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so... anyone else watched the end of Kyo's Hetaoni gameplay?
all that info changed my view on this game. solved questions that little bunny inside me had for years. gave me an ending and plot that i could've only ever dream of.
hetaoni is one of the reasons i am in this fandom. i hold it so dear to me, and i am so shocked but happy at the same time for this information. i am so very thankful
and, now, i just hope you enjoy a guy lost in the void.
Semi-active on Tumblr these days, but this seriously brought me back to type up a frenzy since I don't think this was on anyone's 2025 bingo card...but after 15 years since the discontinuation of HetaOni, we actually got words from Kyokoon64, who said that on 2014, she spoke to the creator of HetaOni, Tomoyoshi, on what was planned for HetaOni Part 17-20, along with the rough plan of the "ending" for the series. The video is here on Twitch and the talk starts from 2:30:00 onwards.
Disclaimer: This is a rough summary of what I heard from the video. I'm going to listen to the talk about it one more time and polish the summary up when i have the chance.
Also, it seems Tomoyoshi was fine with whatever ending the fans made up and whether you accept her rough idea of her ending or not. All endings of HetaOni are valid.
Well then...shall we?
Just a heads up, Tomoyoshi just planned things as it came along, not really having an outline of what she planned, so...
What was supposed to happen after Part 17-1?
Italy is actually in a perfect dream with HRE, but Italy doesn't want to be part of a dream where everything is alright when everyone in the real world is suffering, so he wants to leave.
Russia and China are in the annexe, where China feels a draft in the wall (which leads to the deeper rundown part of the mansion from the original Ao Oni games) and he also hears Russia talking to someone on the phone. Still don't know what's up with that (revealed in ending plan).
When two head back to the safe room, China is extra quiet upon his return, just when Italy wakes up after rejecting the dream and tells everyone around him what happened
Meanwhile, in timeline 2, Romano calls Spain a dumbass for telling England everything, but things happen where that timeline's England runs into our!Italy, our!Germany and our!America in the piano room and the whole putting a shield on them and sending them back to their timeline happens, but he also sends Spamano back to their timeline too and also gives them some things to hold onto when they leave.
Something like a magically sealed item that holds most, if not all, of England's magic, but it would still be difficult to just regain all his magic and cure his blindness so easily.
And also there's a bloody envelope given to Romano a bloody envelope but don't open it yet (need to double check)
Turns out both America and Canada can do magic since they were once under England, and together with Japan, who can perform seals and use talismans, help to break the seal on the item with England's magic inside
Seal is broken and England regains a bit of his eyesight, but America celebrates anyway
Meeting happens and the nations talk about finding the key to do front door to escape. Romano is quiet
Romano talks to Italy and dramatic things happen because of the envelope
Romano read the stuff in the envelope it seems, and it's a letter from an England who also got blinded, but still able to see a tiny bit to write this out (double check). Emotional message to America, and the letter ends with England admitting that America was his hero and he's glad to have raised him.
Oh and uuuuuuuuuh...the envelope also has the key to go out, but they can't leave yet (like they have to break the clocks…and more insidious to uncover).
That's what I got from the talk. I'll try and polish this up! But the "ending" for series is clear, and this is what Tomo really wanted to happen...
So what's the ending?
First of all, it turns out Tomoyoshi made RomaHeta as well? Don't know if anyone remembers it, but basically another HetaGame where everyone's sucked into a game made by Japan but a virus trapped the nations inside it. It was popular because of Italy and Romano became badass priests for the boss fight.
Now brace yourselves, my dears. Because it turns out...
This timeline was meant to fail! ✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧
Also, it turned out Spain and Romano came to the mansion in previous timelines too, but hey this is the furthest they got (don't ask how Italy and Romano don't remember).
But the biggest plot twist of all is this!
HetaOni is actually a sequel to RomaHeta!
Everyone in HetaOni is just still trapped in the game and the previous timelines are just save files!
Also the Things are just amalgamations of various viruses, while HRE is an antivirus that is trying to save Italy (you know that explains why he just appeared in RomaHeta for that one second when Italy went berserk with magic...)
And Prussia getting the intrusive thoughts of CONGRATULATIONS in the game was because he's literally hearing the victory music cheer thing you get after you defeat a boss in an RPG.
Also, fun fact but not very clear? Not all of the nations are inside the game. The ones that are in the game in their place are actually AIs who are just repeating the original nation's speech patterns and actions based on the previous save files (not sure what Kyo meant by sometimes or other times it's the nations or AIs).
The phone calls Russia kept getting are actually from the mods.
Now the planned ending is that the nations got to the root of the program and after finding it, but they could get out. However, Italy realised something (?), and in the end just sets everyone free, but he got the Aqua from KH: BBS treatment and had his soul lost in the void while everyone else returned to the real world.
Thus this is the ending that was meant to make way for Part 3 of the series of the fangames. First RomaHeta, then HetaOni, then...whatever supposed to happen afterwards.
The end
And that's that! Just a reminder tho that Kyo said Tomoyoshi doesn't mind if no one accepts the ending. I just thought to share it by typing out the summary and ending from the stream. Heck, Tomoyoshi thinks no one will believe Kyo anyway. All endings everyone else made is just as valid, and sharing this is for those who cherished HetaOni from a long time ago and can now rest from learning what was meant to happen.
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Your admin is back from the dead, with a question. 7 years later, many things happened in my life and now has come the time for me to reconsider something.
Would you like a 2023/2025 remake of Cookie's HetaOni?
Yes!
No!
Voting ended onMay 3, 2023
The new version would probably be a lot less glitched than the first and second versions, it would have possibly more/new art (I have improved a lot over the years, thankfully) and, I don't know, who knows what more I could add/change to make it more fun?
If possible, I ask you to please reblog this post so I can get as many answers as possible. I am now an adult with many responsibilities, so I only have so much time to spare.
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An Archive of Our Own, a project of the
Organization for Transformative Works
No fancy post this time, since I'm in a rush to get this out here. Chapter 3 will be out as soon as I finish it, Chapter 4 will be out shortly after Chapter 3, and Chapter 5, the finale, will be out on the 23rd.
less than 30 days until the anniversary. getting my old drafts of the later chapters back into ao3 has been a pain (it was a pain the first time also, all the particular formatting makes it tedious) but since we're less than 30 days out and im going to be posting them before or on the anniversary and no later, there's no worry about them getting deleted after 30 days anymore.
the last two chapters are 100% complete (as they have been for. a long time) and the two chapters before that have bits and pieces that still need to be written, basically as i outlined the last time i made an update like this. im just aiming for bare-bones "point a to point b" at this point and anything else is extra; i will not have the last two chapters delayed past the anniversary because the middle two don't want to cooperate. the last two chapters should more than hold together even if the foundation leading up to them is... not weak, but not as strong as it could be.
as for what happens after, i think im gonna leave this blog be for a while, though my inbox will remain open if anyone has anything interesting to add. if i do get ideas for future stuff, though, well. i'll be here. and if anyone else finds ruins i don't already have (or if i find anything) ill always reblog those.
Part 782 (the link is real, but dead) was a chapter of Snakeskins written and posted, IIRC, around the 100s or so in Snakeskins. (It was definitely written some time before Part 108 was posted, but that's about as much as I can say on the timeline offhand.) It was a complete chapter of Snakeskins, but was titled "Part 782" as a hyperbolic way of expressing "this is supposed to be near the end of the story". It was written, again IIRC, because Sunny wanted to write EngIta, but Snakeskins itself was in no position to justify it in the present.
Unfortunately, it was only ever posted on Tumblr, and unlike with Final Loop's original chapter 3 (which I still have to figure out how best to post for this blog), I did not unintentionally create an archival copy of it via saving the page in my phone. As far as I'm aware, 782 is lost to the internet forever after Sunny deleted her blog, if not to the entire world - Sunny may or may not still have a copy of it, but IIRC she had computer trouble at one point and lost a bunch of her old writing.
Approximate plot summary under the cut. I'm probably forgetting a bunch of things, but I remember a fair amount of specific details.
The chapter started off from England's POV. It began with a vague summary of then-future events surrounding what was then equivalent to the events of 172 and the rest of the fallout arc with several key differences. For reasons that are too long to explain here, the end of Snakeskins went through several major plot changes between the time 782 and 172 were written and posted, so while the bones of the fallout arc were likely near-identical, a lot of things surrounding them would have been very, very different. Here are a few of the differences that I can remember:
It would've taken place in 7th year instead of 5th, though this is much more of a nitpick.
It was specifically emphasized in the opening that the three-way treaty between England, Italy, and Norway had not been broken during the aforementioned events. IIRC, it was also mentioned that it was unable to be broken without specifically all three of them together deciding to get rid of it - more like a "magical law of the universe" than a "strong suggestion backed up with the threat of two or more very angry nations taking turns wringing your neck" as it ended up in 171-173. This resulted in them being prevented from explaining the situation to anyone, as whenever they tried, the golden light from the treaty would physically prevent them from doing so.
Something very horrible had happened to Italy that caused him to either drop out of or cut contact with England, Norway and basically everyone else for several months. It's implied to almost be slightly worse than Sunny's notes for the fallout arc, but it was never explicitly described what happened (because it would've been spoilers).
England is tired and sad and extremely heartsick after months of no contact from Italy, who he thinks is mad at him. Eventually, England gets in contact with Romano, who tells him that Veneziano is "back", though mostly isolated and currently working at a shipyard in Venice. England makes plans to head to Venice, and IIRC Romano says something about how he'll pass it along to Veneziano that he's coming.
England gets to Venice and somehow figures out how to stay in Veneziano's apartment off Piazza San Marco. (I don't remember how he did it and it barely matters in any case.) England had hoped that Veneziano would meet him there or anywhere along the way to get there, but he didn't. England assumes that he's still mad at him and goes to sleep sad and exhausted.
The next morning, he wakes up late (around noon) and trudges into the main room to see that someone has left two small stacks of Euro coins and a restaurant menu with circled recommendations on the kitchen counter. He goes to the restaurant, which is nearby in the Piazza, and orders the recommended meal and wine; the total comes to exactly the amount of money that was left with the menu. He stays for a while, hoping that Veneziano might show up, but he doesn't.
(It's possible that I'm forgetting several things that happen in between the previous bit and this next bit - I want to say another day and a night with another odd overnight occurrence? But I obviously don't remember for sure.)
Later, after another day and a night (complete with another odd overnight occurrence that suggests Veneziano is entering and exiting the apartment repeatedly just to stay out of England's sight), England is upset. He's just like "fuck this, I'd rather be drunk and miserable than sober and miserable" so he goes out to procure some alcohol. He finds a local wine store, asks the person up front for recommendations of "the worst wine in Italy", and is immediately thrown out. Not to be deterred, he takes a day trip to Austria to hit up a store there, and successfully procures a bottle of dogshit Venetian wine, which he thinks is the perfect change in strategy to force Veneziano to show his face - instead of being miserable and apologetic, try to piss him off.
Late at night, he finally makes it back to the apartment to find that someone has decorated it with "a galaxy of candles" on the floor and counters, with a further trail of even more tea lights and rose petals leading into the bedroom, where he finds the bed covered in rose petals and roses and more candles decorating various parts of the room.
England is now very, very upset. He heads back to the main room and immediately starts drinking himself out of his misery. He tries the dogshit Venetian wine first, and is surprised to find that it is dogshit. He then breaks into Veneziano's personal wine cabinet to get something to try mixing with it to make it drinkable, but he finds that there is no saving the horrible wine. So he drinks the whole bottle of good wine, abandons the bottle of awful wine on the floor, goes back into the bedroom, and cries himself to sleep.
The next section shifts to Veneziano's POV as he waltzes into the apartment several hours later - it's mentioned that many of the tea lights have burned out. He finds the abandoned wine bottles and physically cringes when he reads the label of the awful wine. He then steps quietly into the bedroom to find England asleep. Veneziano wakes him up, and the two of them probably would've begun a Talk About Things that would've been a hypothetical 783.
Realized im still obsessed with this fic (fuck jkr tho) and wanted to share my most complete version of it. ignore the unfinished table of contents this has all chapters published as of feb 2023 plus bonus ending from sunnys now deleted blog. some names have been adjusted by me, two bc sunny changed them in the rewrite, one bc i got attached, sorry.
the file is massive btw give it a while to load
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