Snarky Gymnastics Commentary

Oh god, this Amanot is horrifying.

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Cheng fei is a three time world champion

Sorry, I’ve had a bunch of questions recently and wasn’t sure who you were referring to. I don’t memorize every gymnast’s medal count. So, I can’t say that someone who won some World golds is overrated? I didn’t say she was a poor vaulter. I said I thought she was a bit overrated, meaning that I think her reputation afforded her some gifts in scoring that maybe she didn’t quite deserve and that other gymnasts didn’t receive.

She wasn’t as powerful as she was made out to be. She often had issues with her block, on both the Cheng and the Amanar. She fell on her best event more often than people seem to recall, and she had some weird precision issues with her twisting on vault. I don’t personally think her vaulting in reality quite lived up to her reputation.

I think the thing with Cheng Fei’s “hype” and “halo” is what she meant for Chinese gymnastics and China. (and as a result, a lot of pressure was placed on her shoulders and she wasn’t someone that dealt with pressure very well, there’s been numerous interviews with her where she recalled breaking down and crying during training. And I think that’s why she fell in 2008, pretty much the same reason as Mac tbh.)

She’s a national hero and I definitely think there’s some halo around her.

Like just objectively viewing her vaults, I would say she doesn’t have a certain BAM! Factor that a lot of US gymnast have, which pretty much translates into the height and distance of the skill, I believe. I think her “power” is being overblown because she’s the first Chinese woman to display such difficulty on floor and vault, which are considered “strength” events.

China was called “the sick man of Asia” for the longest time in its early modern history, like it’s literally part of the reason why the government spends an obscene amount of money to get the type of medal count every Olympics. Every Chinese athlete, when they are competing for the country, have something to prove not just for themselves. It’s something that’s deeper than personal glory and nationalism. It’s literally trying to wash off a century of shame and discrimination.

So for someone like Cheng Fei, she’s kind of like defying stereotypes in a way and that’s why she’s celebrated immensely in China and her “power” is being talked about very often and revered. Kind of like how Liu Xiang, the first to win an Olympic gold in a men’s track and field event for China, is a HUGE deal in China and despite disappointments at 2008 and 2012 olympics he was still afforded a lot of respect by the media.

Yes, I agree with everything you’re saying and I understand why Cheng is revered in China. In that context (you know, in comparison to the Chinese athletes who came before her and the typical Chinese gymnast who excels at UB and BB but not the leg events) she WAS a hero and was someone who excelled at those events and absolutely set herself apart. She brought back medals to China on events at which China was historically weak. I do understand that. So I’m not saying Cheng was overrated in that context, but when I consider the scores she received and her reputation globally, outside of China, I do think she is a bit overrated. And I say that as a HUGE fan of Cheng Fei.

Yup. I’m just trying to say that I think her international scores I think is influenced by those reasons–like being star-struck or something. I call it the Mustafina effect lmfao.

I mean I can see that the judges being influenced by the fact that she stands out so much on those events among her peers and that she is like inspiring to those in her country and probably other East Asian countries.

Also perhaps they are trying to be encouraging? Who knows. It’s FIG.

Uhhhhh, calling Cheng Fei the first Chinese athlete to be good at VT and FX is a bit of a stretch.

China had some of the most difficulty on VT and FX in the 90s. They won several VT and FX medals (Li Ya in 95, Mo Huilan and Kui Yuanyuan in 96, and Zhou Duan in 97) and would’ve won more if their athletes weren’t so inconsistent. I mean, you’re talking about a team with 3 DTY’s during a time when Romania and the US had none.

No one said she was the first Chinese athlete to be good at vault and floor, though. Literally no one.

It literally says “she’s the first Chinese woman to display such difficulty on floor and vault, which are considered ‘strength’ events” in one of the posts, lmao.

Oh my god, reading comprehension…16-233 said Cheng was the first Chinese woman to display such difficulty, meaning she was the first Chinese gymnast to show the kind of difficulty she did on floor and vault, far and above everyone else. 16-233 did not say that Cheng was the first Chinese gymnast to be good at floor and vault, like you claimed they said.

The athletes you mention certainly were good floor and vault workers, especially given the time, but Cheng showed more difficulty both overall (obviously) and in the context of her era versus the competition. She was an innovator on vault and had incredible difficulty on floor in a way that set her apart more than the gymnasts you mentioned. I believe that was 16-233′s point, not that Cheng was the first Chinese gymnast to be good at vault and floor. Again, no one said that. Only you.

Which is why I said EXPLICITLY mentioned difficulty in my post. Cheng Fei was not the first Chinese gymnast to show the kind of difficulty she did on floor.

For example, Ji Liya competed a FTDLO, Double Tuck 1/1. and 5/2 to punch front in 95, along with having done before a whip to double arabian and triple twist.

Don’t bitch about reading comprehension if you’re not going to read either.

Cheng fei is a three time world champion

Sorry, I’ve had a bunch of questions recently and wasn’t sure who you were referring to. I don’t memorize every gymnast’s medal count. So, I can’t say that someone who won some World golds is overrated? I didn’t say she was a poor vaulter. I said I thought she was a bit overrated, meaning that I think her reputation afforded her some gifts in scoring that maybe she didn’t quite deserve and that other gymnasts didn’t receive.

She wasn’t as powerful as she was made out to be. She often had issues with her block, on both the Cheng and the Amanar. She fell on her best event more often than people seem to recall, and she had some weird precision issues with her twisting on vault. I don’t personally think her vaulting in reality quite lived up to her reputation.

I think the thing with Cheng Fei’s “hype” and “halo” is what she meant for Chinese gymnastics and China. (and as a result, a lot of pressure was placed on her shoulders and she wasn’t someone that dealt with pressure very well, there’s been numerous interviews with her where she recalled breaking down and crying during training. And I think that’s why she fell in 2008, pretty much the same reason as Mac tbh.)

She’s a national hero and I definitely think there’s some halo around her.

Like just objectively viewing her vaults, I would say she doesn’t have a certain BAM! Factor that a lot of US gymnast have, which pretty much translates into the height and distance of the skill, I believe. I think her “power” is being overblown because she’s the first Chinese woman to display such difficulty on floor and vault, which are considered “strength” events.

China was called “the sick man of Asia” for the longest time in its early modern history, like it’s literally part of the reason why the government spends an obscene amount of money to get the type of medal count every Olympics. Every Chinese athlete, when they are competing for the country, have something to prove not just for themselves. It’s something that’s deeper than personal glory and nationalism. It’s literally trying to wash off a century of shame and discrimination.

So for someone like Cheng Fei, she’s kind of like defying stereotypes in a way and that’s why she’s celebrated immensely in China and her “power” is being talked about very often and revered. Kind of like how Liu Xiang, the first to win an Olympic gold in a men’s track and field event for China, is a HUGE deal in China and despite disappointments at 2008 and 2012 olympics he was still afforded a lot of respect by the media.

Yes, I agree with everything you’re saying and I understand why Cheng is revered in China. In that context (you know, in comparison to the Chinese athletes who came before her and the typical Chinese gymnast who excels at UB and BB but not the leg events) she WAS a hero and was someone who excelled at those events and absolutely set herself apart. She brought back medals to China on events at which China was historically weak. I do understand that. So I’m not saying Cheng was overrated in that context, but when I consider the scores she received and her reputation globally, outside of China, I do think she is a bit overrated. And I say that as a HUGE fan of Cheng Fei.

Yup. I’m just trying to say that I think her international scores I think is influenced by those reasons–like being star-struck or something. I call it the Mustafina effect lmfao.

I mean I can see that the judges being influenced by the fact that she stands out so much on those events among her peers and that she is like inspiring to those in her country and probably other East Asian countries.

Also perhaps they are trying to be encouraging? Who knows. It’s FIG.

Uhhhhh, calling Cheng Fei the first Chinese athlete to be good at VT and FX is a bit of a stretch.

China had some of the most difficulty on VT and FX in the 90s. They won several VT and FX medals (Li Ya in 95, Mo Huilan and Kui Yuanyuan in 96, and Zhou Duan in 97) and would’ve won more if their athletes weren’t so inconsistent. I mean, you’re talking about a team with 3 DTY’s during a time when Romania and the US had none.

No one said she was the first Chinese athlete to be good at vault and floor, though. Literally no one.

It literally says “she’s the first Chinese woman to display such difficulty on floor and vault, which are considered ‘strength’ events” in one of the posts, lmao.

Cheng fei is a three time world champion

Sorry, I’ve had a bunch of questions recently and wasn’t sure who you were referring to. I don’t memorize every gymnast’s medal count. So, I can’t say that someone who won some World golds is overrated? I didn’t say she was a poor vaulter. I said I thought she was a bit overrated, meaning that I think her reputation afforded her some gifts in scoring that maybe she didn’t quite deserve and that other gymnasts didn’t receive.

She wasn’t as powerful as she was made out to be. She often had issues with her block, on both the Cheng and the Amanar. She fell on her best event more often than people seem to recall, and she had some weird precision issues with her twisting on vault. I don’t personally think her vaulting in reality quite lived up to her reputation.

I think the thing with Cheng Fei’s “hype” and “halo” is what she meant for Chinese gymnastics and China. (and as a result, a lot of pressure was placed on her shoulders and she wasn’t someone that dealt with pressure very well, there’s been numerous interviews with her where she recalled breaking down and crying during training. And I think that’s why she fell in 2008, pretty much the same reason as Mac tbh.)

She’s a national hero and I definitely think there’s some halo around her.

Like just objectively viewing her vaults, I would say she doesn’t have a certain BAM! Factor that a lot of US gymnast have, which pretty much translates into the height and distance of the skill, I believe. I think her “power” is being overblown because she’s the first Chinese woman to display such difficulty on floor and vault, which are considered “strength” events.

China was called “the sick man of Asia” for the longest time in its early modern history, like it’s literally part of the reason why the government spends an obscene amount of money to get the type of medal count every Olympics. Every Chinese athlete, when they are competing for the country, have something to prove not just for themselves. It’s something that’s deeper than personal glory and nationalism. It’s literally trying to wash off a century of shame and discrimination.

So for someone like Cheng Fei, she’s kind of like defying stereotypes in a way and that’s why she’s celebrated immensely in China and her “power” is being talked about very often and revered. Kind of like how Liu Xiang, the first to win an Olympic gold in a men’s track and field event for China, is a HUGE deal in China and despite disappointments at 2008 and 2012 olympics he was still afforded a lot of respect by the media.

Yes, I agree with everything you’re saying and I understand why Cheng is revered in China. In that context (you know, in comparison to the Chinese athletes who came before her and the typical Chinese gymnast who excels at UB and BB but not the leg events) she WAS a hero and was someone who excelled at those events and absolutely set herself apart. She brought back medals to China on events at which China was historically weak. I do understand that. So I’m not saying Cheng was overrated in that context, but when I consider the scores she received and her reputation globally, outside of China, I do think she is a bit overrated. And I say that as a HUGE fan of Cheng Fei.

Yup. I’m just trying to say that I think her international scores I think is influenced by those reasons–like being star-struck or something. I call it the Mustafina effect lmfao.

I mean I can see that the judges being influenced by the fact that she stands out so much on those events among her peers and that she is like inspiring to those in her country and probably other East Asian countries.

Also perhaps they are trying to be encouraging? Who knows. It’s FIG.

#cheng fei #mo huilan #zhou duan #kui yuanyuan #ji liya

Uhhhhh, calling Cheng Fei the first Chinese athlete to be good at VT and FX is a bit of a stretch.

China had some of the most difficulty on VT and FX in the 90s. They won several VT and FX medals (Ji Liya in 95, Mo Huilan and Kui Yuanyuan in 96, and Zhou Duan in 97) and would’ve won more if their athletes weren’t so inconsistent. I mean, you’re talking about a team with 3 DTY’s during a time when Romania and the US had none.

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whygfcwhy

my-bff-nastia jyosef can we get some numbers crunched on this?

tragicsymphony26

wasn’t it proven by the pan ams score that they would have beaten them at worlds last year?? instead of getting over 15 they consistently got 14s and still got almost 15′s on vault.

I wouldn’t even consider the Pan Ams team a B team. It was more of a C team. Team USA’s A gymnasts Simone Biles Aly Raisman Maggie Nichols Gabby Douglas Bailie Key Team USA’s B+/A- gymnasts Kyla Ross Ashton Locklear Mykayla Skinner Team USA’s B gymnasts Madison Kocian Alyssa Baumann Brenna Dowell

Team USA’s C gymnasts Madison Desch Amelia Hundley Rachel Gowey

Notice that 5/6 members of last year’s gold medal winning team are not A gymnasts.

The US could easily send two teams to Worlds and win gold and silver.

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jordynslefteyebrow

same

warrior-skyscraper

Her makeup is so unfortunate

Thank god I’m not the only one who found it highly questionable.

#aly raisman

When this year’s Classics has been the best AA competition in years.

#lmao

wats-good-gabby

marta: help! i need strong UB/BB workers!

gabo:

maggie:

bailie:

#Maggie Nichols #Gabby Douglas #Aly Raisman #Bailie Key #Simone Biles

It’s unfortunate to see how much Bailie’s beam has deteriorated, but at least she’s improved just as much on bars.

#Bailie Keys

There is literally Soviet Union era level of depth in Team USA currently. I feel bad for all of the World medal-worthy gymnasts that inevitably won’t make the team this year.

Really, Skinner? Out of all events, you nail bars?

#Mykayla Skinner

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When Team USA has 5 gymnasts capable of breaking 60.

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Simone, Maggie, Aly, Gabby, and Bailie are making their case for Worlds. The question is who the last spot will go to.

There’s literally no weak spot on this team except maybe bars.

With that team, I would take Skinner. She’ll bring in a vault medal too so Marta might as well take her.