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Blackincels have strong √pun intended hate boners towards the greens its pathetic. When I go through tags, greens are analyzing different perspectives whereas black cels are chanting greens 24*7. The contrast is funnier when you know Blackincels will never admit their faults but drown in deluluism to blame greenies. Their stupidity makes me want to gag 🤮 Ryan Condal sure got his target audiences right.

'blackincels'lmaoo iswear this fandom is something

thing w tuBers is that they want everybody to believe,accept n stan what they do.for eg if they say so n so is right then they are right there's no space for anyother view and if they say so n so is wrong then theyre. they cant accept other ppl to have differing or opposing opinions,thats sorta sheep herd mentality but this doesnt work in martins world bc of the range of chars that exist and the situations they exist in

ive not been much active but i see ur point bc whenever i go thru tags theres always a licorice stan yapping on alicent cole,aegon,aemond otto etc.even helaena w moronic n obsessive takes. instead of admitting their shortcomings tuBers always pivot around the greens.these are the kind of ppl who often virtue signal others but dont follow thru themselves. i dont think its'hate boner'tho as much as bitterness mayb spite like how dare ppl like greens as chars

I agree with most points of your show vs book alicent’s discourse but I strongly dislike how alicent is consistently referred only in terms of her motherhood particularly HotD alicent. don’t you think she shouldn’t be judged on the basis of being a bad mother

this not about her''judged on basis of being bad mother''its about the fact that the beneficiary of most her decisions in s02 is her enemy'dumbnyra to the point where it doesnt make sense any more. see u have ur opinion and ive mine.from what i saw on condal about hotd is its his version not how the dance'really'happened--something condal fans love to say

hotd alicent being bad mother would be interesting if she was not constantly framed as lacking in comparison to dumbnyra.even S1 wise,season2 was total 180 in lot of ways. alicent struggling with motherhood is never truly explored outside the notso subtle message ofuhh shes bad mother to bad kids and marysuenyra is superior hah.this wasnt done to benefit alicents char development or complexity but for rhaenicent,,b//w flawless dumbnyra and fallible alicent. thats the problem

i agree alicent is Not responsible for her adult sons voluntary acts and idiots who project their faults on her are no better than sicko tuBerculosis but its also valid that alicent can't set herself aside from greens to side w ex bestfriend now bc shes spark that lit the beacon inthe first place.the name greens came to be because of her. it isnt just about her motherhood its about abandoning what she started--all for flopnyra n freedom? thats no character development that's char assassination to me

ill prolly write something{or not}but let me tell u condal n hess are not doing alicent any favour by making her break away from the faction she in part created and they know it.they know alicents character will be subject to more dumBass opinions but their faux fEminIsm is making her'sympathetic' because she is now siding w tRew qWeen against her own side.this is what political head of greens{moreso in book}is reduced to.her struggling w motherhood is kk but her abandoning their cause to want to run away w former bestie is not. having said that after S2s dumb writing i dont judge hotd alicent for any thing bc hess n condal want exactly that--they garb it in fEminIsm but truth is most times alicent's presented to evoke apathy n derision.,and there are those who judge bc the messaging wasthat

i lean more book but i sorta liked s01 alicent.her s02 characterisation or lack thereof however is regrettably off. condal n hess are going to ruin hotd's ali for their personal leanings anyhow.now that feud w martin is out in the open,condal will zero in on his version bc his pride is hurt but while dance of the dragons was not perfect written in any form,fnb is still more canon than condals crapfan fiction

alicents characterisation differs both inter and intra season till its completely gone off canon.between other things book alicent was a savvy politicking queen who tried every path available to stop looming war before finally having enough of her dumb husband and his dumber daughter.she would never capitulate her children to the enemy thats the point of her fighting tooth n nail bc she feared they would be killed to make way for dumbnyra's bastard on the throne."Nor will they spare my children" she declared. "Aegon and his brothers are the king's trueborn sons with a better claim to the throne than her brood of bastards. Daemon will find some pretext to put them all to death. Even Helaena and her little ones"[fnb]

remember vaemond velaryon?killed in fnb by pedomon and fed to dumbnyras dragon bc he questioned her bastards legitimacy on driftmark.and remember his cousins?the silent five who were maimed by v*ssy in open court for telling the truth and demanding their right. in light of those events how could alicent not fear for her kids lives when semblance of some protection was gone after v*ssy's death

but i digress.heres the thing book alicent was never friends w dumbnyra. show alicent however was dumbnyra's former bestie so she did not have hard feelings after dumbnyras bastard maimed her 10yo permanently.she did not have hard feelings even when her grandkid was murdered by crude thugs for disproportionate revenge n lets not recall how S2 had her given humbling lectures in gotcha moments from all sundry including from her socalled friend only for her to reply''come with me''w no selfrespect thanks to dumb hess writing. this is in stark contrast to martins proud queen alicent who would rather break than bend.the only time she bent the knee was when her kids were in danger

book alicents story was heavily tied with not only her ambition or making firm choices on what she believed n experienced but also her motherhood{thats why it irritated me to see alis motherhood made stepping stone to lift flopnyra's in hotd]because alicent unlike dumbnyra had no claim but her son did so she maneuvred for him to be king that would also make her daughter queen and grandkids future heirs. show alicents story is all about deferring to qWeen dumbnyra.for book alicent her children n grandchildren were priority bc they were hers.for show alicent her enemy dumbnyra is priority

alicent was lady of rich old noble family thats one of the most influential in the reach,only daughter of the hand who's second most powerful man in the 7Ks why didnt she have her own ladies n friends? otto was second son yes but a second son who held most coveted seat in kings council is still influential.he was also in close correspondence with his brother who's the lord of oldtown meaning the hightowers were all on same page[imv alicent had her cousins as companions in fnb]