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I think that the phenomenon described by the original meaning of the word transandrophobia, i.e. the way fear and discomfort around masculinity can negatively effect transmaculine people, is a real issue worth talking about. It's not however, an intersectional phenomenon and it is far from the only way transmaculine people are harmed by transphobia.

Not a lesbian, not a trans woman. Thanks for your input, sir.

I think the conversation about transmisogyny in lesbian communities would benefit from more focus on efforts to actively include transfeminine people rather than the transmasculine people also exist in those communities. Not to say that transmasc lesbians aren't ever part of the problem. There are undoubtedly transmisogynist transmasculine lesbians. However the inclusion of transmaculine people in lesbian communities is not inherently a cause of transfeminine lesbians being excluded.

hi! I like your idea of doing a pictureless repost of the twitter selfie post. I agree, it's not good to keep spreading the selfies used in such a way. But may I suggest a slightly different approach: Remove the link (since it's still circulating the selfies this way, just one click away), but instead include the screenshot, just with the photos fully blacked out. (Maybe a text like "two selfies of a happy and confident transmasculine person with top surgery scars" on top of the blackout?). I think that would give enough context to let it stand on its own without circulating the photos. Just a thought! :) thx

Reposting screenshots of this post without the pictures attached. For context the terf in the twitter screenshot is talking about a trans man's post top surgery selfies. I'm reposting because I think continuing to spread pictures that were stolen and used to degrade someone isn't really on but I agreed with what the op wrote and what to reblog it without the stolen pics. You can find the op's blog here

The thing is, it can be hard to square "you are not oppressed for being a man" with a lived experience of enduring transphobic abuse for asserting one's manhood and masculinity. The logic being "I am oppressed for being trans, I am a man because I am trans, me being a man is part of the reason I am oppressed." This is a hard thing to unpick I think. Because men are not an oppressed class. Even men with other marginalized identities benefit to some extent from being men. And this does also apply to trans men. But so many of us have experiences being punished and abused for our masculinity. So in my opinion it is easy to see how people can latch onto misandry as a cause of that abuse. The cause of course is not misandry, it's transphobia, but it is specifically anti-transmasculine transphobia which is something I feel we are still struggling to fully describe and understand. This incoherence leaves room for people struggling to understand the pain and abuse they are enduring to come across a term like transandrophia and feel that the concept brings clarity to the hurt and confusion caused by anti-transmasculine transphobia.

Growing up it was impressed upon me in both direct and indirect ways that one of the worst things you could be was "attention seeking". Doing anything purely to get attention was selfish, disruptive, dishonest, and embarrassing. Now as an adult it is clear to me that "seeking attention" is an accusation leveled at any young person stepping out of line or out of the norm. This is especially applied to young people assumed to be girls. Misogyny, which so often tells those affected by it that they do not know themselves or their bodies compounds on the assumption that young people do not know themselves or their bodies either. The result is that teenage girls and those assumed to be teenage girls are not believed when they report their own experiences and are constantly accused of making those experiences up for attention. This applies to physical and mental illness, harassment, sexual violence, disability, sexual orientation, and the thing I specifically want to highlight in talking about this: gender identity.

The thing about transmaculine invisibility that it does afford us some level of cushioning. We tend to be less targeted by the overt vitriol of the general transphobic masses. It does sometimes benefit us to be forgotten. However it this cuts both ways. So often the bigotry and abuse we do receive is ignored or downplayed. People will confidently state that a certain facet of transphobia never effects us or that we are never in danger of violence. This makes it harder to talk about the transphobia we experience and to have that transphobia taken seriously. So often we have to get over the first obstacle of "oh I didn't know that happens to transmascs" or straight up "that doesn't happen to transmascs".

A good deal of anti-transmasculine bigotry is rooted in the societal aversion to women or "women" with traits deemed too masculine by society. This is a place where anti-transmasculinity and transmisogyny rub up against each other. The difference being that trans men are not actually women and don't experience the intersection of misogyny and transphobia in the way transfemine people do. However the way we are treated is directly related to the way women considered too masculine are treated because of how often we are viewed as and lumped in with women.

An underrated anti-transmasculine sentiment is the idea that we are overrepresented and overrunning communities. There is too much transmasc art, often with with the implication or outright statement that such art is cringe and trite. There are too many transmasc headcannons and here's why those headcannons are problematic. This irl queer space has too many transmascs and so is not worth being part of. This genre or interest has been ruined by too many transmascs enjoying it. The implication that our representation is inherently squeezing out other demographics just by existing.