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This is a visualization of an old dependency graph found within the files of the Sleeping Dogs debug build, titled simply "fp". The name most probably stands for "first playable" judging from the barebones mission structure compared to the final - suggesting it's from an early point in True Crime: Hong Kong's development - containing only act 1 and most of act 2 of the story. It also includes a wealth of scrapped content like the Alley Intervention, Three Is A Party and Interrogation favors/events, and the Listening In precursor mission RTNC.
While the mission structure in the graph was obviously a work in progress and doesn't necessarily reflect actual intent, based on what we know about cut and changed missions it still offers a glimpse into how the game's story evolved during development. Under the cut is a more comprehensive list of changes and other things to note.
First act
FPIntro is a placeholder mission that replaces the Welcome to Hong Kong and Going Under missions on the graph, although they were already being worked on and are simply disabled. Judging from its leftover staging layer FPIntro featured Wei riding around North Point in a taxi.
The missions Night Market Chase and Vendor Extortion were originally flipped in the mission structure. This must have persisted for a while because it comes up in unused dialogue.
The Popstar case is split into its own branch rather than being intervowen as a part of the main story. The Hotshot case seems to be missing entirely, as well as racing as a whole.
Stick Up And Delivery unlocked the Repo job which while similar to Tran's Deliveries in the final release still functioned somewhat differently. They might have even existed concurrently at some point, but ultimately Repo got the axe.
Debt Collection is linked to Vendor Extortion, potentially suggesting that the job's narrative purpose was originally something different.
the Minibus Racket mission unlocked the cut Bus Driver job. Vincent still refers to this in Listening In, asking "Minibus starting to make money for you?".
Loose Ends is in act 1, unlocked by a mission under the mystery abbreviation "JPC". There's nothing in the game files to indicate what this could have been. At this point in development Loose Ends most probably featured Ming instead of Naz as well since the two characters' roles were shuffled around in the final release.
One of the biggest changes in act 1 is RTNC, the Listening In precursor. Similarly to Listening In the mission had Wei spying on the Water Street Gang but featured the club as a location to bug in addition to the restaurant, and ended on Jade Gang's assault on the Golden Koi that triggers the events of Payback. RTNC still has a very fleshed out staging layer in the game's files that shows the mission made use of many scrapped game mechanics such as the social interactions system and crouching to stay hidden, which might have been the reason it ended up getting so radically scaled back in the final.
As mentioned, RTNC/Listening In originally led directly to Payback instead of having to play through Chain of Evidence first. Chain of Evidence is already present in this graph as well but linked to FPIntro instead.
The first act ends on Payback, just like in the final release.
Second act
The structure of the second act seems much less fleshed out than the first. The act still begins with the Uncle Po mission but the subsequent missions are very spread out and seem disjointed. Within the context of cut content and leftovers though it still reflects some actual story changes.
Compared to the final release, the act 2 missions Meet the New Boss and Final Kill are missing entirely. Compared to later versions of the mission structure before the final, it's also missing the act 2 iteration of Big Smile Lee and the Broken Nose Jiang mission that ended up getting entirely cut.
Missions involving Ricky and/or the Three Circles Entertainment - Fast Girls, Intensive Care and Important Visitor - are all placed earlier on in the graph than in the final, pushing the Wedding further down the arc. The movie industry subplot as well Ricky's role in the story were scaled down during development so the mission order might have been shuffled around because of that.
Bride To Be isn't unlocked by any previous mission but is still listed as a dependency for Important Visitor.
Important Visitor's placement before the Wedding is reflected in later (unfinalized) iterations of the mission structure, so its original place early on in act 2 was definitely intentional.
Intensive Care, the only mission on the graph that takes place in the third act in the final release, is for some reason dependent only on Uncle Po. Internally the mission is referred to by two names - Hospital Shootout and The Bosses Meet - so it might have been eventually combined with something else. No leftovers to explain its old placement remain so if it was initially placed there on purpose, the original narrative function of the mission is a mystery.
Initiation was seemingly intended to be played much earlier on - unlocked here after Fast Girls - while in the final release it only unlocks after Final Kill. The mission changed drastically during development and the game files still contain loads of leftovers from an older completely different iteration featuring Wei and Jackie going to the Aberdeen Market to gather ingredients for a "Virility Concoction". The mission ends at the temple like in the final, but Yung is not present at all. The placement in the graph might reflect this older probably more light hearted version of the mission.
In the final release Dockyard Heist serves as the closing mission for the second act. It's already present in the graph but has its dependencies disabled.
General notes
The graph is completely missing all transitive events like phone calls/text messages or Wei's nightmares. Only two of the Checking In cutscenes are included.
The Snitch is Caught cutscene is missing. This might be due to Ming originally (probably) surviving the events of the game, if only because he occupied Naz's role in Loose Ends at this point.
Some entries are repeated several times in the graph, namely M_JPC, PSJ4 and GNPS.
The grey "misc" entries are most probably specifically npcs, since in the final release after the Club Bam Bam mission Benny can be found in the club in freeroam.
"Triad Wars" is the internal name of the Drug Bust activity in Sleeping Dogs. No relation to the defunct game.
in the light of my previous post on Conroy's subtle gradual acceptance of Wei, when at the end of Payback Conroy says "Look. I don't do this often, but… I'm sorry. I was wrong about you" what is it that he "doesn't do often"?
guess you could just read it as an attempt at saving face, like the way i initially perceived it was something along the lines of "i'm such a hardass i don't usually admit i'm wrong". but since it's such a nakedly vulnerable moment for him - not to mention how he hesitates before apologizing - i'm leaning more towards him just admitting that he doesn't know how to say sorry instead. like he knows how badly he's fucked up, genuinely wants to make amends and doesn't want to fuck that up too
now my initial read works perfectly fine, it's something you'd expect from the character archetype Conroy represents, but "expect" is the keyword there because this character is supposed to take you by surprise in this scene. if he defies your expectations by forgoing the usual hollow posturing in favor of fully showing his belly it makes the intended impact of this moment so much more effective, and consequently Wei's strong reaction even more understandable. i mean holy shit no wonder Wei feels so fucked up over it, it's making me feel kinda fucked up
Conroy clocks Wei basically immediately as a pig like literally says so in the minibus mission but he seemingly doesn't actually tell Winston about his suspicion until Listening In. is he legitimately afraid to speak up or is it something else? Winston does have to actively goad Conroy's opinion out of him when it finally comes up and even then Conroy only agreed when Winston himself suggests it, "you think he's a cop?" he doesn't even sound that sure of himself, just saying that something's "not right"
Ming has just gotten shot right before this happens and i've always thought that cutscene's placement is weird the way it plays right before Listening In, because there's this blatant overlap between them with the characters trying to sniff out what Wei's deal is. it always felt oddly redundant and like the cutscene was intended to be played after Listening In, but maybe it's actually the way it is because it specifically plants a seed of doubt in Conroy's mind that he might actually be wrong. he already folds basically immediately during the snitch cutscene when Wei starts questioning Ming's loyalties after all - he seems to struggle with separating his personal dislike of Wei (since while "Conroy doesn't like anyone" Wei was 100% on his ass the second they met) from his perfectly justified suspicion, and the cutscene is like the culmination of that. it also seems to be the thing that ultimately tipped the scale from the latter more towards the former for him in a "oh shit i think i might've really fucked up this time" sense, in a rare moment of introspection you probably wouldn't really expect of him
i kinda dig it - it's just like Winston says, Conroy is stubborn but "he'll see it - even if he doesn't want to admit it". it subtly makes his acceptance and appreciation of Wei more gradual rather than just like an act 1 boss reward that jumps on the screen at the end of Payback. he clearly still really wants to dislike Wei until the events of Payback when he finally has to admit to himself that yeah, he did fuck up (something to be said about how Winston doesn't seem to know about any of this judging from his dialogue in Uncle Po but i digress). it's extra interesting in the way it mirrors how Wei's relationship with the crew and especially Conroy was supposed to develop, that despite him desperately trying to fight it he still ends up getting invested
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Wei as he is now never really gets over his discomfort when it comes to Conroy because he's a two-faced piece of shit pig diehard from toe to tip but old Wei? woulda been in balls deep by the end
i think Conroy's very candid about using gear while Winston absolutely is not and it's one of those things that very definitely sets them apart. Conroy just doesn't seem to have a much of a filter or really a lot of shame just in general, probably partially due to the steroid abuse itself, while Winston's definitely all about what a "real" man/triad/brother/etc. should be. all about building those self-imposed cages. juicing is definitely something he's ashamed about
man i fucking love being able to freecam properly in all cutscenes now. look at that little prick's smug face when he grabs Wei. bro really thought he was cooking
i love the idea of Conroy and Wei's dynamic post-Payback actually going somewhere because it's kinda got the gatboss vibe where there's enormous potential for them to drag each other down to hell like they make each other into even worse people, but at the same time they could just as easily help each other into becoming marginally better people too. or at least more balanced in a way. especially when it comes to Conroy's sociopathic tendencies Wei could at least get him to tone it down a bit just because Conroy tries to closely emulate people he looks up to (maybe Wei's not at the top of the pile but Conroy definitely appreciates how badass he is, he says so himself). even if he doesn't get it, maybe even can't "get it", Wei telling him that his lust for blood is fucked up could make him think about his actions a bit more if nothing else
i also think it'd be kinda rad if at some point - maybe around Meet the New Boss - Conroy just straight up quits using gear because a) after having some talks with Wei about how it's making him fucked in the head he decides shit's getting too serious to be in that kinda altered state and 2) after Payback when he thinks he was wrong about Wei he's been feeling kinda scared that he's legit going through a paranoid break, because abusing gear can cause psychosis and he's seen it happen to others. of course he should quit in the most dangerous way possible (idk what that would be with gear but going cold turkey with any addictive drug is generally not pleasant) and Wei finds out about it and is like "UHH DUDE are you OKAY"
as for what Conroy could give to Wei, sure his positive qualities can basically be counted on like two fingers but he does have one thing that Wei doesn't, namely how sincere he is. part of it's just that he's fucking stupid and his brain has been melted by gear, but i also think it he's just very candid and genuine in a way that makes Wei uneasy because he usually can't be like that. not just because that's his job, he literally doesn't know how anymore, if he ever did. now tbf it's a trait Jackie has as well but Jackie does not have the antisocial tendencies that Conroy and Wei share. it adds an unique layer of understanding between them that's missing between Jackie and Wei (you could even say that disconnect is what specifically led to Jackie's death). now obviously Conroy wouldn't actually be able to talk about any of that shit in a meaningful way but well his narrative purpose is a kind of a mirror for what Wei considers his own worst aspects. if/when he starts understanding Conroy on a deeper level, seeing him as an actual person and not just a flat representation of things he considers bad and/or shameful about himself, he also starts to understand himself better
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wonder how Wei feels about Winston getting all yoked up like that. like surely he wasn't already juicing when he was like 15 right. i so badly wish they did more with the gearhead bodybuilder thing because it's such a distinct aspect of the Boys
read some old threads on the subreddit and in one about shipping i saw ppl talk about Conroy "dominating" Wei like buddy. that boy's clearly desperately lookin for daddy to put him in his place
haha found the reddit thread about Jackie calling Conroy a cunt to his face in Vendor Extortion. he specifically says cau hai/臭閪. if it was Edison Chen doing some improv rather than something from the script it's kinda amazing because it completely redefines the kinda dynamic Conroy and Jackie have. namely it gives them one rather than just having all these characters mainly exist completely separate from each other
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Conroy's unused lines for The Funeral since he was originally gonna be in the mission along with Duke (who didn't seem to have any leftover audio for this mission though). it's just a bunch of shouting during combat but i like how very protective he is of his crew during gun fights, comes across even stronger in Civil Discord
been thinking about Duke in this mission because the only proof of him being in the Funeral is Conroy shouting out to him to keep his head down. supposedly anyways because there's absolutely nothing else, no other audio, no anims, no leftovers in any xmls etc. so i've been wondering for a while if Conroy's actually saying "dude" here instead of "Duke". i don't think it's likely because i don't think he really says "dude" just in general but idk there's something odd about the whole thing
if it was just Conroy who was gonna be present in this mission out of all the secondary WSG characters it'd also emphasize the whole potential Conroy-Wei-Jackie dynamic even further. i think that'd be very intriguing
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