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When it feels like they keep teasing it but the remakes of DP skipped out on a heel-face turn/redemption arc for your fave villain, so you have doubts about how things are actually gonna go.
(Jesus- checking out what I've posted recently. I generally go to Tumblr to rant about stuff if I'm sad. I'm not this much of a sad sac IRL I promise)
If you're here checking out my page- heads up that I plan to post some art stuff sometime and I'm not entirely terrible at art so stay tuned if you're interested
Way too long, in depth analysis of a Pokemon character that doesn't even have that many lines in game:
General CW for talking about some emotional stuff and results of not the best childhood- feelings of inadequacy, bullying and not great parents mentioned, trauma , and why people dissociate themselves from their own emotions.
This ended up way too long. This is the result of Cyrus being a favorite character of mine since Diamond and Pearlās release- Iāve had a lot of time to overthink everything about his character. This is also written by someone who has experience with prolonged, emotional dissonance and a long-held ideology that emotions only hurt and cause harm (both of which Iām healing out of). Might be worth checking out if youāre interested in going in depth with the character or if youāre confused about his motives and emotional state.
Note: I mention the possibility of a specific possible diagnosis or specific mental processes, thought patterns, etc. Generally I believe giving specific damaging events or diagnoses to characters is invalidating to real life people. There can be positives if itās done well and informed. Anything I talk about here are things I know a decent amount about through my social science training, academic studies, specializing experienced therapists, and my own journey with unlearning long-term emotional dissociating. I always hated every āMary Sueā having a trauma history without people really understanding the effects but using it as a way to make the character more interesting. I think some good can come out of it when not used as a way to just āmake the character more interestingā but when showing the full, sometimes devastating effects. It can be informative when done right. I generally stray away from specific damaging events or diagnoses as Iām not trained and donāt wish to invalidate them for people. If doing so helps you in your process and journey- please donāt let me deter you. I would just advise that it be done carefully. This isnāt to say- if youāre not professionally taught, never give mental health headcanons to characters. Just donāt trust any random webpage on Google, or Tiktok, or your friends to give you decent mental health information.
The Diamond and Pearl remakes just came out and itās probably prime time to post this long winded BS about Cyrusās character. Take it with a grain of salt- a lot is speculation and a decent amount is projection as I dealt with as one of the roughest things Iāve had to learn in therapy is to be less analytical and learning to accept feelings and emotion and human connection as a positive and important part of healing.
Emotional numbness and being adverse to emotionality isnāt the result of sociopathy. I see a lot of people referring to Cyrus as a sociopath but definitely believe that the way he approaches emotion isnāt just not caring one way or the other for them or being born without them- itās a disgust of them- which doesnāt come from nowhere. People donāt become so strongly opposed to something without something driving it. Not all that much is shared about his history or past so I canāt make any assumptions as to why he thinks the way he does but life experience taught him that emotion doesnāt bring anything good. Little 6th grade me wholeheartedly agreed with Cyrusās plan- but, I think in a similar way, I hadnāt really felt much aside from depression, anxiety, and numbness to really understand that emotions did have potential to be good. Iāll try to stray away from my own life anecdotes as this isnāt really what this is about but it does serve as a real world example of why peopleās mindsets and thought patterns turn in this way.
The most we know about Cyrusās childhood is that he was largely isolated from other kids and his parents never felt he did well enough despite everything he tried. You can meet his grandfather in Platinum who laments about not taking him to raise and that he was just continuously damaged under the situation he grew up in. He either already had emotional damage that made him wary of other people from a young age or is potentially autistic and just prefered machinery to people (or a mix of the two). This is really the only exception I make to my general rule of not diagnosing characters with specifics but I think this one isnāt too far of a stretch and could explain some things about him. I donāt remember where but somewhere he states that machines are predictable and easy to understand and people arenāt. If you choose to headcanon this (and the other concepts Iāll talk about), it could serve as a reminder that autistic people are multi-faceted, arenāt emotionless, need to be treated well, are intelligent, and want connection even if theyāre on a little different wavelength than what we consider neurotypical. And as we all know- loner or āstrangeā kids donāt really get treated well. If he was mistreated by peers through life- it would help to explain why he believes that people and high emotional states are unsafe.
The voice we constantly hear from our parents becomes our inner voice in adulthood. Cyrus was constantly trying to be good enough for the adult authority in his life but was never good enough. The grunts in Team Galactic very often mention how brilliant his is. A scientist in their base mentions that heās been with the company for 5 years. If Cyrus is 27, that means he managed to form Team Galactic at 22 or earlier which is frankly incredible (unless he inherited/bought out a company from someone else and turned it into Team Galactic later.) He wants to form a perfect world where people donāt fall into emotional folly. āPerfectā is repeated a lot in the things he says. For someone that was taught the way he is is never good enough, he still feels inadequate. If he was consistently mistreated, watched world conflicts, and peopleās emotional stupidity causing problems, and hasnāt really ever experienced anything positive enough to convince him emotion is good or useful, he would come to see emotion as a human failing and a significant factor in keeping people from perfection.
In the same way we donāt trust that that one friend who constantly insists how much they arenāt gay to actually be not gay, we shouldnāt trust Cyrusās constant assertions that he doesnāt have emotion. He may have even convinced himself he doesnāt. People can numb themselves without realizing it if what theyāre feeling under the surface isnāt really what theyāre equipped to handle yet. I lived incredibly numb for years and had no idea of how much I wasnāt feeling and how much I was covering up. I believe Cyrus is the same. At a point, you fail to gauge what it is you are and arenāt feeling and the things that do crop up under the surface arenāt great. He could very well be in a state of complete emotional dissociation when we come to know him in the story. Heās still feeling stuff, heās just so completely disconnected to it to really know what it is. There are many forms of dissociation so it isnāt a far stretch to say that someone can dissociate from their emotions or even feeling their body at all. (Side āfun factā many victims of physical trauma canāt feel their bodies much and have an extremely high pain tolerance). Cyrus either lies to the player repeatedly, knowing he fully feels emotions, or has actually partially disconnected from them due to how awful theyāve been to him. People who are dissociating are still feeling something subconsciously but are too disconnected consciously to actually āfeelā it properly but all the feelings are still there under it all. If this is the case, thereās likely some form or trauma or PTSD as dissociation is nearly always linked to trauma and I think the level to which heās adverse to emotions could be indicative of that as well. There isnāt really many other worse feelings that would require emotional dissociation to that degree.
As much as I donāt really want to speculate much on the type of trauma a Pokemon character endured, I think thereās a couple possibilities that could be implied and there is some importance in pointing out that the possibilities are hugely impactful and important in peopleās lives, even if theyāre seen overlooked or minimized in comparison to other traumas. Many āsmallerā traumatic events build up and show the same effects as someone with a single sudden horrific traumatic event and neither should ever be discounted as being hugely impactful to someone. Ongoing bullying and torment from peers can very very easily be traumatizing. Itās possible his disconnection from others and being seen as strange as a child could hint at this. In the manga, his statement that if he had known someone kind in his youth, things may have gone differently for him, indicating that he never really experienced positive connection with others. Very little is known about his parents except for they had high expectations he could never reach and his Grandfather thought he would have done better had he been raised away from them. We could speculate that his parents potentially caused some sort of trauma as well. For the parents, it really could be anything from neglect or emotional abuse but we donāt know enough to say and itās a Pokemon game so weāre never going to. Thatās as far as Iāll go into speculation about possible trauma as itās a very personal and impactful subject and I donāt want to do real life survivors a disservice by going into more specifics or speculating more on it- especially for anything that isnāt hinted at in canon.
People in his emotional state too see shoving down emotion and being stoic as a positive trait, which he clearly does. Heās generally skilled at shoving things down and boasts about his ability to do so repeatedly. The last interaction you have with him in Platinum, he admits to being angry and finds himself frustrated that he wasnāt able to shove it down properly. In moments like this, and I think this is very far from the only time heās felt something against his will, he hasnāt reached his own expectations of himself and is still inadequate. Humans have emotions, and for someone who feels shoving them down is best, having them show up is a sign of not being good enough. This happening repeatedly through his life would leave him more and more desperate to get at his perfect world where he doesnāt feel inadequate.
He hasnāt experienced or seen anything significant shows of emotion being positive and frankly just doesnāt understand the concept. His own world view is projected and he doesnāt understand why others would want to retain an emotional world when in his eyes, all itās done is caused pain. His world view is deluded enough to believe heās doing everyone a favor and recusing everyone from themselves and a world in which emotion people cause pain to one another. Heās not evil in the way other Pokemon villains are- some others donāt care about harm done by the world and potential good brought through their plan. In Pokemon Masters, he states that he isnāt much for conversation but if youāre against the evil team in that game, heās interested in what you have to say. Heās against what he views as evil for self gain and needless harm which seems strange considering the great amount of harm he caused while trying to complete his goal.
But- if he had completed his goal, and he was so set on it and didnāt really see failure as an option, the pain he caused wouldnāt matter to anyone. If he had succeeded, the pain would be wiped from people. In his mind, the pain was only very temporary vs them later being unharmed by strife and emotion in the future. The end justified the means and even further- the strife from the āmeansā would be completely erased. When he failed and has to face himself and the things heās done, I think the pain he inflicted it without erasing it would be an incredible difficult thing for him to grapple with.
With many emotionally damaged to the point he is, the way out of that thinking is being in an emotional situation that proves you wrong which happens in the manga. Both manga have him switch sides when shown the first experience he has with witnessing friendship. A lot of people might see it as too fast or sudden of a change but this is how people change their minds and it can happen with a sudden realization. He got a glimpse of the positives of human connection and emotion and realized what he had been missing and what people had been trying to tell him. And trying to explain something like that doesnāt work- they would have to feel or experience it for it to sink in. At one point, he realizes his plan has failed but he caused enough danger that could destroy the world with nothing to replace it and heās devastated. His intent wasnāt to erase everything with nothing better to replace it. He joins the protagonist team in helping to keep the world the way it was vs. it being completely gone. Iām unsure how much the manga can be taken into canon but he goes as far as admitting that he let his logic and own incompleteness get the better of him and saying he may have turned out differently had he met someone kind to him young. After itās all said and done, heās pleased to be met with gratitude. In my opinion, heās by far the most redeemable Pokemon villain.
Thereās an unused scene in Diamond and Pearl where heāll greet you and admire your poketch and advises that you try your best. With all the other evidence around Cyrus, I donāt think this is out of character for him to say. I think it was deleted to make him less confusing for kids. Kids donāt quite understand the nuance of someone insisting that theyāre numb and hints of severe emotional distress. The people who made the games arenāt unintelligent and saying they would be able to make a character like the one Iām describing isnāt a far stretch. For anyone thatād dealt with some difficulty in accepting their own emotional pain or been dealt an unfair hand in life, his character wouldnāt be too difficult to come up with. Masters has some weird unused voice clips that further illustrate my point that he isnāt just evil and emotionless; including a very strange one of him telling you to rest if your body needs it.
I always find myself frustrated with people taking him at his word that heās unemotional or even maybe sociopathic cause weāve been shown a lot of evidence that this isnāt the case but it takes a bit to piece everything together. Heās been a favorite character of mine since Diamond and Pearl came out. I found something very relatable in him being so emotionally adverse. Through my own therapy and learning to be less numb and face some of the stuff Iāve experience and felt, Iāve learned a decent amount about why Iām drawn to a character that was in a similar emotional state and each form of media that gives more hints of who he is leads me to believe thereās some complexity to the character and maybe the things he tells you in game about himself shouldnāt be taken at face value. Iāve come to feel that people who believe heās sociopathic or an emotional robot are lucky in that theyāve never had a relationship with emotions that caused their brain to decide theyāre better not felt. My last bit of personal experience- the healing from this mindset is an immense, horrific, undertaking- but survivable and worth it. His would be incredibly difficult when also facing learning to trust and let people in for the first time and the weight of what heās done towards his eventual failed goal and Iām all the way bummed that we donāt get anything further with his character in the remakes.
Sorry for how long this got, Iāve thought a ton about this character from the release of Diamond and Pearl until now and just wanted to throw a fairly comprehensive character evaluation out there. Thanks for sticking out to the end- hope you found it interesting in anyway.
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Iām standing on a stage
Of fear and self-doubt
Itās a hollow play
But theyāll clap anyway
My body is a cage that keeps me
From dancing with the one I love
But my mind holds the key
Youāre standing next to me
My mind holds the key
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