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I remember a good while back, there was an ask that floated around about the possibility that Celine and the other Sunlight Sister had not only known about Rumi’s dad way before he and Miyeoung even became a thing, but have been very close friends with him as well (essentially the first Core 4 before HUNTRIX + Jinu). I don’t remember all of it, but I remember how much whump and angst material you can get from that.
I remember it mentioned how, at some point in the future (in the sequels), Celine (and the third sister if she ever becomes a character in the films) come face to face with Rumi’s dad after all these years. How for all those years, Rumi’s dad didn’t blame them for how things fell apart, how all this time he knew it was for the better. And how relieved and happy he was to finally see them again.
That is until he meets Rumi and she doesn’t even know who he was, which confuses him because surely Celine had kept pictures of him when he was still topside.
That is until hears Celine and the third sister confess to him the lengths they took to essentially erase him from their history, the lengths Celine took to sever his connection with Rumi by never speaking of him or even mentioning his name. He hears all of this and he feels a terrible concoction of sadness, guilt, anger, and loneliness. A sadness he hasn’t felt since before he met them. His friends - his sisters - choosing to forget him and all that they’ve been through together. Celine, someone who he had seen go from hostile to trusted ally, the ally he saw change her mindset on demons alongside the other girls, the ally he comforted after her break up, the ally who became his sister, having fallen back on old, outdated mindsets because of what had happened with Miyeoung. How after hearing all of this, all he could muster up as a response is “oh.”
Like, come one. The POTENTIAL HERE?? I know it most likely isn’t what they’re gonna go for, but the idea of essentially subverting expectations of what Rumi’s dad was to the other Sunlight Sisters, having the sisters + him be a tragic parallel to the Core 4 (with the difference being that the Core 4 actually persevere), making it so that Celine’s mindset about demons and hunting wasnt something she believed in since the beginning, but was something she relapsed into after already going through the whole “Not all demons are bad, some of them just need a chance” with Rumi’s dad. The potential of seeing him get hurt, and an old instinct activating within Celine and the third sister because “We can’t let him die, we can’t lose him again.” And vice versa.
Plus, the story potential with them in the present, having to learn to trust each other again, to rebuild their relationship, and the inevitable satisfaction of seeing them become a family again. Rumi finally getting to know her father, making up for lost time, and finally, for the time, having both a mom and a dad.
What do you think of that idea? What would your approach to it be if you went for something like this. Idk I just think it’s an extremely neat possibility!!
I actually REALLY adore this idea because I think it could be a great catalyst for Celine having a redemption arc (if she really is the reason/part of the reason Mi-yeong is dead and Rumi's dad is MIA)
Say the Sunlight Sisters all had a positive relationship with Rumi's dad. They might've shared meals, schemes, fights, stories, sadnesses.... all the good stuff that friends share. Then all the horrible things happen, Mi-Yeong dies, Rumi's dad either dies or goes missing, Celine and the remaining Sunlight Sister drift apart as Celine is left alone to raise Rumi. Maybe Celine learns to harbor resentment against Rumi's dad or starts to blame him for how everything happened. Maybe she starts to question why she ever trusted a demon to begin with. In her mind, she begins to think that trusting a demon is what led to all those horrible things happening in the first place...
Then 20 something years in the future, Celine sees her past reflected in Huntrix with Jinu. But this time, nothing bad happens. If anything, Jinu's addition has helped the Honmoon flourish. He saved Rumi's life. They're more effective together, since they're working on bridging the two worlds rather than dividing it. The girls have found their true purpose as Hunters.
Jinu might have to do something to prove himself to Celine. Having died for Rumi won't be enough, in her mind. Maybe Jinu is the reason Rumi's dad comes back into the picture. Maybe Celine, seeing him after all these years, embracing his daughter in tears, would allow her to find the closure and clarity she's so desperately needed for so long.
I think it would be super cool because, in some ways, Mi-Yeong isn't truly gone. She lives on in Rumi. So Rumi is the connection between the two. She's the one who can bridge the two groups together, and allow healing to take place.
There's a ton of angst potential in this. I REALLY hope that Rumi's dad makes an appearance in the future of the KPDH world.
Zoey: We have an announcement!
Bobby: Yes?
Rumi: Zoey, Mira, and I—
Bobby: Are getting married?
Mira: No, we—
Bobby: *pulls out binder* Sit down. I have planned out the entire thing
Some Sense8!Polytrix AU thoughts in regards to their connections with the outside world and each other
On the one hand, I think Sense8 AU Polytrix’s senses of self-worth and confidence levels would be through the roof considering they’ve each basically had two people cheering them on 24/7 whose minds they can sort of read and who they know everything about, and thus they know aren’t lying with their support, their ENTIRE lives. Since the moment they were born. So having that constant support and constant love in their life at literally every second of every day forever has got to be a helpful morale boost.
On the OTHER hand, holy shit would that kinda fuck them up. Because their constant support would clash so hard with the feelings of shame, of being nothing but trouble and thus unworthy of love, and of being too much and too little at the same time being hammered into their heads at all times from the outside world, creating an insane amount of dissonance in their minds from a young age. Not to mention the fact that it seems like clusters have a lot of mind melding, not knowing where one person in the cluster ends and the others begin, and sometimes just considering themselves different parts of the same person (which is why some sensates consider it narcissistic to fall in love within your own cluster; put a pin in that) going on, which probably ends up with them internalizing certain things that were said about the others and weren’t even said to them! And if they try to tell anyone about the two people that visit them and tell them everything that’s great about them, they’ll just look like lunatics!
And I think that results in this huge issue where they sort of just stop communicating with the world outside of the three of them unless forced to do so. Any other social connections they may have had outside their families disintegrates, they stop going out as much to places they would often spend time before, and eventually even their grades start slipping because they’re not paying attention to their teachers, and besides, what does it matter, they’ll be hugely famous stars one day. That’s what Rumi’s guardian Celine says anyways, and Celine is another sensate so she gets it and Rumi was chosen to be a hunter so we definitely are too.
And of course that insular behavior of shutting everyone but each other out becomes even more complicated when puberty hits and feelings start changing and evolving into something considerably less Best Friends In The Whole World Who I Happen To Share A Mind With and considerably more Soulmates, Mindmates, And Hopefully Someday Regular Mates. Celine picks up on it before they even meet in person for the first time (sees how Rumi blushes at nothing, whispers about how pretty two people are to thin air, eyes glaze over when blankly staring at the wall) and immediately seeks to shut that down. She is one of those cluster romance haters who believes it’s narcissistic to love one’s clustermates romantically, and she realizes very fast that Rumi is in love with both of her clustermates. It’s the ultimate form of narcissism, she tells Rumi, and they are Hunters. Hunters are not narcissists.
(Of course, it’s rhetoric that was spouted to her by her mentor as well, when she found out that Celine was in love with her clustermates, one of whom loved another and died giving birth to the very girl who she is repeating that rhetoric to, and the other who has been using blockers for years now to avoid her at all costs. Celine’s own love ended horribly and she internalized this horrible ending and the hollow ache left behind in the absence of the two missing parts of her soul and she projects that on to Rumi, partly because she’s come to believe that her losses were a punishment for that narcissistic love, but mostly because the idea of Rumi enduring the same pain that she did is too much to bear.
It doesn’t actually do anything to stop them, though. In fact, the moment Rumi starts to internalize what Celine is saying, Mira and Zoey essentially go “I think the fuck not” in tandem, and immediately run away to the compound to join them. After that, it’s pretty easy to make Rumi forget about those beliefs, although they still have to step in every once in a while to fight them off again.)
Once they’re together and finally starting to train as a group, they start to learn how to utilize their sharing ability in combat situations (which comes easily to them once they all get the hang of fighting in general, considering they’ve had 15 years of sharing up to that point). They also learn certain Hunter techniques and solutions that enable them to maintain their connection at the greatest level and also not form any accidental connections while performing in front of crowds of thousands, which will inevitably contain at least a few sensates in them. This is useful for maintaining their private lives and for keeping the whole demons thing a secret.
They are extremely eager to learn how to not form connections, not just for the above reasons, but as it turns out, who would’ve thunk it, the trio who spent years as an extremely insular group of people who blocked out any and all social connections besides the three of them (and their respective families but even with them interactions were limited) are now genuinely repulsed by the idea of forming any other sensate connections. Celine is the one exception, because she’s their mentor and Rumi already had a connection with her anyways, but everyone else is shut out completely. They make a point of never making eye contact with anyone other than each other for this very reason, which leads to a lot of fans speculating that they’re all autistic (which, hey, they’re not wrong, but still not the main cause of their aversion to eye contact).
Eventually they do have to unlearn their complete aversion to socializing outside of one another, but even then they stick together at any and all social events well into their careers.
Imagine Huntrix finds out about Rumi's heritage when a particularly nasty demon attacks them.
Zoey and Mira are fighting alone, and are swiftly overpowered. But instead of killing them, the demon begins sucking out their souls.
They think this is it, their fates sealed, only for Rumi to show up and, right as the demon is about to swallow them, wrests the souls from the demon's clutches.
She unceremoniously shoves the souls back into her fiends, and proceeds to destroy the demon. Viciously.
But only demons can do that, Zoey and Mira think as Rumi gasps for breath over her decapitated foe. Only demons can snatch souls...
I’m imagining Rumi coming out of nowhere and punching the demon in its throat before forcefully opening its jaws and shoving her arm down its throat to grab Mira and Zoey’s souls then shoving the souls back into her girls before going psycho killer Ghostface style on the demon and then decapitating it
This would mean that for a brief moment Mira and Zoey were dead. Soulless
When they come to after having their souls shoved back into their bodies, all they see is Rumi stabbing the demon in vital organs 22 times before decapitating it. Mira is concerned and Zoey is having Scream movie flashbacks
And then they look at each other...and realize...
"RUMI!!! YOU PUT OUR SOULS BACK IN THE WRONG BODIES!"

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Horribly dumb AU in which Rumi thought Mira and Zoey knew about her patterns the entire time but thought they considered them disgusting (as they don’t stop calling demons hideous and saying they should all die) so she would still cover up cuz how dare she bother them with her patterns.
Problem is that Mira and Zoey did NOT know about her patterns. And when she slips up and mentions them, chaos occurs.
My mind is spinning on all the ways the reveal could happen. Maybe something a lil more direct?
What if established polytrix but like an off balance version where Mira and Zoey think Rumi is just uninterested in physical intimacy or needs more time while Rumi thinks her girls think she’s too disgusting to touch but they somehow like her just enough to include her. And Rumi doesn’t think she’s a “real” part of the throuple yet. She’s like. Held in reserve until she’s fixed. One day Mira and Zoey hesitantly go up to Rumi asking if they can try and do some cuddling and build up from there and Rumi goes-
“It’s okay! :) I know I’m not like- it’s- You guys don’t have to force it! We can wait until I’m fixed. :)”
Cue a bunch of confusion from all ends until Rumi’s like. Cuz ya know. The patterns?
Then chaos erupts.
But also like. Mira and Zoey have been slowly sharing their physical insecurities and they reaffirm each other with touches and kisses. And Rumi is there. Watching as her girls embrace and celebrate all parts of each other as she burns with the shame of her patterns and tries not to cry at how Mira and Zoey do the complete opposite for her. Mira strokes the hips Zoey thinks are too wide for an idol. Zoey kisses the stretch marks on Mira’s joints. But Rumi? No she’s disgusting. They can’t even look at her. (Or so she thinks).
This. This is what I wanted.
Can you imagine the amount of guilt Mira and Zoey felt?
They’ve been trying to make Rumi feel comfortable the entire time, because they love her. They want her. Only for her to reveal she thought it was conditional. That they only unconditionally loved each other and Rumi had to earn it.
Can you imagine them thinking back on every conversation they’ve had about Demons and knowing Rumi thought that included her? Them thinking back on the fact that she agreed with them?
She thinks they knew because she actually slipped up and told them, when they were all younger. It had been Zoey's 19th birthday, and they were celebrating with drinks. A bit of alcohol had loosened Rumi's tongue.
She didn't realize that the others had consumed a tad more than a little bit.
Rumi: "Girls, I'm... a half demon!"
Mira: *Throws up because she had too much alcohol*
Zoey: (Trying to ask why the room is spinning) "Wh...why is the Rumi turning?!"
Rumi: Oh no...they hate me
Imagine Huntrix finds out about Rumi's heritage when a particularly nasty demon attacks them.
Zoey and Mira are fighting alone, and are swiftly overpowered. But instead of killing them, the demon begins sucking out their souls.
They think this is it, their fates sealed, only for Rumi to show up and, right as the demon is about to swallow them, wrests the souls from the demon's clutches.
She unceremoniously shoves the souls back into her fiends, and proceeds to destroy the demon. Viciously.
But only demons can do that, Zoey and Mira think as Rumi gasps for breath over her decapitated foe. Only demons can snatch souls...
obsessed w that universe for the placeholder train argument (i know none of this is canon!) (original source) (version w voicing added, unsure on the source for this)
what did zoey mean by "you just won't sing it because *i* wrote the lyrics" what beef did they have? is there a world where maybe rumi and zoey had tension over zoey doing most of the song writing? the implication was also kind of that zoey choreographed takedown- was takedown in particular a song that zoey was really proud of? crazy implications for later. and we know what the takedown choreo could have been and i can see why rumi kept trying to change it... also just implies zoey in particular being rlly against changes which is fun! (for me not her)
also the idea that zoey knew the entire time, point blank, that rumi was lying about the tonics helping her (even, potentially, that zoey specifically set rumi up TO lie knowing that she was taking her to a scam)
the specific "not everything is about your trust issues, mira" laid out (paired with the above about zoey)
ALSO zoey's "oh does that make you feel left out?" to mira, like zoey is the one who always feels left out between rumi and mira maybe?
zoey throwing a shin kal for mira to catch...and the power blast at the end being a combination of mira/zoey doing something together
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Alternate: They Find Out (Rumi’s Patterns)
Look I know we have the heat stroke, injury/sicknesses and Rumi telling them subtle / them clocking Celine. But I have a request . . . THE HONMOON
And I do not just mean the Honmoon outright verbally telling Zoemira Rumi’s patterns. Or Rumi’s patterns lighting up by Honmoon doing things to do her.
I mean they finding out about the Honmoon hurting her before Pre-Canon. What can that look like?
- the closer they get to the Golden Honmoon, Rumi is noticeably getting weaker. Like sluggish and more sick if we are going GH = Death or Banishment route
- Summoning her sword / using her Hunters being NOT normal or traditional. That plus it being painful and Celine having to readjust to training normal Hunters and actively hiding/suppressing Rumi’s issues
- Honmoon Trances or outright Possession, like Rumi having a moment and we get threads of the Honmoon stopping or restraining her.
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Mira having been in med school is wild because it lowkey shifts the entire fanon perspective of her origins pre-Huntrix.
Fanon as a whole tends to see her as a runaway, or someone who fought her parents for individuality her entire life. But the fact that she went to med school has some interesting implications.
Her parents were most likely paying for it.
She likely spent a long time actually trying to make them proud and bend to their expectations.
There's a possibility she was the last brought on board, instead of Zoey.
This all paints an interesting hypothetical picture of a Mira, exhausted and beaten down by being in career she possibly didn't even want, desperately trying to hold on because she wants to still HELP people, trying to find an outlet of any kind and just spending a night at the club dancing to the beat of this Korean-American rapper being backtracked by this amazing vocalist, only to walk out at 2 AM and find some middle-aged bombshell waiting for her outside a limo and going "I have found you, my hunter."
And Mira doesn't know if she's about to get laid or Squid Gamed, but she's got an exam in a week, so frankly either one will do.
I am just coming off of Twitter, a little lore spotted from merch that Mira ditched med school. And I was always wondering the idea of what if that our Huntrix girls continued some schooling while being cute teenage trainees
I’m just saying this cause just imagine a AU post trainee /debut era but right before pre-canon (world tour / fifth idol awards). So just the four years of being idols and demon hunters, plus the added stress of either Zoerumi or Zoemira or Rumira being college students with pent up stress over their midterms/final exams and clinicals
Demon:
Rumi: I HAVE TO STUDY
Insert screaming
Wait, Rumi could be that workaholic who goes to college while being a global idol and demon hunter. Zoemira restrain her
She's in horny jail
What do you mean this isn’t canon? (12/?)

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“You’ll always be my baby” 🐣
2 years post movie, after a long journey of healing together, Rumi asks Celine to redo this photo of them, 25 years later.
I live in a world of unicorn and rainbows
“You were a big baby, with lots of cheeks to bite” 🍎
Celine and Rumi might be my favorite mother-daughter duo, I hope to see more of them in the sequel 🫶