I can handle it!!!! (she said, clearly not handling it)

“If you promise to stay alive just a little bit longer I promise that we are going to make this world a place worth living in by any means necessary. I ain’t giving up. I swear.” 

Omg, so awful of him to not want people to kill others. To care about life. Anyway, can we get some sources of him "forcing" others to follow his no-kill rule?

"Once Dick killed the Joker and Bruce revived him."

Yeah, because Dick would have kill himself if he had stayed a murderer. He hated himself so much after. Bruce saved the Joker to save Dick.

"Well, he forces Jason."

THE CRIME! A FATHER DOESN'T WANT HIS SON TO BE A MURDERER! Quick, go ask your parents how they would react if you decapitated 8 guys, how they would feel if you started murdering people. And don't smother things with "but they are bad people" because Jason murdered many goons, people who would never have been served the death penalty. Call me back after.

Like I think this is what DC fans keep missing

All the superheroes have a no-kill-rule to some degree or another yes, but it is definitive to Batman and his allies because that's like the whole thing.

Batman is such a simple way to explore the question: "Death Penalty: yay or nay?"

like it's INESCAPABLE of this piece of media because it IS political, which makes all the language surrounding Batman's no kill rule so concerning

"Let's just kill the Joker! Just the Joker!"

Why just the Joker? He's not the only rogue who messed up other people/characters' lives

How does that account for him being mentally ill? Do you not realize the precedence that's setting?

What about Harley, his willing accomplice? Is she absolved? Oh she's a "victim"? Isn't the Joker technically a victim of mental illness and societal factors leading thereof? Oh she's "redeemed"? Why can't we extend the same grace to the Joker?

Where does it count?

"Let's just do it for major rogues! Not the small time rogues!"

Why? Didn't they choose to be rogues too?

What about those who had to be rogues or lackeys for some socioeconomic reason or another?

Decapitation: why stop at the head of the system? What assurance is there that the system won't be imitated with a different head and gears?

Where does it count?

"It's in the hands of [character]!"

Will they make the perfect call every time? Is that a fun thing to read?

Would that not betray everything that the character stands for?

Will it always count?

And then they soft stance like "oh but it's fiction!" — but the fiction is based on a REAL ISSUE

Toxic fans making fun of the No Kill Rule, are you okay with the death penalty? Yay or nay?

"Yay"? .....read a book, my guy idk what to tell you

Yes, he would prefer no one die and everyone get the help they need and that they don't have to resort to death- 'if someone can be saved, I have to try'

but if the courts decreed Joker should die for his crimes, he'd be disappointed because he thinks everyone should be saved and that death hurts more than it solved, but he would respect the Verdict and the Jury of Peers that decided Joker's crimes went past simple 'insanity' the way he always pleads- because Joker is mentally unstable and as such cannot technically be held accountable for his crimes etc etc

Bruce is not against the death penalty. He is against unlawful and unjust killing. He has faith in the justice system and that is why he Does Not Kill and does not allow those who work with/for him to kill either.

Jason met Batman in that alleyway amidst his attempt at theft. Tim was invested in Batman first before he knew the person under the cowl. Cass knew the mission before the family, the knight before the man. Damian had been raised with stories of the Bat specifically and recognized the legend before his parent. Barbara imitated the Batman's shadow before outgrowing it. Stephanie trusted Batman before/more than she trusted the man behind it. Duke had been raised with the stories of Batman, knew him first before knowing who he truly is.

Dick though?

The first encounter he ever has with Batman is as Bruce Wayne

Bruce who cared not about Dick being a stranger and the larger case unfolding around them, and just saw a child crying and surrounded by his dead guardians, and thought "This is what I was made for" before coming to help him

Nor can you be a Batkid fan and dislike Batman

Why? They'd hate you if you hate their family.

By which I mean, asks used to be WAY more of the tumblr economy. They used to be more common to send, and receive, and see. They were integral to the collaborative, forum-like behavior of old tumblr communities, not even to speak on the HUGE number of ask-blogs that used to exist to only be interacted with in ask-form.