Balance in the Force is often misunderstood, but at this point, there is enough out there about from authoritative sources that there really shouldn’t be any confusion on it anymore. People who assumed that Balance had to do with some ratio of Dark to Light aren’t interested in being corrected, they just want to hold on to their ‘Grey Jedi’ fan fic crap and don’t have much respect for George Lucas’s vision.
From George Lucas to Dave Filoni, from Pablo Hidalgo to Bryan Young, there’s no confusion on what Balance in the Force means.
People using the Darkside of the Force is what causes imbalance in the Force.
Not the Darkside itself, you can’t destroy the Darkside as that’s a part of the Living Force and is about what’s in the hearts of man. But, you can destroy Darksiders. They are all evil, and they seek to get around what the Cosmic Force has created and set ‘the rules of the Universe’.
Using the Force for oneself, for power, for Glory, for personal wants, using it for selfish reasons [people aren’t suppose to live forever, that goes against the natural order of things.], using it for one’s self and wants creates evil in the Star Wars Universe and causes imbalance. Evil causes imbalance in the Force.
Balance in one’s self, and Balance in the Force are not the same thing. WE all have competing emotions, and emotions are fine, everyone is a little selfish, but you’re not suppose to just give into it, your suppose to fight it. We all have the Darkside within us, we are all capable of doing wrong is we let our emotions get the best of us.
Force users aren’t like regular people and they can’t get away with the same things as non force users might, being in touch with the Force effects everything that’s living, and thus they way people can use the Force can effect everything that’s living in some way. The Force connects all living things.
Non - Force users can certainly be evil, but, they can’t effect things thru the Force. There is nothing more dangerous in the Star Wars universe than a Darksider. They are selfish, they are power hungry, they only care about themselves, and they will hurt, kill, enslave, anyone and anything that stands in the way of their wants.They are evil. - It isn’t a choice. The Darkside corrupts all that use it. It changes the person, they aren’t who they use to be, and that is probable why Darksiders change their names when they fall.
The Star Wars universe is not like real life. You can’t say ‘Balance not including evil or selfishness doesn’t make sense’. We’re talking about ‘space magic’, it already doesn’t make sense. =p If you want ‘realistic’ don’t watch Star Wars. I don’t want realism in my fantasy, thank you very much! =]
The Sith don’t cause imbalance because they are Sith, they cause imbalance because they use the Darkside of the Force.
In the original trilogy the Force was out of balance the whole time until the end of Return of the Jedi and you had 2 Jedi and 2 Sith and the Force was not in balance.
At the end of Return of the Jedi, Vader went back to the Lightside and killed Palpatine. There were no more Darksiders left, only Lightsiders and the Force was in balance.
Here’s what George Lucas and Dave Filoni have to say on the matter. [I’m not all that interested in Disney Star Wars, but, they are not suppose to change anything Lucas said or did, so I’m talking real Star Wars here [The 6 Films and The Clone Wars series, which were the only things George Lucas considered canon and set the canon to.]
"While Lucasfilm always strived to keep the stories created for the EU consistent with our film and television content as well as internally consistent, Lucas always made it clear that he was not beholden to the EU. He set the films he created as the canon. This includes the six Star Wars episodes, and the many hours of content he developed and produced in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align."
~ Lucasfilm, 2014https://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page
PAUL DUNCAN: And they have the moral authority to do that?
GEORGE LUCAS: Yeah. They are the most moral of anybody in the galaxy. They're monks. The Sith practice the dark side and are way of of balance. They Jedi aren't as much out of balance because they're the light side of the Force. They still have the bad side of the Force in them, but they keep it in check. It's always there, so it can always erupt if you let your guard down. The Emperor snookered the Jedi with Order 66. The nascent Rebellion and the Jedi didn't move fast enough.
GEORGE LUCAS: The Jedi won't lead droids. Their whole basis is connecting with the life force. They'd just say, 'That's not the way we operate. We don't function with nonlife-forms." So if there is to be a Republic army, it would have to be an army of humans.
~ George Lucas Interview form Star Wars Archives 1999-2005 by Paul Duncan, 2020
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Darksiders are selfish and greedy, The Jedi are selfless and compassionate.
"As evil begins to take over, it pushes the Force out of balance. It's easier to succumb to evil than it is to be a hero and try to work things through on the good side. Evil is inherently more powerful—it doesn't have the burden of worrying about other people. What Luke sees in Darth Vader at the end of ROTJ is something that I thought was worth understanding: the idea that Darth actually was a very good person. Except he's slightly more powerful than other people and when you get into that situation, your ability to do evil is much easier to come by."
"I think it is obvious that [Qui-Gon] was wrong in Episode I and made a dangerous decision, but ultimately this decision may be correct. The “Phantom Menace” refers to the force of the dark side of the universe. Anakin will be taken over by dark forces which in turn destroy the balance of the Galaxy, but the individual who kills the Emperor is Darth Vader—also Anakin. The tale meanders and both the prediction and Qui-Gon are correct—Anakin is the chosen one, and he did bring peace at last with his own sacrifice. Luke couldn't kill the Emperor himself, but he could make Anakin reflect on his life and kill the Emperor.
~ George Lucas, Cut Magazine, 1999
"The core of the Force....you've got the Lightside and the Darkside, one is selfless, one is selfish, and you want to keep them in balance. What happens when you go to the Darkside, It goes out of balance."
"..What happens when you go to the dark side is it goes out of balance and you get really selfish and you forget about everybody ... because when you get selfish you get stuff, or you want stuff, and when you want stuff and you get stuff then you are afraid somebody is going to take it away from you ... once you become afraid that somebody's going to take it away from you or you're gonna lose it, then you start to become angry, especially if you're losing it, and that anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering."
~ George Lucas, 2010
video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiImoO5QkcA - [50 second mark]
"Which brings us to films 4, 5 and 6, where Anakin's offspring redeem him and allow him to fulfill the prophecy where he brings balance to the Force by doing away with the Sith and getting rid of evil in the universe."
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The Sith were the only Darksiders around at that time.
If it was just the Sith that caused inbalance and not Darksiders persay, The Jedi in the Prequel Era [prior to discovering that Maul was indeed a Sith] would have known that the Sith never went extinct, and yet in the Prequels we know the Jedi believed that the Sith had been extinct for a 1000 years.
“The Sith are extinct, they have been for nearly a millennium”
“The thing that she says at the very end [Padme] that 'there's still good in him',as Luke says later on in Return of the Jedi, that 'there's still good in you', that's recurring, because there is and that's the one thing that will bring balance back to the Force, that little ounce of good in him, and it's his son that makes him realize that he made the wrong decision [ROTS], that the time for rationalization is over, and he needs to do the right thing which is to get rid of the Sith and bring Balance back to the Force."
~ George Lucas
Balance: Episode III - Philosophy Of George Lucas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EFzrsf_Xnw
In the Mortis Arc we see ‘Balance’ lost when the son goes fully to the Darkside [he’s only darkside leaning at first, it’s why the Father says to the Son “I forbade you from using the Darkside”.]
Dave Filoni has stated that the Father, Son, and the Daughter are not manifestations of the force or avatars, they are beings. Also, the arc is symbolic. The Father, the Son, and the Daughter all die, but the Force still exists after they are gone.
https://www.starwars.com/video/altar-of-mortis-episode-featurette
As Filoni describes it: “You have to think of this as the three entire episodes taking placing in the tree when Luke was on Dagobah.” In fact, the whole thing is a metaphor. Everything in the story is symbolic of “everything that takes place in all six Star Wars films.” And so, I truly believe it stands as George Lucas's goodbye story. "
I believe The arc symbolizes Anakin Skywalker’s life and destiny/
The Daughter says when she meets Anakin - "We are the beginning the middle and the end."
The Daughter represents his starting as a Lightsider.
The Son Represents the progression of his fall to the Darkside.
The Father symbolizes his end as a Father himself, giving his life for his Son. He becomes Luke Skywalker’s Father with his sacrifice.
Lucas has stated that Darth Vader means ‘Dark Father’ in German.
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‘How did you get the name Darth Vader?’
“Darth” is a variation of dark. And “Vader” is a variation of father. So it’s basically Dark Father. All the names have history, but sometimes I make mistakes – Luke was originally going to be called Luke Starkiller, but then I realized that wan’t appropriate for the character. It was appropriate for Anakin, but not his son. I said, “Wait, we can’t weigh this down too much – he’s the one that redeems him.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/movie-news/george-lucas-and-the-cult-of-darth-vader-247142/
Quotes from the Mortis Arc
Kenobi - "Anakin is willful and impatient and balance alludes him." [said to Qui-gons' Force Ghost]
[I doubt very much Obi-Wan meant that Anakin wasn’t using the Darkside enough. heh]
“It is only here that I can control them. A family in balance. Day with night. Destruction, replaced by creation.“ ~ The Father
[He had to take them out of the universe. He says ‘Family’, not ‘The Force’.]
‘Destruction replaced with creation.’
"It has been foretold, 'The Chosen One shall remain [on Mortis] to keep my children in balance." ~ The Father
[That’s not what the Prophecy said.]
The Father - "But, if you leave [mortis] your selfishness will haunt you and the Galaxy."
Start of Episode Alter of Mortis [2nd episode] Narriator says in the opening scene -
"The Father keeps a fragile balance between his daughter who allies with the Lightside.......and the Son who drifts ever closer to the Dark."
The Father [to the Son] "You have done what is forbidden.You have chosen the Darkside and allowed it to feed your anger and your desire for power."
"...Do not do this, Son, Do not become what you should not, be strong, I implore you.....else I will be forced to contain you."
The Son - "You look frail Father..."
The Father - "I am not dead yet.."
The Son - "Well perhaps I am Tired of waiting! [yells]
[If the Darkside was necessary for Balance The Father who was trying to maintain balance there would not have forbidden the Son to go to the Darkside, it would have been necessary for balance than. - The son falls to the Darkside when he attacks The Father, he wasn’t fully only the Darkside to start. That’s when Mortis went out of balance.]
The Daughter as she expires says to the Father - "Do not hate him [the son] it is in his nature".
The Father as the Daughter expires says "All is lost, the balance is broken"
[The Son falling to the Darkside, acting out of selfishness and greed and using the Darkside is what caused the imbalance.
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The Father - "The Darkside will consume her" - The Daughter [the lightside]
The Father - "He [The Son] will seek to leave this place [mortis] and sew terror in the universe."
The Father - “It is my actions that have unleashed great danger upon the universe. I must kill him [The Son]"
3rd Episode - 'Ghosts of Mortis'
Anakin to the Father - "What will you do? Now that he [The Son] has given himself to the Darkside?"
The Father - "It is my actions that has released great danger on the Universe. I must.....kill him."
The Father - "This place is strong with the Force, Darkness has no hold here."
The Father to the Son - "I held hope that you could resist the Darkside. I see now there is no going back."
The Father to Anakin as he dies after Anakin killed the Son - "You have brought balance to this world.”
After, The Father's form disappears. The Son's does not.
[There were no more Darksiders left on Mortis, only lightsiders [Anakin, Kenobi, Ahsoka and the Father] and Mortis went back into Balance.
The Father was not ‘Grey’. You can’t use both sides of the Force.
“The Father was able to absorb The Son's force lightning. While he was capable of fighting with his Force powers, he was no match for the dark side powers of his son.”
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Father_(Mortis)#Powers_and_abilities
“The Sith learned how to manipulate both sides of the Force, and then they fell into the trap of being corrupted by the dark side.”
~ George Lucas, Sci-Fi Online interview, 2005
George Lucas on the bottom line of Star Wars.
"The secret, ulitmately, which is the bottom line in Star Wars [ANH] and the other movies is there are two kinds of people in the world, compassionate people and selfish people. The selfish people live on the Darkside. The compassionate people live on the Lightside.
"If you go to the side of the Light you will be happy because of compassion, helping other people, not thinking about yourself, thinking about others, that gives you a joy that you can't get any other way.
Being selfish, following your pleasures, always entertaining yourself with pleasure, and buying stuff and doing stuff, you're always going to be unhappy. You'll never get to the point. You'll get this little shot of pleasure but it goes away and than you're stuck where you were before and the more you do it, the worse it gets. You finally get everything you want and you're miserable because there's nothing at the end of that road.
Whereas if you are compassionate and you get to the end of the road you've helped so many people."
https://youtu.be/RElw0dhBsOI
"The Darkside is always there, it is experienced daily by people. It's like a huge cancer, alive, festering - both a reminder of the moral state and, at the same time symptom and symbol of a very sick society"
~ George Lucas, "The Mythology of Star Wars", Joseph Campell and the Power of Myth DVD, 2001
“If you want the ultimate power you really have to go to the stronger side, which is the Dark side, but ultimately it'll be your undoing. But it's that need for power and that need for power in order to satisfy your greed to keep things and to not let go of things and allow the natural course of life to go on -- which is that things come and go -- and to be able to accept the change around you and not want to keep moments frozen forever in time."
~ George Lucas, AotC DVD commentary track [during Shmi's funeral]
"He turns into Darth Vader because he gets attached to things. He can't let go of his mother, he can't let go of his girlfriend. He can't let go of things. It makes him greedy. And when you are greedy, you are on the path to the Darkside, because you fear you're going to lose things, that you're not going to have the power you need."
~ George Lucas, Time Magazine, 2002
"Well, you have the light side - compassion, you care only about everyone else; the dark side, you care only about yourself and pleasure personally.”
~ George Lucasinterview with Newsarama.com, 2012
Dave Filoni - What George Lucas taught him about Balance in the Force
"Ultimately, the Force is an ability that can be used selflessly or selfishly and how one chooses to wield it determines whether you stand on the dark side or light. The Dark Side of the Force is manifested in our greed,desire for power, and fears. And the Light Side of the Force is propagated by selfless action, by living in balance, by overcoming our fears.
The Force naturally exists in balance; that balance is thrown out when someone chooses to give in to their fears and than spirals out of control making selfish choice after selfish choice. Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."
~ Dave Filoni, on what George Lucas taught him about the Force and Balance, 2020
Dave Filoni on what George Lucas taught him about the Force.
"Everything you need to know about the Force is in the movies, I can't say that enough...Everything recycles,cosmic force, living force, cosmic force, living force...it's all made up of the same stuff.
Our agency to use the force for ourselves creates evil, and the Darkside as something to be oppressive and destructive rather than just the natural process of life and death. And than our commitment to being selfless,giving unto others, generates kindness and happiness, togetherness and bonding and not being afraid of things outside ourselves and that is the Lightside of the Force and everyone gets along and is happier....I mean this is nothing new that I'm doing."
Dave Filoni, Rebels Season 4 Finale Q&A
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/834eup/dave_filoni_gives_deep_explanation_of_the_force/
Dave Filoni on Balance in the Force
"I think it works into what the struggle is. You want to achieve this balance or you want to become ... I think it's a natural part of it, and really the introduction of this idea of balance comes from the prequels," Filoni told ComicBook.com. "That's where the prophecy of the chosen one and 'the one who will bring balance,'as quoted by Mace Windu, really comes from. So, I find that very interesting because the prequels add a tremendous amount of depth to all these things, especially ways of the Force. The people, I don't think realize that that's where it comes from, but it's not something that's natural to the original trilogy. It's something that stems from the prequels, which added a tremendous amount to what we know about Star Wars."
"One of the fundamental things to always understand about the light side and the dark side of the Force and the intentions that drive those things are willingness or will to be selfless or selfish," he said. "From those two key points of starting grow out either in enlightenment of selflessness or greed and fear and anger and hate, and you just go spiraling down and down and down, but those are the building blocks that George [Lucas] would always talk about and I always keep trying to come back to in everything I do because if you work from that point, then actually you can tell a story with the Force."
~ Dave Filoni Comicbook.com Interview, Balance in the Force, 2017
https://comicbook.com/starwars/news/dave-filoni-explains-why-the-star-wars-prequels-are-so-important/
“In the end, it’s about fundamentally becoming selfless moreso than selfish. It seems so simple, but it’s so hard to do. And when you’re tempted by the dark side, you don’t overcome it once in life and then you’re good. It’s a constant. And that’s what, really, Star Wars is about and what I think George wanted people to know. That to be a good person and to really feel better about your life and experience life fully you have to let go of everything you fear to lose. Because then you can’t be controlled.
“But when you fear, fear is the path to the dark side, it’s also the shadow of greed, because greed makes you covet things, greed makes you surround yourself with all these things that make you feel comfortable in the moment, but they don’t really make you happy. And then, when you’re afraid of something, it makes you angry, when you get angry, you start to hate something, sometimes you don’t even know why. When you hate, do you often know why you hate? No, you direct it at things and then you hate it. And it’s hard because anger can be a strength at times, but you can’t use it in such a selfish way, it can be a destroyer then. These are the core things of Star Wars.“
~ Dave Filoni, Celebration Chicago 2019
“Friendships, honestly, trust, doing the right thing, living on the right side and avoiding the dark side,” Lucas said. “Those are the things it was meant to do.”
~ Lucas on Star Wars and what its about, 2017
https://www.polygon.com/2017/4/13/15288998/george-lucas-star-wars-celebration
"Our own ambitions can make the Force into something terrible even when our intentions might have been good. We do not always realize we are acting out of fear, or selfishness. Anakin believes he is trying to save his wife, he is afraid to lose her, he chooses to act out of fears and try to control the situation. That moment of choice, how we act and react is so important. The choice between dark and light is often subtle and not limited to the Jedi and the Sith. Everyone struggles with the balance between light and dark. The Mandolorian has a choice: do his job, find the child and hand him over to the Empire, or take this lost child in and protect it, become it's gaurdian. It is a critical choice and one that greatly impacts both their lives."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbB2ji3l7DM
"That's the whole point of Star Wars. You can be selfless, or selfish. This is what George spoke about the most. This will lift you up, this will tear you down. It's really that simple, and that's the Force in a nutshell."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLAeS6mCyYI
Question - "Surely there is harmony in both the light and the darkside? A way to control both and not be consumed by evil?'
Matt Martin [Lucasfilm Story Group] 2018 - "That sort of goes against what Star Wars is all about. The Darkside corrupts."
Matt Martin [Lucasfilm Story Group] 2019
"as George [Lucas] says, the Dark side corrupts. So one couldn't stay 'in the middle' for long. The EU isn't a great example for proper usage of the Force"
https://ibb.co/J24v9Ds
Commentor - "The Bendu is in the 'middle' of both sides. I was wondering if the Dark Side was a literal side or a corruption of the Force."
Pablo Hidalgo Reply - "We only have the Bendu's word on that. No one is in any position to set anything in stone about the Force. As it should be."
https://ibb.co/Kb9zH9H
"Remember that if a fictional character thinks something, it doesn't necessarily mean they're right."
~ Pablo Hidalgo [Lucasfilm Story Group]
"The Dark Side consumes. And there is no balance to be found in such a path."
Qui-Gon Jinn, Age of Republic: “Balance”
Matt Martin - [Lucasfilm Story Group] - 2018
*"I wouldn't consider Qui-Gon grey either [Ashoka]. They're good, light side Force users who happen to shirk some of the dogma of the Jedi Order."
"There really is no such thing as 'grey Jedi' in our stories"
-Pablo Hidalgo [Lucasfilm Story Group]
"Are 'Grey Jedi' canon or just a fan fic thing?"
Matt Martin [Lucasfilm story group] 2018 - 'Yeah its basically a fan thing. It doesn't really make sense with the way the Force works.'
https://forums.galaxy-of-heroes.starwars.ea.com/discussion/98917/are-grey-jedi-canon-official-lucasfilm-response
"The Darkside comes at a cost. That cost has to be more than "it makes me a badass."
~ Pablo Hidalgo [Lucasfilm Story Group]
"...Knowing that the film was made for a young audience, I was trying to say, in a simple way, that there is a God and that there is both a good side and a bad side. You have a choice between them, but the world works better if you're on the good side."
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Hope this helps to get a better understanding about Balance in the Force and George Lucas’s Vision of Star Wars.