Donovan Galpin when he catch Wednesday breaking into his house to steal Tyler's clothes, and they start working together to bring down LOIS:
Grief Woe fills the room up of my absent child,
Lies in his bed, walks up and down with me,
Puts on his pretty looks, repeats his words
Remembers me of all his gracious parts,
Stuffs out his vacant garments with his form,
Then, have I reason to be fond of grief woe?
(Original quote from 'King John' by William Shakespeare - I keep thinking of it whenever imagining post-S1 Donovan Galpin)
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[S3 Wednesday adventuring in France, unexpectedly runs into Tyler]
Tyler: What does it feel like?
Wednesday: What does what feel like?
Tyler: Toulouse...
Me: weird. How does Xavier getting arrested has anything to do with her trusting Tyler? She's always suspected Xavier and never showed any mistrust towards Tyler. (I still think this speech only makes sense in hindsight, and was a way for them to shoehorn in a fake love-triangle where they wanted to hint Wednesday was torn between Tyler and Xavier)
Tyler: "Does that mean you're ready to be more than friends?"
Me: not sure how that speech led to this, but I don't blame him for driving the conversation to what he's interested in.
Wednesday: *walks towards him like she's leading a procession or something (I don't know what it's called but the way she steps to him in this scene is deliberate and specific - it's not how people normally walk)
Wednesday: *kisses Tyler on the lips*
Me: omg, I did not think she would kiss him! and on the lips too! wow.
Tyler: *reciprocates delicately*
*twenty seconds of bliss* (before everything goes wrong)
Me: that's so... sweet. This is the best kissing scene I've seen since... actually, I this is probably my favorite kissing scene ever.
Wednesday: *has the vision*
Me: oh, so he is the hyde! I wonder who is his master? (I was pretty sure Kinbott wasn't laurel gates for the same reason I was sure Xavier wasn't the Hyde - they were both very obvious red herrings)
Wednesday: *runs out* "...I think I have a type."
Me: why is she running out? she should find who the master is! oh. yeah. safety reasons. I guess it makes sense.
...
Wednesday and Tyler at the forest.
Tyler: "so... is this a date?"
Wednesday: "it's a surprise"
Tyler: *confidently walks towards Wednesday, as if to kiss her*
Wednesday: *walks away*
Me: oh no... this doesn't look good. Surely she can't be angry at him? she saw Faulkner's journal! He had no choice! I doubt he even knows he's the Hyde!
Wednesday: *gives her speech, Nightshades appear*
Me: I hate this.
...
Wednesday and the Nightshades inside Xavier's shed.
Wednesday: *tortures Tyler*
Me: I get she's angry and upset at being fooled, but she knows how Hydes work, doesn't she? What was the point of reading Faulkner's journal?
Wednesday: "why did you kill Kinbott?"
Tyler: *vehemently denies being the Hyde*
Me: This will only infuriate her further, but does she seriously expect him to confess everything to her under torture?
Me: oh. she thinks his master is dead and he's doing all this by himself and that he's making fun of her by continuing to lie to her. my poor babies...
...
The police station scene.
Tyler: "What does it feel like... to lose?"
Me: WHAAT? FUCK! I thought this was a Fight Club situation, that he had no idea about his alter-ego! Apparently it's a Primal Fear situation!
Tyler: "It was delicious"
Me: Hot but seriously, why does this keep happening to me? This isn't jerin-coded at all! It's reylo-coded! (I'd shipped both) This time, I didn't choose the enemies-to-lovers ship, the enemies-to-lovers ship (or whatever this is) found me, somehow! I hate my life!
Tyler: *walks away from Wednesday*
Me: Oh wow. That expression with the tear in his eye? Amazing acting. And poor Wednesday. He's the one person she really trusted.
...
Wednesday confronts Thornhill
Me: oh no. I hate this. Tyler deserves healing and redemption (actual redemption, not sacrifice) but I know how Hollywood works. (Could write a whole essay on that topic, but I'm too depressed for that).
...
Crypt scene with Wednesday hanging from chains.
Tyler: "Kind of a deja vu thing..."
Me: I can't honestly blame him. She didn't even bother to hear his side of things before torturing him. But seriously, there goes any hope I had of his redemption. (I half expected him to turn on Gates to help Wednesday)
...
Forest encounter
Tyler: "You're like a cockroach"
Wednesday: "Flattery will get you nowhere"
Me: is she flirting with him?
The lapel grab
Me: Are they going to kiss?
The Hyde comes out to play.
Me: *screams internally* Why why why why why do I have to get emotionally attached to fictional characters? What did I expect to happen?
...
Donovan shoots Tyler
Me: This is so sad.
...
Xavier: *gives Wednesday a phone*
Me: I hate him even more now. And a phone? It's such a boyfriend gift. Also Wednesday with an iphone feels so wrong. I guess they're happy they can kickstart their planned romance in next season. I'm so done with this show.
...
Tyler in the van to Willow Hill.
Me: oh, he survived then. And they're clearly angling for a second season, but they can't make me watch it. I'm more heartbroken than curious.
---
[The next two years] Me: *Manages to keep Wednesday tv show completely out of my mind and even all my social media feeds. Didn't even hear Xavier was written off the show.*
[Fall 2025] Season 2 drops.
Me: I guess I will see what they're up to... just checking... I'm sure I have no interest in any of the characters because I've completely given up on the show.
S2 Part 1.
Me: So... it looks like she is still really angry at Tyler. At least Xavier is gone and she put the phone where it belongs in the acid bath. I still hate this show and I feel the characters are all worse than in S1 (except for Uncle Fester - Go Felouise!). But I'm interested to know what happens with the LOIS stuff next so I will watch part 2.
S2 Part 2.
The hospital scene, the chapel scene, the burial scene, and the axe scene happen.
Me: *Gets even more emotionally attached to weyler.*
Fester: *notices Tyler walking towards them. prepares to put him in a Romanian Sleeper Hold*
Wednesday: "Relax. He is not interested in you."
Me: yeah. she knows he's only interested in her.
Tyler: "Made you a quad. On the house."
Me: He totally wanted to find out who is this odd bald character she's having a serious conversation with. Also I find it romantic that he gets her free quads. Especially when he knows she doesn't need to save money.
Wednesday: *introduces Tyler to Fester*
Me: wow. She is almost happy to introduce them to each other! And Tyler took that electric shake hand really well. And Wednesday is actually smiling at his reaction!
Tyler: *sits down next to Wednesday*
Me: wow she looks flustered that he sat down next to her. Something tells me she isn't used to having people sit that close to her so naturally. And she isn't annoyed at his proximity! (unlike with Xavier in the botany class)
Wednesday: *reminds Tyler of Donovan's ban*
Me: Since when did she start caring about Donovan's opinions? Oh, she must be feeling guilty about causing him to get injured. Is that what she's thinking of while she's checking him out? The wounds just underneath his shirt?
Tyler: "My dad's not here and I'm on a break" *puts his arm on the seat behind Wednesday.*
Me: lol, he's really trying to look more in control of his life situation than he actually is.
Donovan: *enters*
Me: speak of the devil. can't this man ever let them have a quiet moment?
Tyler: *preemptively defends Wednesday before his dad can get a word in*
Me: cute. And look at her standing so meek. You know she's probably plotting Donovan's downfall.
Donovan: "why waste my breath" *leaves.*
Me: that's right. I'm glad you accepted that your son has fallen head over heels for that girl and there's nothing you can do about it.
Tyler (to Wednesday): "so about our date..."
Me: omg they're actually going on a date? I can't believe this.
...
The crypt date.
Tyler with the black flower and a lantern.
Me: ooh. this is so romantic.
Tyler: "you have to close your eyes."
Me: that's so silly. no way she's gonna do that. closing your eyes around someone requires a good amount of trust, and Wednesday doesn't seem like someone who'd be comfortable with that.
Wednesday: *closes her eyes, lets Tyler lead her into the crypt*
Me: wow. she said it's not a date but she must like him too, if she's letting him do all this.
Tyler: "what? no one's ever taken you on a picnic inside a crypt before?"
Me: lol. smooth but don't get too overconfident, boyo.
Tyler: "how do you feel about scary movies?"
Me: it's a movie date. with a projector. because she hates technology. not a fan of fairy lights myself, but can't deny he's really gone above and beyond preparing this date. Although, if he thinks Wednesday will find any movie scary...
*Legally Blonde starts playing*
Me: omfg. this guy. he knows her so well.
Wednesday: *watches the movie with a properly horrified expression*
Tyler: *watches Wednesday with a big smile on his face*
Me: he got black and white popcorn buckets! where do you even buy them? did he paint regular red stripes black? I wouldn't put it past him.
*after the movie*
Tyler: "I want us to be more than friends."
Me: oh no. I think he jumped the gun a little. I don't think she's ready for that.
Wednesday: *Not friend material speech*
me: hmm... this sounds a lot like 'be careful what you wish for you might get it', not a rejection.
*Probably. Definitely.*
Tyler: *leans in to kiss Wednesday*
Wednesday: *leans towards him in response*
Me: omg. She is reciprocating his feelings!
Jericho PD barges in to the crypt, led by none other than Galpin Sr.
Me: How does he manage to keep doing this? Also, this is so awkward for Tyler. Not the kiss, that's only natural. But all the effort he put into the date - the candles and stuff... if a family member caught me in this situation I'd be dying from embarrassment.
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Wednesday and family in front of the police station (or is it the city hall?)
Donovan (to Gomez): "your daughter and my son have become... close"
Me: wow. that sounds like he approves of their relationship? Or at least accepted it? Wednesday with a sheriff as her fil - this has so much potential.
...
Tyler: *Happy Birthday latte art*
Me: cringe. you should know she only drinks espresso.
Tyler: "I know you're a quad kind of girl..."
Me: I spoke too soon. of course he knows what she likes, but did that anyway to make a sweet gesture. He's such a golden retriever.
Wednesday: "Was there anyone Thing didn't tell?"
Tyler: "Who do you think delivered the cake?"
Me: what??? He delivered the cake? And they didn't invite him to the party? They all saw her dancing with him at the Rave'N. This is criminal. Xavier I understand, but Thing and Enid too? Smh. No wonder the normie kids dislike Nevermore kids.
Wednesday: *looks thoughtful, doesn't say anything*
Me: Is it just me or does she look wistful?
...
Tyler: "If I asked you out on a non-birthday, song-free dinner, would that be something you'd be interested in?"
Me: please say yes.
Wednesday: *goes on about a busy schedule*
Me: she didn't say no :)
...
Bianca: "Aren't you her boyfriend?"
Me: I love Bianca. Asking the relevant questions.
Tyler: "Definitely not."
Me: the bitterness in his voice... He's down bad for her X)
...
Wednesday: *calls Tyler from the payphone*
Tyler: *over the moon*
Donovan: "Ty, bud, what did I tell you?"
Me: what?? I thought you approved of her! Is this because of the Mayor's death? Even you can't blame Wednesday for that!
Donovan: "...I know the type."
Tyler: "Is that supposed to be about mom?"
Me: wow. That's his frame of reference for his relationship with Wednesday? Oh boy. He's completely gone for her.
...
Gates mansion incident.
Wednesday: "We must go back for Tyler!"
Me: she really cares about him!
Xavier: *appears suspiciously out of nowhere*
Me: The most obvious red herring ever. Why did it have to be him?
...
*Wednesday tends to Tyler's wounds*
Me: *blinks* is this actually happening? This is the stuff fanfics are made of.
My brain: *completely forgets that anytime a character barely survives an attack in the middle of a murder mystery, the survivor is usually also the perpetrator*
Tyler: "Thanks, doc."
Wednesday: *deadpan stare*
Xavier: *seething with jealousy*
Me: ugh why does every Wednesday/Tyler moment be interspersed with camera panning to Xavier's pouty face? They did this with the Rave'N, too. (Seriously, is there an edit of the Rave'N with just Wednesday and Tyler shots?)
...
Gates mansion redux. All evidence gone.
Donovan: *bans Wednesday from seeing Tyler*
Me: That's his idea of punishing Wednesday? So he recognizes them as a couple?
Xavier: *forces Wednesday to ask him to the dance*
Me: I guess this could have been a cute romantic moment... if I didn't hate him so much.
...
Wednesday and Tyler, Rave'N conversation outside of the police station.
Tyler: "Hope you guys have fun."
Me: oh. He's more upset that she's going with Xavier of all people. I empathize.
Wednesday: "I don't understand why you're upset"
Me: I thought you didn't care about other people's feelings? Yes, he is obviously upset you're going with someone he has bad history with, but he had grudgingly accepted it and was peacefully going his way! Why would you call him back and ask why he's upset? Couldn't you just take an easy exit? If people around you are emotionally upset and you know very well you don't do emotions, the best option is to disengage! That's like, Avoidance 101! I thought you'd know! *shaking my head*
Tyler: ..."I thought we liked each other"...
Me: Excusez-moi? Where did that come from? Did I miss an episode? She asked for help, you almost helped her run away, then did some detective work together, and you know her usual coffee order - when did all that turn into liking each other? I'm sure Wednesday will give him him an earful for his presumption. And then maybe they will have a fallout. Too bad because I liked them working together. But he had to go and ruin it by thinking she liked him. Typical teenage boy.
Wednesday: *doesn't say he was wrong to think they liked each other, prevaricates by talking about priorities*
Me: Why don't you just tell him he thought wrong, that you're not interested in romance? Wednesday? Weeednesdaaay? Wait, does she actually like him back? When did this happen? Uh oh. At least he's not irritating as Xavier, there is that...
Wednesday: "Not. One. Word."
Me: Don't blame Thing, you brought this upon yourself. That was a totally avoidable awkward conversation
...
Wednesday and Eugene at the Quad
Wednesday: "I thought, since we both don't have a date to the Rave'N,-"
Me: so, she's definitely not going with Xavier. Happy days!
Eugene: "...we should go together?"
Me: ew. That'd be like incest. She's told you that you remind her of her brother.
Wednesday: "we should go stake out the cave"
Me: yes, exactly! Glad it all worked out in the end.
...
Thing: *invites Tyler on Wednesday's behalf*
Me: Oh no. Poor Tyler, he looks so happy now but he's going to be disappointed
...
Evening of the Rave'N.
Wednesday: *opens the door to find Tyler standing outside*
Me: oh no. This would be one of my worst nightmares. (Imagine you had to go to a social event, then learned it got cancelled so you plan to spend the evening alone doing your own thing, then one of your friends who were also going to the event turn up at the door with a new plan because they know both of you have the evening free.)
Tyler: "you need a few minutes?"
Wednesday: *closes the door on his face*
Me: she's probably going to make a rope with the bedsheets tied together and climb down the balcony. That's the only way out now.
Wednesday: *starts looking for a dress in the closet*
Me: whaaat? She's actually going to dance with him? Why can't she just say the truth? Maybe invite him to stakeout the cave together, that would be more productive. He would have local knowledge. (Little did I know...)
Me: oh. I totally forgot. This must be the viral dance episode. (I had heard of the dance, even watched it on YouTube when it was trending, but forgot all about it until this moment)
Tyler: *looks affectionately at the photo of the fencing team.*
Me: aw, he appreciates seeing Wednesday's mother in the fencing team. So he can't be an outcast hater like Xavier says.
Wednesday: *climbs down the steps*
Me: aw, this reminds me of Erin and James from Derry Girls.
Wednesday: *female objectification for the male gaze speech*
Me: I agree with that on principle, but in the current situation it feels kinda awkward and insecure - almost hypocritical of her to say while wearing a pretty dress and about to go dancing with a boy while she could have easily avoided the scenario altogether. I can think of so many snarky replies that Tyler could give her right now, and I fear for Wednesday's feelings.
Tyler: "...amazing. I mean it Wednesday, you look beautiful."
Me: ...
Me: I see. He is the male love interest.
...
At the dance
Me: oh. They look so good together. And Wednesday doesn't seem unhappy to be with Tyler.
Xavier: "Do YOu kNOw WHaT hE diD to mE?"
Me: whatever it was, it was clearly not enough or else you won't try to ruin her evening
...
Wednesday and Tyler backstage
Me: oh, wow. They look a like a long-married couple having a fight. Weirdly I find it so domestic/romantic. If this was a differently rated show I'd be expecting the make-up sex to be hot af.
Tyler: "I knew there was a reason I liked you."
Me: wow he likes for who she is. He's just her type
...
The dance
Me: she looks like she's dancing just for him. And he even tries to match her moves! Sweet.
Xavier: "Do me a favor. Take off your necklace and make me forget about her"
Me: go on Bianca, take off your necklace and make him do something embarrassing. Seriously. How dare he treat her like that? She deserves so much better.
...
Physical by Dua Lipa plays.
Wednesday and Tyler in the middle of the dance floor staring at each other.
Me: are they going to kiss now? Please no, I'm not ready for a kiss scene yet. Tyler looks like he's not going to stop at kissing. And that song in the background is definitely not helping.
*Lucas and friends Carrie's the Rave'N*
Me: ooh, this is just like Derry Girls! Tyler and Wednesday are so jerin coded! And I think Mae Chung would have had Lucas and friends for breakfast. She knew who to target for revenge and how, whereas Lucas and co made Wednesday's evening better!
Wednesday: *sucks on her finger*
Me: omg. I don't know how Tyler is standing there not doing anything. He has better self control than his previous hungry looks suggested. Wednesday is lucky this is a teen-rated show.
Me: why does he say it like it's a big deal? Of course he should believe her. At any rate it's nice to have a genre-savvy watson
...
Tyler: "Love these warm fuzzy memories we're making, dad!"
Me: This sheriff is really bad - he's bad at investigating and bad at parenting and seems to be one of those men who look down on therapy. Now I get why Tyler wants to run away from home.
...
Xavier: *warns Wednesday off Tyler*
Wednesday: "says the boy whose life was served on a silver platter."
Me: Yes, tell him! My girl may have generational wealth but she understands the struggles of those without. Unlike some people.
...
Stalking in the forest scene
Me: *jumpscared* oh no, the monster caught Wednesday? ok, it's only Tyler (little did I know...)
Tyler: "you must think it's weird..."
Wednesday: "I consistently stalk my parents."
Me: ooh they're such kindred spirits :) so happy she finally made a friend who understands her.
Tyler: "You actually saw it? And it didn't try to kill you?"
Me: refreshing to have a watson who asks the right questions instead of the usual stupid ones. I see a lot of potential in these two investigating crimes together.
...
Outreach day
Xavier: "Want a coffee?"
Me: what is that expression on his face?
Wednesday: "I'm actually here for Tyler"
Me: Yes. Wipe that smug look right off his face.
...
Tyler: "You're really getting obsessed with this monster in the woods thing, huh?"
Wednesday: "Would you rather I obsessed over horses and boy bands?"
Me: what do you mean, 'would you rather'? What do you care what he thinks? It doesn't matter what he "would rather" you do!
...
Wednesday: "The monster is human."
Me: I thought it was obvious?
Xavier: *appears suspiciously out of nowhere*
Me: oh no, they're really making him look suspicious here, meaning he is definitely not the monster. Talk about the reddest of red herrings. They want her to suspect him, get close to him, and realize he's innocent so they can kickstart the romance arc. This is so embarrassing.
...
Nothing Else Matters playing
Tyler bathtub scene
Me: Why is the water not stopping? Is he trying to drown himself? Please don't, you're the only person Wednesday trusts enough to ask for help! Don't add to her problems!
Tyler: *screams*
Wednesday voiceover: "The truth is, there are monsters everywhere."
[Warning: Contains somewhat petty Xavier Thorpe bashing. I have a more tolerant view of his character now, but this post is my honest and as-accurate-as-possible recounting of my initial reactions to the weyler scenes in S1]
Wednesday: "I will never fall in love, be a housewife, or have children."
Me: Yay! Finally! A young female lead who is not interested in romance. This will be great.
Me: I spoke too soon. They're doing the 'main girl wins over queen bee and steals her "actually quite deep" boyfriend' trope (whatever that's called), one of the worst.
...
Rowan: *appears*
Me: This guy is more interesting that the other guy. Of all the people Wednesday's met so far in Nevermore, he seems the only person who could be friends with her.
...
Xavier: *Hospital scene*
Me: Ok, they're also doing the childhood friends to lovers trope. If they must do a romance why did it have to be this guy? I've never seen a character exude so much entitlement.
...
Tyler: *offers Wednesday a ride out of Jericho to show gratitude for fixing the machine*
Me: No! How dare he help her get out of Jericho? She needs to stay here and solve mysteries.
...
Donovan: "This little thing took out three boys? Did you help her?"
Tyler: "No dad, I swear I wasn't involved."
Me: Yeah, he just stood by the side like a wimp, watching her deal with three bullies all by herself. At least he's honest and didn't take credit nor did he try to stop her. He seems like a good guy.
...
Tyler: "I wish I was going with you"
Me: Who invited you to run away with her? I want to see her solving crimes here!
Tyler: "At least one of us will get out of this hellhole town"
Me: But why would you want to leave town? It's near Nevermore, you got outcasts and now a mystery monster prowling the woods killing people. What's there not to like? It's such an exciting place to be!
...
Xavier: *tries to chat up Wednesday at the harvest festival*
Me: ugh this is the irl version of 'sliding into her dms'. Leave her alone!
Tyler : "hope I'm not interrupting"
Me: Not at all. Thank God you're here. Anything to get her away from the entitled dude.
...
Tyler: *gives Wednesday her father's files*
Me: Okay, that was nice. Maybe if Wednesday stayed here the two of them can work together and solve crimes. Him being the Sheriff's son is useful.
Tyelr: "I'm not scared of you. I find you kinda kooky."
Me: Cute. He's definitely better than the other two guys.
...
*Lucas and friends prepare to take revenge on Wednesday*
Me: Three boys, a fair, and a "bear" in the background? Is this a Game of Thrones reference? Maybe Weems is the monster in disguise? (Because she's played by Gwendoline Christie - and she was looking very sus when eating that burger)
...
Rowan: *tries to kill Wednesday*
Me: No! I was rooting for you to be friends!
Enter the Hyde.
Hyde: *kils Rowan, saves Wednesday*
Me: okay, so the monster is real (I genuinely thought it might be some hoax from the outcast hating normies - well, I was partially right). And this show means business - they killed off a student! I should have watched it sooner (I watched it for the first time around 2023 spring)
(to be continued)
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me (in the present): Someone pleeease do a weyler x 'the bear and the maiden fair' crossover - edit/fic/art whatever. Thank you.
Wednesday Netflix characters named after classic authors:
Isaac Night - Isaac Asimov (author of 'I, Robot' - this fits Isaac's character very well) [Made a reference to Asimov in my latest fic update, which is what prompted making this list. Mainly to organize my own thoughts]
Nathaniel Faulkner - Nathaniel Hawthorne (The Scarlet Letter) and William Faulkner ("...human heart in conflict with itself which alone can make good writing because only that is worth writing about, worth the agony and the sweat.")
Carl Bradbury (Donovan's friend, murdered by crows) and Bradbury tower (a rare case of repeating an author name - could be relevant?) - Ray Bradbury ('Fahrenheit 451', 'Something Wicked This Way Comes')
Enid - Enid Blyton? (Could be a coincidence but Blyton's works are aimed at children and generally very wholesome, matching Enid)
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Other character names which I guess could be related to media and literature, but could easily be a coincidence:
Tyler - Tyler Durden from the Fight Club?
Coach Vlad - Fencing master - after Vlad the Impaler who inspired Dracula. (Also fun to think that they chose the most obviously Romanian name for the character - the first series was shot in Romania)
Rachel Fairburn - I recall seeing in a comic or the Addams Family movie where there was a book written by a Dr. Fairburn. And I think Rachel is an indirect reference to Nurse Ratched from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, especially since Wednesday's Novel in S2 is titled 'Cuckoo's Nest'
Tudor-Pole - unseen math teacher in S2 (mentioned by Pugsley and Eugene who were selling solutions to his quiz) - Could be a reference to Edward Tudor-Pole? It's such a unique surname, and he's the first search results and while I'm not familiar with his work, the writers of Wednesday might be.
Agnes - Her surname is french, and she takes a lot of photos so maybe Agnes Varda? But I've seen a comic by Charles Addams where Agnes is the name of an unseen character on the other end of the phone, so that's probably the real reason she's named Agnes.
Eugene - This is almost certainly a coincidence, but there's a track called Eugene's Trick Bag in the movie Crossroads, and it's composed by Steve Vai whose interests include beekeeping.
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What if Wednesday left her snood at the Weathervane hoping that Tyler would bring it back? I mean, she could have "lost" it anywhere, but she chose to leave it there, after Tyler had seen her with it.
Maybe he ruined his chances for a quick reconciliation by returning it via Bianca instead.
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From the moment Tyler's t-shirt was cut open, Wednesday avoided eye contact with him, ostensibly focusing on the applying of stitches, but very determinedly not looking at his face because she was too flustered to do so while touching his chest. And when Tyler said, "Thanks, doc," it was to make her look him in the eye.