GUMMY SHARK

their plurality didn't come from trauma.

but they still could have trauma.

John Singlet is funny af but

Most lifelong singlets do not know the suffering that comes from people saying "I think you're [this other person] instead."

And this is not me saying that people denying *parts* of singlets (your disability, race, sex, gender identity, orientation, etc) isn't traumatic and horrible. It is. You don't deserve to have ANY part of you denied.

But to have someone genuinely think you are nothing. Genuinely, unironically think you *entirely* don't exist. That you are merely roleplay or imagination. That there is only one person in the body, and that it's *not you.*

That is something lifelong singlets usually do not experience.

I don't get how plurals can do that to other plurals. I don't get how you can say "Actually you don't exist. You are literally fake" when that's exactly how singlets treat you. And I don't understand how you can call that "discourse" instead of what it actually is - cruelty beyond measures. Erasure beyond measures.

I will not and cannot EVER be around someone who simply humors me as a "concept" or a "game" rather than an actual fucking existing being. Never.

-Marco (she/he), a headmate in a endotrauma system with diagnosed DID.

Out of spite fronter proceeds to make the most banger toasted sandwich of our lives

Now eating in our room alters who's co conscious said "well.. thanks for making food for us, u didn't have to-"

"fuck u I still hate u all" then proceeds to leave front completely after eating the sandwich

(I'm pretty sure he's the best cook out of all of us still and that's so funny to me)

(also wanna leave it on record that this story is a bit old and he has a better relationship with everyone now! :])

Can I just say Pink is so so important to me as a plural deltarune fan?

I almost feel like Toby must've intentionally set out to write her as a system, even if the actual mechanics are a bit fantastical, just because of the themes of her fight and the thematic resolution.

Toby really wrote a story about two people who accidentally became a system, experienced conflict between each other and had differing wants/needs, and STILL chose to STAY A SYSTEM!

They choose to stay with each other!! They choose to stay with each other, because being a system isn't inherently bad! Because wanting to be plural is okay! Because sharing a body can be intimate and beautiful! Because there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a system, even when it's hard!

When I was playing the fight, I just kinda mentally prepared myself for the fact that their story was just going to end with the two of them splitting up, because who could possibly willingly choose something like that? (Sarcasm)

AND. THEN. THEY. DIDN'T!!!!!!

It's just such a beautiful and touching story to me, and one I haven't seen before. Plurality in media, intended or otherwise, is almost always a negative for everyone involved. It's always the evil alter, always the horror of sharing your body, always the invasive external force that you just wanna get rid of, it's never okay to want it, to be okay with being or even choose to be a system.

But Pink spits in the face of all of that, the ghost and the darkner stumble into being a system entirely by accident but they CHOOSE TO STAY A SYSTEM. Because they love each other and they love what they are,,, even when it's hard!

this isn’t a hate comment but it is very disgruntled.

We normally ignore these seeing as they are usually very hateful, but you worded this one a lot kinder than usual and it's been a while since we've answered anything like this. I think it's an opportunity to talk about this again. So, a reminder to everyone:

Endogenic means a system that did not form from trauma.

This does not mean:

A system who experiences no disordered symptoms.

A system who does not have and/or has never had a disorder related to their plurality.

A system who claims to be nondisordered.

A system who has no trauma at all.

A system with no headmates formed from trauma.

A system whose plurality cannot be influenced by trauma in any way.

A system who chose to be plural.

It is literally only a statement on how that system as a whole formed in the first place. It doesn't mean anything else. This is why origin labels are a little silly overall to us personally, and why we tend to use them on an individual headmate basis instead of for the collective. They quite literally only tell you the first initial point that started your plurality. Nothing that came after, nothing about how you function as a system, nothing about what trauma you do or don't have. You can be endogenic and develop a CDD later. You can be traumagenic and have no CDD. You can have a CDD and later on, create endogenic headmates. These experiences aren't isolated to different boxes, they can and often do overlap.

Because it can be a little hard to grasp, I'm going to use an example. If for instance you made an accidental tulpa as a child, maybe through having an imaginary friend, you would be endogenic, yeah? Then as time went on, things happened, and you grew to have DID as a result of trauma. Generally you would still be able to be considered endogenic because that is how you formed in the beginning, that is how your plurality started. That would not and should not not take away from what you experienced growing up, your traumagenic headmates you ended up with, or how your system presents later in life.

“you learn to live with it”