All Phantom related stuff will be in this post including all released Chapters,character breakdowns and other silly stuff related to DP. Last post was getting kinda big so I figured I'd make some adjustments.
#PHANTOM AU
Au following an 18 year old version of Dan who gets his powers after a failed lab experiment.
Season One
AO3 link to the fic.
#CANON MEETS FANON
Characters from the canon version of the show interacting with my fan made versions of them
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Might have to do another dp rewatch again just cuz
But every so often i do wish Danny Phantom was more serialized and less of a villain of the week type show.
Cuz imagine how much more terrifying it would be if Vlad was just this looming presence over the course of season 1 only for Danny to face him face to face in the season finale
Setting up the fight knight and the ghost king
Or even freakshow so that his 2 appearances in the show feel way more impactful.
Also yeah that's another thing because we have a villain of the week format that rotates some villains really do just get 1 or 2 appearances and then vanish.
Like spectra has like 2 or 3 episodes and then only appears in the background.
Same with Ember.
Poindexter was one and done tbh
I can’t remember correctly but I think technus sorta just dies??
I remember doing an entire post on here where i took the important episodes and made it arc focused so i think imma do that again at some point.
practically! He was trapped in a computer game in episode 12 of season 1, and was never let out until season 2. And between that time, there were two ghost invasions. One where all the villains were there (reign storm), and technus was just...not here lol
Last post about dynamite ben10 for the month that is unless i decide i wanna talk about it again.
But after reading those first 3 issues numerous times I will say issue 1 is by far the weakest one by alot like it obv had alot of heavy lifting to do but after seeing issues 2 and 3 that first issue definitely needed to cook more. Not that i think its bad but it's definitely the weakest of the bunch Especially when it comes to the art since it does seem like with the exception of max, rozum and krabb everyone else got a design overhaul by the 3rd issue.
Also they need to stop trying to cram so many transformations in each issue. Like it's fine to just have 1 alien show up every now and again.
But yeah thats just something i noticed, the book itself also reads alot better when u read all the issues back to back(which makes sense cuz it is one story) but seeing how the book is monthly and each issue is about 22 pages i think they definitely need to sort of make the individual issues more exciting so that it feels more rewarding to read them monthly. Since the next arc is only 2 issues that will definitely be a bit more of a rewarding experience cuz you're not waiting a month for 1/3 of a story.
But I also think like they shouldn't be afraid to also have single issue stories here and there. To really shake things up every no and again.
Might have to do another dp rewatch again just cuz
But every so often i do wish Danny Phantom was more serialized and less of a villain of the week type show.
Cuz imagine how much more terrifying it would be if Vlad was just this looming presence over the course of season 1 only for Danny to face him face to face in the season finale
Setting up the fight knight and the ghost king
Or even freakshow so that his 2 appearances in the show feel way more impactful.
Also yeah that's another thing because we have a villain of the week format that rotates some villains really do just get 1 or 2 appearances and then vanish.
Like spectra has like 2 or 3 episodes and then only appears in the background.
Same with Ember.
Poindexter was one and done tbh
I can’t remember correctly but I think technus sorta just dies??
I remember doing an entire post on here where i took the important episodes and made it arc focused so i think imma do that again at some point.
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So if it wasn't obvious by now I do like both of these ships a great deal and plan to use both of them in my AU in some capacity. How imma do that remains to be seen but I can promise you it won't be by any sort of 2 timing or anything like that.
It's as simple as people in their late teens and young adults date different people at times and thats normal.
But one of my irl friends asked about their dynamics so I wanted to make a post of it.
In simple terms Danny and Sam are more like Peter and MJ whereas Danny and Ember are Peter and Black Cat. Not literally of course but thats the best description.
Danny and Sam are in for lack of a better word "safe" not in the sense that I don't imagine their relationship with conflict but more in the sense that they feel at home with each other. They're awkward teen/young adult love with the will they won't they and obliviousness that comes with it.
But
Danny and Ember is a more again for lack of a better term "exciting" pair. They're not toxic but they're trouble makers while Sam and Danny provide a safe space for each other Ember and Danny provide a space for each other to let loose. Ember is way more direct in her approach with Danny and cuz of that it forces him to be more direct as well.
They both have their pros and cons and none of them are defined by their relationships. Moreso they define them.
Sam and Danny relate on the human side of things and while neither of them shy away from their supernatural parts they still don't understand them well enough to lead with them.
Sam still hasn't exactly figured out what she is after her merger with dora and Danny is still trying to figure out where Phantom fits in with his human life. So they drown themselves in normalcy.
Ember and Danny relate on the spectral side of things almost ignoring the idea of humanity.
Ember hasn't been human for many years , she barely has fond memories of when she was alive and chooses to ignore it and Danny uses Phantom as an excuse to avoid his problems in the human world because why deal with your troubles when you can fly above them.
Remember when I said they were due for a redraw? Well i actually did redraw them and just forgot about it until recently so here's chaotic gf x easily annoyed bf the return.
I think what I'm most proud of are the colors ngl.
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Note:"In my au Vlad is also just called Vlad so to distinguish imma just call my Vlad Vladimir since Technically that is his full name"
Vlad:"So you're me from an alternate reality eh?"
Vladimir:"I suppose so...have to say you're not exactly what I imagined...."
Vlad:"what do you mean?"
Vladimir:"It's just I never pictured another me to be soooo........ theatrical."
Vlad:"what do you mean, theatrical?"
Vladimir:"you're wearing eyeliner....."
Vlad:"....no I'm not..."
Vladimir:"Yes you are...."
Vlad:"well umm even if I am so are you!"
Vladimir:".....the skin under my eyes was permanently darkened after my accident I just look like this now."
Vlad:"Permanent eyeliner....damn thats convenient.... wait you mentioned your accident does that mean you also got your powers...."
Vladimir:"In a prototype ghost portal accident thanks to Jacks negligence? Yeah...
Vlad:"and were you also hospitalized for seven years with neither Jack and Maddie coming to visit you?"....
Vladimir:"I beg your pardon?"
Vlad:"are you saying that you weren't hospitalized?"
Vladimir:"Yes I was hospitalized but for a few months not 7 years."
Vlad:"Only a few months!? You lucky bastard! "
Vladimir:"and Jack never visited you?"
Vlad:"no, I didn't see Jack again until 20 years later and by then he simply assumed that enough time had passed that I'd have forgiven him."
Vladimir:"wait...did he never even apologize?"
Vlad shakes his head.
Vladimir:"wow, your Jack sounds like..."
Vlad:"a total ass? Yes yes he is upon our reunion 20 years after his accident one of the first things he did was tackle me.."
Vladimir:".....in a romantic way?"
Vlad:"what? in a he's a 6ft5 300 pound man trying to play touch football sort of way!"
Vladimir:"that doesn't answer my question..."
Vlad:"I'm starting to think me and my Jack have a very different relationship than whatever it is you two have going on in your dimension."
Vladimir:"well me and Jack actually don't have any sort of relationship,he stopped ghost hunting after my accident and we haven't spoken in years."
Vlad:"incredible does that mean young Daniel doesn't have ghost powers in your world."
Vladimir:"no he does..."
Vlad:"well that just doesn't add up, but I suppose different scenarios are capable of yielding similar results in this vast multiverse."
Vladimir:"glad to see despite your clearly theatrical upbringing you still share my brilliance."
Vlad:"shut up!"
Vladimir:"but seven years is incredible, how did you manage to keep Plasmius at bay for so long?"
Vlad:"what do you mean?"
Vladimir:"after the accident, did your ghost half not also manifest itself into a separate personality that harbored all your negative traits and hidden trauma?"
Vlad:"what!? No! I just turn blue and get pointy hair."
Vladimir:"wait so you had full control the entire time? No burning people with ecto rays or almost killing your own father?"
The Ghost assailant gave Plasmius a quizzical look but didn't let the emergence of a new opponent concern him.
Ghost: “You think just because you can change your appearance that that worries me?”
Plasmius lets out a chuckle.
Plasmius:”You should be worried, I've been waiting for days for that idiot to let me stretch my legs.”
He flashes the ghost a sinister grin.
Plasmius:”and now that I've gotten the chance, I'm gonna savor it.”
Ghost:”you talk big game, I hope you can back it up!”
He lunges at Plasmius with a set of rapid fire punches but Plasmius easily evades each attack with minimal effort.
Plasmius:”wow you're so slow,I can’t believe that coward Vlad actually ran from you.”
Ghost:”to hell with you!”
The ghost opens his mouth and a beam of red energy surges out and hits Plasmius dead on burning the right side of his face.
Ghost:”Too easy!”
Plasmius:”not as easy as you'd like!’
Ghost:”what!?”
The ghost is horrified to find Plasmius back on his feet and completely healed from the last attack.
Plasmius:”you almost had me with that one good shot!”
Ghost:”what the…what the hell are you!?”
Plasmius zooms at the ghost and clotheslines him into a nearby wall.
Plasmius:”I'm Plasmius and I'm the last thing you will ever see!”
Ghost:”die!”
He fires a blast which Plasmius easily deflects and follows up with a swift kick to the ghost's jaw. He follows up by grabbing the ghost by his tail and slamming him into the ground leaving a spot of green slime on the floor.
Plasmius:”huh, I thought you would be sturdier than that, guess you were all talk.”
Ghost:”like hell I am!”
The ghost hops back on his feet unphased by Plasmius' last attack and uses his telekinesis to levitate all the furniture in the house at Plasmius crushing him.
Ghost:”you better stay down!”
But he did not.In a burst of blinding red energy Plasmius had managed to destroy all the furniture that binded him and now he was free.
Ghost:”Dammit you're persistent, You need to be put down for good!”
Plasmius:”Comeon and try me, you Halloween reject!”
Ghost:”Shut up!!”
The ghost hated how Plasmius spoke to him, how he seemingly undermined the threatening aura that he worked so hard to establish for himself and that's what Plasmius wanted he wanted him angry,he wanted him frustrated because he knew all it took was for his opponent to make one decision made out of anger to completely turn the tide of the battle in his favor.
Plasmius:”you seem frustrated..Am I getting under your skin?”
Ghost:”Go to hell!”
The ghost lunges at Plasmius and seizes the half ghost by his shirt collar before flinging him at a nearby wall, luckily for Plasmius he turned intangible just in the knick of time and was able to avoid the impact by passing through the wall.
Plasmius:”damn that was close….”
Ghost:”Not close enough!”
He forms a lasso out of his own ecto energy and wraps it around Plasmius's throat.
Plasmius:”what the…”
The Ghost swings Plasmius overhead before tossing him through the ceiling causing him to land on the second floor.
Ghost:”had enou..”
But before he could finish his sentence a massive ecto blast shot through the second floor, knocking back the ghost and resulting in the entire second floor of the building crashing down a feat that surprised even Plasmius himself.
Plasmius:"I was unaware that I had that much energy reserved,so this is what a ghost is capable of…I'm impressed.”
He turns over to the ghost who was slowly regenerating from his last attack and flashed him a devious grin.
Ghost:”What the hell are you smiling at!?”
Plasmius:”I'm gonna burn you away.”
He extends his hands outward and from his palms erupted 2 powerful beams of red ecto energy. The beams destroyed the ghost leaving nothing left, but it didn't stop there it broke through the walls of the building and the next one and the next one by the time the beam had faded Plasmius had managed to destroy every building on the block and had reduced the building that they were fighting in to rubble.
Plasmius:”Dammit, I overdid it.”
Not wanting to be caught he fled the scene quickly before giving back control to Vlad.
Vlad:”What the hell was that!?”
Plasmius:”that was our potential.. “
Vlad:”No that wasn't! That was all you, I had no say in any of that..”
Plasmius:”Thats good,with the way you handle stressful situations we'd probably be dead now if up to you..”
Vlad rolled his eyes.
Vlad:”shut it…”
Plasmius:”you know I'm right,so why deny it..”
Vlad:”I don't have to admit anything to you.”
Plasmius:”whatever you say..”
They made their journey back home with Plasmius staying silent throughout the entire which Vlad thought to be a much welcomed change.
He was all but through his apartment door when his phone began ringing,the color ID flashed “Dad”.
Vlad:”Really don't want to deal with him right now..”
With a swift motion he cuts off the call and collapses onto his bed falling asleep.
To be continued….
After weeks! New Plasmius chapter out, things have been hectic and I been hella burnt out so I can't guarantee that imma be uploading chapters regularly again but at least we got this one. Just a small action chapter nothing crazy. Like I said this isn't an action series so don't expect alot of climactic battles or anything like that. This fic is in essence about Vlad's mental state and trauma upon first receiving his powers. But I've yapped enough, thanks for reading hope you enjoyed.
And something I really try to showcase in my au is how the people around these 2 shaped how they used their powers.
Cuz it's no secret that the scenarios around how they got their powers shaped them into who they were meant to be.
Vlad both in Canon and my Au has his accident and he's completely alone through the entire ordeal, no family no friends noone who could ever hope to understand what he was going through , he's lonely then that loneliness turns to bitterness and then to resentment until finally it evolves into hate. Add to the fact that canon Vlad doesn't speak to Jack for 20 years after his accident and never reconciled with him while also fully believing that he's right for feeling and behaving the way he does and you can see why he ends up the way he does. Although he makes use of them to Vlad these powers aren't a gift they aren't a blessing they're a curse, a reminder of how he lost everything he held dear and how he'll never get that back. He has no Tucker and Sam to protect, to give him confidence or to steer him into using them in a positive direction. In the end Plasmius is nothing more than the manifestation of one mans loneliness and how he lashes out because of it. Of course you can make an argument that Vlad was always a bad person but we're gonna ignore that for now.
Now compare that to Danny.
Danny in both canon and my AU gets his powers and immediately he has his friends at his side and they're the ones doing the utmost best to keep him on the straight and narrow. Sam admonished him when he uses his powers for the wrong reasons,and he is constantly trying to do the right thing because he has a support system that he wants to do right by. Danny rarely if ever looks at his powers as a burden cuz even in moments where he wants to he has his friends by his side reassuring him that his powers are the coolest thing ever. Even in season 3 we see that he gets to a point where he actually likes heroics. Unlike Vlad these powers didn't strip Danny of his life they just added a new layer to it. Jazz tells him how proud she is of him, he's getting more confident and Even Jack and Maddie who hate his hero persona and are questionable parents have shown time and time again that they love their son no matter what.
And idk I just find that duality so interesting.
Cuz deep down Vlad is a miserable man who tries to hide it with his money and schemes and villainous bravado. While Danny lives a somewhat happy life..but often doesn't realize it because of all the external factors around him as well as teen angst.
No #s for this one, you gotta be one lucky sunnova gun to see this.
Deadass being a hyper fan of a media that you like fucking sucks (for me atleast). Because the one thing i wish i could tolerate is negativity. Imma fan of dragon ball, one piece, bleach, Devil may cry, Avatar the last airbender, etc. any hate towards them doesnt move me as much. Hell being a fucking sonic fan the hate doesnt move me either (but only by a little bit depending on the topic) and i like sonic more than them.
But you know what does? Ben 10! Being a hyper fan of ben 10 SUCKS! I would LOATHE seeing any negativity towards anything about that franchise. Granted its inevitable but i dont wanna see it. Even for this damn comic i cant stand it, makes me wanna be less of a fan than i already am. Maybe even step away from ben 10.
Maybe doing so will help lessen the sensitivity i have for seeing anything negative about ben 10. But even then idk if i could. Something tells me its due to the fact that ben 10s future (atleast in my eyes) is still somewhat questionable.
I mean aside from this comic we have a ttrpg coming out, there was some leaked concept arts back in feb, and thats it. We dont know whats next for ben, which for some it could be obv like another show but we dont know that.
I think thats where the sensitive to negativity is coming from. Bens future not being certain and worried that future or current content wouldnt do well. Other franchises like tmnt, dragon ball and ESPECIALLY sonic have futures even if the content ends up "bad". Ben 10? I really dont fucking know. Im not saying im losing hope but rather... im feeling perplexed maybe? Idk, thats the closest to what im somewhat feeling.
With DB, Atla and tmnt they're pretty much guaranteed to keep going even with the recent aang movie leak they stilll have more animated content on the horizon and outside of animated content there are still a bunch of comic books ,graphic novels and YA novels coming out.
Tmnt keeps getting new iterations
One piece still hasn't ended.
And DB is gonna keep getting new shit forever probably.
But Ben10 has been so mishandled that it deadass feels like any new piece of media that doesn't get overwhelming positive reception will just be unceremoniously canceled.
They did it with OV and despite the reboot doing well they still eventually canceled.
Ben10 should be CNs golden child but they treat it so horribly that it's hard to feel like new content isn't just gonna disappear.
Even the leaked series that has allegedly been in production since February 2024 despite that being a glimmer of hope for new animated Ben10 is hard to get excited about cuz WB aren't against just shelving whole projects.
It's why the dynamite series making such waves is such an amazing thing cuz you can definitely tell that dynamite knows that Ben10 is their money maker which is why they don't waste a second announcing reprints and shit and it's nice to see but it's also kinds difficult to fully enjoy it since despite all the positvity around the book the internet seems dedicated in showing us people hating and nitpicking it.
Thats what sucks about it! Like its been going so well but the doubt is still there. The sales are going well, the reviews are going well too. But there'll always be negativity and its natural for that to happen and im just...trying to not see any of that. See this is why im not built for the internet man 😭 its the hate (and while its always gonna happen, avoiding it is sometimes hard).
Sometimes i wish i could swap my undying love for ben 10 for sonic instead, cuz sonics my 2nd fav
It's why i try so hard to not engage in fandom spaces outside of tumblr and I try to avoid most topics surrounding the comic.
Cuz the negativity is just so annoying and literally just boils down to personal preference cuz the book truly has done as offensive as these guys would have people believe.
It just hasn't been super exciting up until the most recent issue.
But Ben10 fans take the most minor of nitpicks and turn them into issues and it ends up spreading.
Which sucks cuz I'm in the same boat as you I do enjoy the book and I am excited for more but the constant negativity is just sooo annoying and hard to ignore.
Honestly, while for tumblr its still possible seeing negativity but i think atp imma just block folks on here too. Like im not tryna hear any "edgy fanfic" anytime MOA or whoever writes a mature ben 10 in future or whatever. I get people like the lightheartedness or think it works as a childrens show but doing so makes it so fucking limiting (not the lightheartedness i mean) and the shows being tied to toysales are the reasons why the prime continuity is the way it is now. Not because of the fact that it was focused towards kids but CN was focused so much on the toy sales.
Nothing but 6 FUCKING YEARS OF INCONSISTENCY ALL BECAUSE THEY WANT TEEN BEN TO ACT LIKE 10/YO BEN AGAIN.
And the reason why the bens aliens from the 2016 reboot (like wildvine and stinkfly) have just humanoid appearances is because of the toy company i believe. Ben 10 being focused towards kids is so limiting people have no idea, because the network would be on your neck for certain shit.
I truly don't even get the edgey fanfic comparisons cuz I've seen some awful edgey ben10 fanfics plus like with how much people glaze the uaf era and keep saying they want serious ben10. This series being serious ben10 should be just what they're looking for.
Like a ben10 series isn't driven by toysales and now its edgey fanfic. Like the aliens looking like aliens and people dying shouldn't be as big of a deal as folks are making it.
MOA made ben10 and spent the better part of a decade bowing to studio demands so it doesn't surprise me that when they got the chance to do something with more grit they took it.
Like i said, i better not be seeing people say ts towards any future serious ben 10 series and say its "edgy slop" or "edgy fanfic" all because they wanna up the stakes on it. Shits so dumb its not even funny. Maybe itll work for these people if it was like PG rating or some shit. I mean ffs TMNT had the turtles dying in the comics. Maybe people didnt like that one? Idk the consensus on the comic ngl to you.
Every new ben10 series is gonna get dumb scrutiny tbh. The prime continuity was so stake less that people still treat the ultimste kevin arc like it was master writing so I'm not even surprised people are being babies about it. Cuz i truly don't understand how Kraab killing a bunch of faceless nobodies is edgey fanfiction tbh but as Joe Casey kept saying alot of ben10 fans aren't comic book people so I wouldn't even be surprised if those are the people complaining about it.
Yeah youre right idk what i was thinking 💀. It wouldnt matter if we got the "perfect" ben 10 series, it would still get some nitpicks. I mean shit theres probably people out there that think invincible is "gore slop" or "edgy slop"
Like I love that ben10 has so many different iterations with different tones but the downside to that is that everyone in the fandom has latched on to one particular version they like and have condemned the rest to hell.
So no matter what new series comes along you're always gonna get people who hate on it just cuz it's not their version.
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No #s for this one, you gotta be one lucky sunnova gun to see this.
Deadass being a hyper fan of a media that you like fucking sucks (for me atleast). Because the one thing i wish i could tolerate is negativity. Imma fan of dragon ball, one piece, bleach, Devil may cry, Avatar the last airbender, etc. any hate towards them doesnt move me as much. Hell being a fucking sonic fan the hate doesnt move me either (but only by a little bit depending on the topic) and i like sonic more than them.
But you know what does? Ben 10! Being a hyper fan of ben 10 SUCKS! I would LOATHE seeing any negativity towards anything about that franchise. Granted its inevitable but i dont wanna see it. Even for this damn comic i cant stand it, makes me wanna be less of a fan than i already am. Maybe even step away from ben 10.
Maybe doing so will help lessen the sensitivity i have for seeing anything negative about ben 10. But even then idk if i could. Something tells me its due to the fact that ben 10s future (atleast in my eyes) is still somewhat questionable.
I mean aside from this comic we have a ttrpg coming out, there was some leaked concept arts back in feb, and thats it. We dont know whats next for ben, which for some it could be obv like another show but we dont know that.
I think thats where the sensitive to negativity is coming from. Bens future not being certain and worried that future or current content wouldnt do well. Other franchises like tmnt, dragon ball and ESPECIALLY sonic have futures even if the content ends up "bad". Ben 10? I really dont fucking know. Im not saying im losing hope but rather... im feeling perplexed maybe? Idk, thats the closest to what im somewhat feeling.
With DB, Atla and tmnt they're pretty much guaranteed to keep going even with the recent aang movie leak they stilll have more animated content on the horizon and outside of animated content there are still a bunch of comic books ,graphic novels and YA novels coming out.
Tmnt keeps getting new iterations
One piece still hasn't ended.
And DB is gonna keep getting new shit forever probably.
But Ben10 has been so mishandled that it deadass feels like any new piece of media that doesn't get overwhelming positive reception will just be unceremoniously canceled.
They did it with OV and despite the reboot doing well they still eventually canceled.
Ben10 should be CNs golden child but they treat it so horribly that it's hard to feel like new content isn't just gonna disappear.
Even the leaked series that has allegedly been in production since February 2024 despite that being a glimmer of hope for new animated Ben10 is hard to get excited about cuz WB aren't against just shelving whole projects.
It's why the dynamite series making such waves is such an amazing thing cuz you can definitely tell that dynamite knows that Ben10 is their money maker which is why they don't waste a second announcing reprints and shit and it's nice to see but it's also kinds difficult to fully enjoy it since despite all the positvity around the book the internet seems dedicated in showing us people hating and nitpicking it.
Thats what sucks about it! Like its been going so well but the doubt is still there. The sales are going well, the reviews are going well too. But there'll always be negativity and its natural for that to happen and im just...trying to not see any of that. See this is why im not built for the internet man 😭 its the hate (and while its always gonna happen, avoiding it is sometimes hard).
Sometimes i wish i could swap my undying love for ben 10 for sonic instead, cuz sonics my 2nd fav
It's why i try so hard to not engage in fandom spaces outside of tumblr and I try to avoid most topics surrounding the comic.
Cuz the negativity is just so annoying and literally just boils down to personal preference cuz the book truly has done as offensive as these guys would have people believe.
It just hasn't been super exciting up until the most recent issue.
But Ben10 fans take the most minor of nitpicks and turn them into issues and it ends up spreading.
Which sucks cuz I'm in the same boat as you I do enjoy the book and I am excited for more but the constant negativity is just sooo annoying and hard to ignore.
Honestly, while for tumblr its still possible seeing negativity but i think atp imma just block folks on here too. Like im not tryna hear any "edgy fanfic" anytime MOA or whoever writes a mature ben 10 in future or whatever. I get people like the lightheartedness or think it works as a childrens show but doing so makes it so fucking limiting (not the lightheartedness i mean) and the shows being tied to toysales are the reasons why the prime continuity is the way it is now. Not because of the fact that it was focused towards kids but CN was focused so much on the toy sales.
Nothing but 6 FUCKING YEARS OF INCONSISTENCY ALL BECAUSE THEY WANT TEEN BEN TO ACT LIKE 10/YO BEN AGAIN.
And the reason why the bens aliens from the 2016 reboot (like wildvine and stinkfly) have just humanoid appearances is because of the toy company i believe. Ben 10 being focused towards kids is so limiting people have no idea, because the network would be on your neck for certain shit.
I truly don't even get the edgey fanfic comparisons cuz I've seen some awful edgey ben10 fanfics plus like with how much people glaze the uaf era and keep saying they want serious ben10. This series being serious ben10 should be just what they're looking for.
Like a ben10 series isn't driven by toysales and now its edgey fanfic. Like the aliens looking like aliens and people dying shouldn't be as big of a deal as folks are making it.
MOA made ben10 and spent the better part of a decade bowing to studio demands so it doesn't surprise me that when they got the chance to do something with more grit they took it.
Like i said, i better not be seeing people say ts towards any future serious ben 10 series and say its "edgy slop" or "edgy fanfic" all because they wanna up the stakes on it. Shits so dumb its not even funny. Maybe itll work for these people if it was like PG rating or some shit. I mean ffs TMNT had the turtles dying in the comics. Maybe people didnt like that one? Idk the consensus on the comic ngl to you.
Every new ben10 series is gonna get dumb scrutiny tbh. The prime continuity was so stake less that people still treat the ultimste kevin arc like it was master writing so I'm not even surprised people are being babies about it. Cuz i truly don't understand how Kraab killing a bunch of faceless nobodies is edgey fanfiction tbh but as Joe Casey kept saying alot of ben10 fans aren't comic book people so I wouldn't even be surprised if those are the people complaining about it.
Yeah youre right idk what i was thinking 💀. It wouldnt matter if we got the "perfect" ben 10 series, it would still get some nitpicks. I mean shit theres probably people out there that think invincible is "gore slop" or "edgy slop"
Like I love that ben10 has so many different iterations with different tones but the downside to that is that everyone in the fandom has latched on to one particular version they like and have condemned the rest to hell.
So no matter what new series comes along you're always gonna get people who hate on it just cuz it's not their version.
Been seeing a lot of Gwen 10 on my dash and I am really happy that these are the type of people I decided to follow. #Gwendolyndeserves attentionshedidn'tgetintheshow.
however that raised questions in me. like.
why the fuck is Gwen with the omnitrix always 10.
the answer is cartoon network trying to milk the shit out of nostalgia OFC. But at the same time... the original Gwen 10 AU ended with Max getting the watch thus transitioning that universe from a Gwen 10 one to a Max 10 one.
so here I am your least favorite Mug of Root Beer in the Ben 10 fandom grasping at straws and things that aren't meant to mean more then the surface level corporate decisions once more.
examining Gwen's character's, Natalie's demands for her and Examining No Watch Universe we can really simmer away all the effects that the omnitrix brought on Ben and by proxy Gwen. and then we Can look at the Omniverse Gwen 10 AU and start to build up a character profile of Gwen as the Watch Wielder without Ben that has Previous/Outsider knowledge of the watch.
Just like Lucky Cat I do not think Gwen would be keen on telling anyone about the Omnitrix or her hero powers and seeing as she is more reserved with her powers she would probably be able to actually keep it hidden, while max splurged out something about "it's so weird we keep seeing alien on our journey and just when Gwen is away." and Gwen looks at her watch and goes "Ah... so they're aliens." anyway. Back onto why all Gwen 10's are stuck being 10.
I honestly don't think Gwen would be able to handle the pressure of being in the same Role as ben through alien force & omniverse. Which I don't mean as in she can't handle that much pressure like that, she very much can, it's just not the type of pressure Gwen is very good at handling. Which is self image/self worth related pressure. Once again I will recall the Time Heals episode and how Gwen carried herself there.
I think almost all Gwen 10 universes are doomed to turn into diffrent watch wielding universes purely because this isn't the fate for Gwen. While I don't like predetermined, chosen one storyline I feel like it is purely the difference in environment that made ben the best choice out of the 3 tennysons.
Gwen while calculated, reserved and cautious is also really self doubting and unable to really flaunt and own the Hero aspect. If/When Natalie finds out about her Heroics she'd probably just add to her self doubting and how she isn't a proper hero because of this and that. That with her continuous back tracking habit, and really poor self image by UAF, plus the distance between her and grandpa and if Gwen never told grandpa she is an alien superhero that gap would never mend. UAF would be a much weirder time for Gwen, grandpa max randomly goes missing for a couple months comes back later with a prosthetic arm. Does Kevin in happen in Gwen 10 au? And if it does how?
Max while experienced and the one who the omnitrix was intended for because of both Xylenes and Azmuths acknowledgement of his character, is out of his prime & also at least in OS. Really prone to random bursts of Violence?? he is also very secretive which is both an upside and a downside. because if secret of the omnitrix explosion was happening Max wouldn't be very forth coming with it. in Omniverse he is a space policeman so that immediately makes him unreliable, because he is so much more reliant on the letter of the law. Also as a more experienced person he is much more likely to take drastic measures.
Ben's really the best shot the omnitrix has as a tool of heroism and symbol of heroics. Because Ben trusts people, Ben's character up until the watch hits his wrist is what the omnitrix was built for - someome who is understanding & gives second chances, but also someone who doesn't stand for injustice. Sure he has his character flaws, and is a little self centered & a ragamuffin. But he is also fucking 10 bruh.
Gwen's mentality is much more close to Knowledge & self doubt.
I love Gaen to death and some of my ben 10 mutual on tumblr are working on amazing Gwen 10 aus, with this analysis I am not saying - hey Gwen can never be the wielder of the omnitrix I am trying to figure out, exactly why is it that no canon gwen is older than 10?
If Ben 10 Prime results in a complex but mighty oak tree of multiverses. Does Gwen 10 prime result in a wilted sad branch? One that withered before it could bloom? With just a couple beutiful flowers here and there? Like an Orchid none cared enough for?