP WHO ONLY KEEPS HER AROUND TO USE HER AS A PUNCHING BAG!!! I’M SO PROUD OF MY BEAUTIFUL GIRL WHO WAS SO INNOCENT UNTIL THE JOKER GOT HIS GREASY HANDS ON HER!!! YAASSS QUEEN!!!’

Okay, 1. Harley has almost never been independent. Whether she’s with the Joker or Ivy, she’s always the sidekick. And when she is on her own, she’s most likely OOC.

2. Harley and Joker never had a terrible/unenjoyable relationship. Unhealthy? Yes. Abusive? Yes, on both sides. Not ideal? Definitely. But terrible and neither one of them enjoy it? Definite no.

3. Joker does not keep her around as a punching bag. Read a comic book guys (not the new 52).

Margot Robbie’s Harley Quinn

I understand and am not against the fact that actors can make different versions of a character. I mean, my favorite character is the Joker and look at how many versions there are of him!

But it seems like Margot Robbie doesn’t really understand Harley as a character.

It’s like she has the voice down but what else really?

For the record, I’m not a SS hater. I didn’t love it, but I didn’t hate it. I thought it was just okay.

Anyway, to be a good actor, when given a character, you have to deal with every aspect of the character, EVEN THE PARTS YOU DON’T LIKE!!!

So why is it that Margot Robbie can just tell the writers that she doesn’t like Harley’s relationship with the Joker, one that Harley was incredibly devoted to in this version, and they just simply change it for her?!

And from what we saw in SS, they’re relationship in it wasn’t abusive (after they got together). And he certainly wasn’t the version of the joker that’s 'using her and couldn’t care less about her’ because the ENTIRE MOVIE was based on him trying to save her! He was all depressed without her!

Margot, please show me how that is abusive and not caring?!

And honestly, it’s okay that Harley is leaving him. And it’s more than okay that she might go to Ivy. She does this all the time.

But if we’re gonna do this whole thing where she’s not at least a little broken up about leaving him or is eventually gonna come back to him, then it’s an unrealistic Harley.

Seriously, she always comes back, even if it’s to kill him.

You all know the story…

A smart young doctor named Harleen Quinzel got her first patient in Arkham Asylum, and evil and cunning the Joker seduced a poor naive girl and turn her into his lover and partner in crime… Right?

WRONG!

First of all, Harleen Quinzel had sex with teachers for her good grades in med school.

Second, she committed her first murder without the Joker’s influence (she haven’t meet the Joker yet). Her tears here is false, by the way, and she manipulated him.

After that, she blackmailed her teacher to gain access to the Joker.

She was never his treating psychiatrist - just a crazy fangirl who wanted to get into his pants. This is first sentence the Joker ever told her. “Are you flirting with me, Doc?”

Because she IS flirting with him. And even more - she sits on the table, trying to seduce him.

She even kisses him - her patient, while he was in handcuffs - on their therapy session. Such a professionalism!

The Joker, of course, didn’t mind, he knew that he could use the girl to escape. For this he could tolerate a few kisses. Shortly after, Akrham Asylum’s autorities found out about her personal connection with the patient, whom she constantly helped to escape.

So this was the end of Harleen Quinzel, and the Joker very quickly forgot about this young female doctor. A few months later she returned as Harley Quinn, but that’s a different story.

HQ: emmaxmoody (instagram)

Photo: Brian Rasmussen

Dress: Phoenix Cardinal

Makeup: Jakilyn Boles

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I like their relationship because I see them as this twisted clownish super villain version of Bonnie And Clyde. Their dynamic, their chemistry and their story is compelling and I just love them together. While the abuse does make me uncomfortable. It’s more than one sided abuse as so many people diminish it as.