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Not the ask game but I’m curious about your thoughts! In the canceled Bible, Drake’s “ego” would’ve stemmed from his origins as an actor trying to find his big break, as being a bit egotistical is a big part of the OG!Darkwing’s personality/one of his greatest flaws, but I never thought of DT17!Drake as having a big ego at all—he always seemed pretty down to earth, if not a little goofy here and there. In your comics and headcanons, how do you balance those aspects of the character or figure it’d work?
the thing about characters with big egos is that a story has to be about them for you to really feel it. drake was the center of the majority of darkwing duck episodes, but he shared the lead with LP and jim in TDKR, and with LP and gos (and like dewey and huey) in LGD. and was a supporting character in moonvasion and the finale.
it's still there though. he's written as a nicer person for a more emotionally grounded(?) show, but the throughline is more intact than some people give him credit for.
i am the epitome of "he's out of character to YOU. i know him, though." for drake mallard 2017. LONG POST, GO!
i do admit he was kind of taking his normal pills in his debut episode but i almost feel like that was to bury the lede about him being drake. and also to shine more light on the idea of darkwing duck's ability to endure becoming less of a cartoon gag and more of an inspirational ability.
but like "a cut of the toy sales would be nice," "i'm very strong and resilient," "i AM better than gizmoduck," ("the man stepping into your cape" somewhat) etc. TDKR was also half about negaduck's origin story and RIP negaduck never seen again died in the sewers.
in moonvasion, you see more of that ego though. he's been at it for i dunno call it a month and he is already buying his own hype as the terror that flaps in the night. declaring that the invaders will surrender immediately, assuming his image will strike fear into their hearts, reacting genuinely annoyed/sadly when he's ignored or told nobody is scared of him. much like 91 he's engaging in the fantasy of being Not Drake Mallard and the power/lack thereof that comes with that.
similar to darkly dawns, let's get dangerous has him immediately falling for bulba's flattery because it's probably the first time anybody but launchpad or like dewey treated him like a hero. "bulba believes in me! the city needs me!" no tf it does not need you. you didn't do anything. the reason drake would rather not believe gosalyn's story is because bulba was nice to him. it takes launchpad reminding him that he wanted to do all this to make a difference for someone for him to take action.
and later, "another dastardly deviant deposed and defeated etc" buddy you didn't do anything you let him get away. he's more braggadocious in general in LGD. he still takes jabs at gizmoduck (and as usual his hatred for gizmoduck stems from his insecurity as a hero. probably even moreso than in 91 because gizmoduck is a genuinely agreeable guy who's just trying to help out.) and acts very self-important about his work even though it kind of amounted to a cookbook when he was on dewey dew-night.
his ego does cause conflict but again, he's sharing the spotlight with gos and worrying about gos for most of the second half of that episode. (i don't think leaving gos and LP behind to deal with the ramrod alone comes from ego, but from his concern for gosalyn's safety. he probably did expect to be able to take on the fearsome four alone though.)
in escape from the impossibin, he looks at his fucked up face in a little compact mirror and frowns. his vanity <3
in the finale, which i admit i've watched fewer times than TDKR and LGD, darkwing and gizmoduck are playing support to launchpad's story. they are representations of heroes and literally leave him behind several times. he feels like he's holding them back. he feels like he holds everyone back. darkwing and gizmoduck and gosalyn fight steelbeak to protect him. but it's drake saying "i don't need dead weight holding me back." that breaks launchpad's heart. he automatically assumes it's about him, and i know that's more about launchpad than drake.
but drake doesn't immediately jump to reassure LP before being crushed by a giant box because he's spent this entire episode being too absorbed in a one-sided pissing match with gizmoduck to notice that his best friend is going through something.
drake is self-centered. he thinks about others' safety because he can physically act to preserve it but he has trouble conceptualizing their emotions because he is so entrenched in his own. it's only seeing LP physically on the ground saying "i can't do it, i'm not a hero." that tells him launchpad needs support and he's way too late on picking up on that.
got a little carried away at the end there but yeah, i wouldn't necessarily call that part ego but also one of drake's lasting flaws from 91, being that he doesn't notice how others are feeling emotionally until there are physical consequences.
ANYWAY
to answer your question, yeah it's all there. but DWD18 would give drake way more opportunity to be the center of plots so that those things could feature prominently, since it would be about him and two other people for the most part. the way that his ego and self-centeredness affect the people he cares about most.
sorry anon you didn't cause this long post. this is something i think about a lot and i was given the opportunity. i think some people think there's a wide gulf between him and 91 drake, but compared to other reboot characters it's not THAT huge a difference. he just doesn't have many opportunities for the plot to center around his flaws, which exacerbates them.
i'm excited to exacerbate them while writing DWD18. i love making drake mallard make bad decisions.
they DO make him easier to get along with/more sociable, though, which makes sense with his background as an actor. and having only been at the gig for like a year rather than 20 or so before gosalyn and launchpad got to him, it makes sense that he'd act less like a man who lived in an abandoned tower and only came out to fight people for years on end.
I agree. I think the fact that he's so new at this is the big difference. When we first meet him, he's still basically a nobody actor, and I think the ego hasn't really had a chance to come out yet. I see him as someone desperately craving attention and validation, and once he gets it, he can easily get lost in it.
He chose a career as an actor in an attempt to process his own childhood trauma by literally becoming the thing he needed, and projecting that onto what he thinks other kids would need. And yet he's over 30 and still struggling to get into that career and make the impact he wants to make. That's going to cause some insecurities on its own, never mind when you put that much weight on the value of what you're trying to do. It's entirely realistic to me that he would deal with that by developing a bit of ego to counteract that insecurity, and then seeing that ego take off and become maladaptive once he feels he's succeeding as an *actual* superhero. Recognition and success would probably feel so satisfying and cathartic after that long.
I said this a long time ago, but I think Jim/Negaduck represents how the character of Darkwing risks consuming Drake too, if he isn't careful. Unlike 91 Drake though, this time he's an older Millennial, who I like to think has maybe encountered more normalized conversations about self awareness and mental health to keep him a little more grounded.
Not the ask game but I’m curious about your thoughts! In the canceled Bible, Drake’s “ego” would’ve stemmed from his origins as an actor trying to find his big break, as being a bit egotistical is a big part of the OG!Darkwing’s personality/one of his greatest flaws, but I never thought of DT17!Drake as having a big ego at all—he always seemed pretty down to earth, if not a little goofy here and there. In your comics and headcanons, how do you balance those aspects of the character or figure it’d work?
the thing about characters with big egos is that a story has to be about them for you to really feel it. drake was the center of the majority of darkwing duck episodes, but he shared the lead with LP and jim in TDKR, and with LP and gos (and like dewey and huey) in LGD. and was a supporting character in moonvasion and the finale.
it's still there though. he's written as a nicer person for a more emotionally grounded(?) show, but the throughline is more intact than some people give him credit for.
i am the epitome of "he's out of character to YOU. i know him, though." for drake mallard 2017. LONG POST, GO!
i do admit he was kind of taking his normal pills in his debut episode but i almost feel like that was to bury the lede about him being drake. and also to shine more light on the idea of darkwing duck's ability to endure becoming less of a cartoon gag and more of an inspirational ability.
but like "a cut of the toy sales would be nice," "i'm very strong and resilient," "i AM better than gizmoduck," ("the man stepping into your cape" somewhat) etc. TDKR was also half about negaduck's origin story and RIP negaduck never seen again died in the sewers.
in moonvasion, you see more of that ego though. he's been at it for i dunno call it a month and he is already buying his own hype as the terror that flaps in the night. declaring that the invaders will surrender immediately, assuming his image will strike fear into their hearts, reacting genuinely annoyed/sadly when he's ignored or told nobody is scared of him. much like 91 he's engaging in the fantasy of being Not Drake Mallard and the power/lack thereof that comes with that.
similar to darkly dawns, let's get dangerous has him immediately falling for bulba's flattery because it's probably the first time anybody but launchpad or like dewey treated him like a hero. "bulba believes in me! the city needs me!" no tf it does not need you. you didn't do anything. the reason drake would rather not believe gosalyn's story is because bulba was nice to him. it takes launchpad reminding him that he wanted to do all this to make a difference for someone for him to take action.
and later, "another dastardly deviant deposed and defeated etc" buddy you didn't do anything you let him get away. he's more braggadocious in general in LGD. he still takes jabs at gizmoduck (and as usual his hatred for gizmoduck stems from his insecurity as a hero. probably even moreso than in 91 because gizmoduck is a genuinely agreeable guy who's just trying to help out.) and acts very self-important about his work even though it kind of amounted to a cookbook when he was on dewey dew-night.
his ego does cause conflict but again, he's sharing the spotlight with gos and worrying about gos for most of the second half of that episode. (i don't think leaving gos and LP behind to deal with the ramrod alone comes from ego, but from his concern for gosalyn's safety. he probably did expect to be able to take on the fearsome four alone though.)
in escape from the impossibin, he looks at his fucked up face in a little compact mirror and frowns. his vanity <3
in the finale, which i admit i've watched fewer times than TDKR and LGD, darkwing and gizmoduck are playing support to launchpad's story. they are representations of heroes and literally leave him behind several times. he feels like he's holding them back. he feels like he holds everyone back. darkwing and gizmoduck and gosalyn fight steelbeak to protect him. but it's drake saying "i don't need dead weight holding me back." that breaks launchpad's heart. he automatically assumes it's about him, and i know that's more about launchpad than drake.
but drake doesn't immediately jump to reassure LP before being crushed by a giant box because he's spent this entire episode being too absorbed in a one-sided pissing match with gizmoduck to notice that his best friend is going through something.
drake is self-centered. he thinks about others' safety because he can physically act to preserve it but he has trouble conceptualizing their emotions because he is so entrenched in his own. it's only seeing LP physically on the ground saying "i can't do it, i'm not a hero." that tells him launchpad needs support and he's way too late on picking up on that.
got a little carried away at the end there but yeah, i wouldn't necessarily call that part ego but also one of drake's lasting flaws from 91, being that he doesn't notice how others are feeling emotionally until there are physical consequences.
ANYWAY
to answer your question, yeah it's all there. but DWD18 would give drake way more opportunity to be the center of plots so that those things could feature prominently, since it would be about him and two other people for the most part. the way that his ego and self-centeredness affect the people he cares about most.
sorry anon you didn't cause this long post. this is something i think about a lot and i was given the opportunity. i think some people think there's a wide gulf between him and 91 drake, but compared to other reboot characters it's not THAT huge a difference. he just doesn't have many opportunities for the plot to center around his flaws, which exacerbates them.
i'm excited to exacerbate them while writing DWD18. i love making drake mallard make bad decisions.
they DO make him easier to get along with/more sociable, though, which makes sense with his background as an actor. and having only been at the gig for like a year rather than 20 or so before gosalyn and launchpad got to him, it makes sense that he'd act less like a man who lived in an abandoned tower and only came out to fight people for years on end.
@raine-parade commented abt Launchpad needing glasses and I had to do this immediately. I don't think Launchpad is even in denial, he just thinks blurry world is normal world.
Also @heymeiday 's teen/grownup Dewey w glasses are canon to me now actually
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noticed some things in a few of LP’s lines from “The Duck Knight Returns” today..
when Drake is talking about his childhood he says “shocking as it may sound, I was not the coolest kid growing up,” to which Launchpad responds with “what? no.” and I love it because he didn’t say it sarcastically or anything, it was actually genuine!! it just makes you realize that Launchpad really thinks that Drake’s a cool guy and i just thought that was a nice detail from that scene
then there was this exchange at the end
“oh, what am I gonna do now?”
“what Darkwing Duck always does, get back up.”
i just really think this was Launchpad seeing Drake as DW already, because you’d think his first response would be “get dangerous”, but he uses Drake’s motif from earlier. even before Drake took up the role, Launchpad, after seeing the mess Jim had become, has already begun associating Darkwing with Drake
and then afterwards he has Drake sign his poster, the one that he had ready for Jim to sign, saying “you’ve already got one fan”. just.. the level of respect he has after knowing Drake for one day is so wild, and hearing the sincerity in his voice with all of these lines..
“this may be the most eloquent Launchpad has ever been.”
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