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"how would the pikmin 4 rescue corps (+ others) react to Alph in Pikmin 4?"
that isnt schnauz

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Olimar could mean a number of things in the first log, and the other one could just mean that he considered the other treasures from 2 to be artifacts rather than treasure as he didn't realize they contained Sparklium.
Olimar is shocked because Spicy Spray in 2 didn't bloom flowers and he was trying to rub it off of Moss not the Pikmin.
The Gyroid Bust is a treasure from Pikmin 2. Schnauz isn't talking about regular gyroids. This means this treasure ended up on Hocotate. But how? BECAUSE OF THE EVENTS OF PIKMIN 2 OF COURSE!
Rock Pikmin have a different model in 3 and 4. Rock Pikmin in 4 are closer to their Pikmin 3 renders.
Alph and Brittany are literally mentioned lol
First part:
Comprehensive post proving definitively that Pikmin 4 isn't a reboot, retcon, what if scenario, etc. If you have any disagreements let me
Where exactly is this stated? You canβt pull the entire basis of your theory out of your ass and expect people to believe it.
A bunch of the logs are verbatim Pikmin 1.
Also, the untitled log is log 73, the very next log "The Last Push" is the first mention of the house with log 78 being when he discovers the "bunker"/safe. Similarly, the house caves are put in with the rest of the cave logs. This should imply the logs aren't in chronological order.
Olimar could mean a number of things in the first log, and the other one could just mean that he considered the other treasures from 2 to be artifacts rather than treasure as he didn't realize they contained Sparklium.
Olimar is shocked because Spicy Spray in 2 didn't bloom flowers and he was trying to rub it off of Moss not the Pikmin.
The Gyroid Bust is a treasure from Pikmin 2. Schnauz isn't talking about regular gyroids. This means this treasure ended up on Hocotate. But how? BECAUSE OF THE EVENTS OF PIKMIN 2 OF COURSE!
Rock Pikmin have a different model in 3 and 4. Rock Pikmin in 4 are closer to their Pikmin 3 renders.
Alph and Brittany are literally mentioned lol
First part:
Comprehensive post proving definitively that Pikmin 4 isn't a reboot, retcon, what if scenario, etc. If you have any disagreements let me
The mere presence of the S.S Dolphin alone proves it can't be in continuity with prior games. It was sold off at the start of 2, which happened the moment 1 ended, there is no room for another adventure between them.
In 3 Olimar is seeking out treasure with the hope of regaining the S.S Dolphin. Meaning he can't possess the S.S Dolphin between 2 and 3. And Hey shows that when he does regain the Dolphin after 3, it becomes the S.S Dolphin II. Which has a distinct design from the original.
The off brand Koppaites prove that Pikmin 3 can not have happened before 4, because when they're found it is clearly stated that Koppai is on the verge of a food crisis. Not that it was already solved by Yorke's brother. Alph and the others existing doesn't mean 3 happened.
Not to mention the opening cutscene is told from Olimar's perspective and clearly frames it as his first time on the planet ever. Louie also shows no familiarity with the Pikmin.
Lastly, the entire premise of 2 and the reason for Olimar's presence in 3 is about treasure. Pikmin 2 is the treasure hunting game, not the artifact collecting game. You can't just cite the treasure hoard from 2 and then say 2 had no treasure. Some treasures in 4 are repeats from 2 even. If you have to ignore the basic premise of 2 in both gameplay and plot as well as his entire motivation in 3 to make it in continuity with 4, maybe it simply isn't.
That's not even going into how Louie is also clearly unfamiliar with PNF 404 and the Pikmin in his voyage log, with its final entry being a nod to Pikmin 2 in a way where it's clear it didn't happen.
And a lot of these 'analyses' of Olimar's voyage log consist of contorting the words in a way that'd only make sense if Olimar was trying to deceive someone in his private voyage log later sent out in the hopes of someone saving him, or straight up making stuff up and pretending they're in the text. Olimar is describing Ultra Spicy nectar, not comparing it to past uses.
Yeah but it's obvious that Pikmin 3 is in the future. And I'm just saying it's pretty likely 1 and 2 already happened.
Olimar could mean a number of things in the first log, and the other one could just mean that he considered the other treasures from 2 to be artifacts rather than treasure as he didn't realize they contained Sparklium.
Olimar is shocked because Spicy Spray in 2 didn't bloom flowers and he was trying to rub it off of Moss not the Pikmin.
The Gyroid Bust is a treasure from Pikmin 2. Schnauz isn't talking about regular gyroids. This means this treasure ended up on Hocotate. But how? BECAUSE OF THE EVENTS OF PIKMIN 2 OF COURSE!
Rock Pikmin have a different model in 3 and 4. Rock Pikmin in 4 are closer to their Pikmin 3 renders.
Alph and Brittany are literally mentioned lol
First part:
Comprehensive post proving definitively that Pikmin 4 isn't a reboot, retcon, what if scenario, etc. If you have any disagreements let me

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Comprehensive post proving definitively that Pikmin 4 isn't a reboot, retcon, what if scenario, etc.
If you have any disagreements let me know in the replies and stuff.
Olimar's voyage log is a compilation of his current one and ones from the past games that contained entries we have and haven't read before, ordered in a non-chronogical way.
Neither Pikmin 3 or 3DX specify that they JUST discovered PNF404, only that they discovered that it had fruits on it. And why didn't they know about Pikmin in 3? Because they didn't know about it, didn't realize it was the same planet idk, but it's still explainable.
Bit crazy but maybe Hocotate Freight fell into debt again while Louie and Olimar were on PNF-404 in Pikmin 4, and the SS Shepherd let them use the treasure they collected to pay off the second debt. Making the debt in pikmin 3... the third debt lmao. Also, the SS Dolphin was sold off twice, once for the debt in Pikmin 2 and again for the debt in Pikmin 3. The president or his wife bought it back after 2, and Olimar plans to buy it for himself in 3.
THIS ALSO SOLVES THE THIRD TRIP THING! I think Olimar considers the back and forth in 1 and 2 to be one trip since they happen in such short succession of each other, 4 is a second trip and 3dx is the third trip!
Olimar is an unreliable narrator in Shipwreck Tale. When he became a leafling he forgot the events of Pikmin 1 and 2 as well, not just Pikmin 4.
This could be an older log, before the debt in 2, this is written out of order after all. Or Olimar is just laughing at the idea that they went into debt AGAIN.
This could just be an old log written before Pikmin 2 or Louie is in denial of doing it, or hell he wants to do it again
Olimar was about to talk about the space bunny incident in this dialog, in fact.
second part:
Olimar could mean a number of things in the first log, and the other one could just mean that he considered the other treasures from 2 to be
Pikmin 4: Heritage Theory
Warning for MAJOR Pikmin 4 spoilers, including: various end of day conversations, post-credit events, late game piklopedia and treasure hoard entries, and also the final boss.
As a sort of re-boot of the franchise, Pikmin 4 introduces a lot of new ideas to the series. Among them is the idea that the various alien species in the game are much more closely related than we first realized - and perhaps more connected to PNF-404 than we would have ever thought in the other three games. I wanted to go over the various texts in the game that touch on this idea and talk about them a little because, hoo boy, the IMPLICATIONS. I call itΒ a theory in the title for a lack of better wording but it honestly just feels like a canon fact that's never directly stated. There's just that much evidence, much of which all but outright says what happened.
Apologies if the images are a little low quality, Tumblr crunched them up badly. I provide image descriptions so hopefully that makes up for it.
As this has many end game spoilers (which, final warning for those), I'm going to assume that anyone reading beyond this point knows the basics of the game's story, world, and characters. Thus I won't be explaining every last little thing.
Yeah this is a great explanation. One problem, though. pikmin 4 isn't a reboot
Complete Pikmin timeline!!
PIKMIN 2 HD?!????!!!!!!
GUYS I WORK AT NINTENDO LOOK WHAT HAPPENS IN PIKMIN 4

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my favorite panel from the newest pikmin comic
if you want your PRECIOUS castaway you must defeat me and my 200 IQ
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Yea now my olimar is that one guy
Most Pikmin fans don't know that Olimar should divorce his wife and take the kids and the dog too
Before I move forward, I want it to be known that I am not condoning what she did. She fucked up! Badly! And still needs to improve in many ways. And not liking her as a result is fair enough.
But the implication that she's cruel or evil, or stating Olimar should leave her over these things is... Also a bit far, imo, and that there's a lot more complexity to this situation.
So firstly, her admitting that she fucked up in that 2nd screenshot omits the fact that she then changed her behavior. The kids immediately note this.
And there's plenty of cases where either she or Olimar state genuine love/care for each other. Many of these are in Hey!Pikmin!'s treasure notes, which I sadly don't have time to go through all 125 (!) of them at the moment but do trust me when I say they exist. But here are the two big ones I did have time to find, from Pikmin 2 and 3DX.
The endings of two of them are not great with the other context, of course. She still has some severe flaws. But she also still cares about him as a person and isn't a complete monster.
I also find it noteworthy that, due to the way pikmin 2 emails work, you'll only get the story line of her becoming meaner if you (1) save Louie before recovering all of the treasure, (2), let 9 more days pass after that without recovering all of the treasure. That's on top of however many days it took for pikmin 1 to happen, the debt to be repaid, AND to rescue Louie. I'm not saying this as an excuse, it's not, but it does add another layer of complexity to this situation.
It's also worth mentioning here that she did try to get a job in pikmin 2, only for younger people to be hired instead of her. Just more evidence that's she's genuinely trying and is struggling for a multitude of reasons.
Obviously it's fine if people still hold this opinion of her. I'm not trying to gatekeep the fan base or whatever. I just feel it's only fair to provide this extra context because without it we loose out on a lot of nuance in the situation, and that lack of detail leading people to then vilify her is just something that irks me a lot, more so with how common such things are in fandom in general (as in, this isn't a phenomenon unique to the pikmin fandom).

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And thus Louie lost the golden carrots in grief