โข Hello, my name's Ry and I'm a hellenic polytheist / pagan.
โข I'm gay, genderfluid, and use he / him pronouns.
โข I am a worshipper of and devoted to Dionysus, but I have been thinking about branching out and worshipping Apollo and Aphrodite.
โข I've made this blog as a way to connect myself with Hellenism, to seek further knowledge about the Theoi, and just overall share my own knowledge and experiences with as many people as I can.
โข I'm studying classics in my free time, so I wouldn't call myself an expert :>
โข I'm also into philosophy and history, watched dead poets society and maurice (all time favorite movies), and I'm also into musicals!
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The sea is a temple. The woods are a temple. Your own bedroom is a temple. The world is imbued with the spiritual. Worship is an act, not a place, and it can happen spontaneously, in reaction to the beauty of a moment.
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In โโReligions of Rome: Volume 1, A Historyโโ Mary Beard, John North, & Simon Price (1998a, p. 12) states:
[โฆ]ย Recent work, particularly in archaeology, has cast doubt on the idea of an early, uncontaminated, native strand of genuine Roman religion; and it has suggested that, rather than seeing pure Roman traditions gradually polluted from outside,ย Roman religion was an amalgam of different traditionsย from at least as far back as we can hope to go. Leaving aside its mythical prehistory,ย Roman religion was always already multicultural.
This tendency to absorb other cultures can even be identified in Romeโs founding myths when Romulusโaccording to Livy (in book 1 ofย Ab Urbe Condita) and Plutarch (about the Life of Romulus inย Parallel Lives)โaccepted people from diverse backgrounds (like slaves and fugitives) when the City was still new and growing, or even in Vergilโs Aeneid narrativizing a coherent linear structure of Aeneas escaping Troy and eventually founded Lavinium by intermingling with the local Latin population.
Like many ancientโand even modernโreligious traditions, Roman religion was not static, it was always in motion beyond Romeโs pomerium, constantly adapting to its external conditions as Romeโs boundaries kept fluctuatingโwhether it was expanding, shrinking, or frozenโand intermingled with people of foreign soil and various cultures, even if that intermingling was through trade, diplomacy, and/or conquest.
Haruspicy; the Etruscan ritual practice of divination and reading omens by observing the entrails and liver of animal sacrificial offerings, andย Haruspices; the Etruscan priests and ritual specialists, are good examples of the theme of cultural amalgamation in Roman religion. They were not acknowledged as โโfullyโโ Roman yet were significant in Roman religious life and tradition (Beard, North, Price, 1998b, p. 175).
In an attempt to understand foreign deities in the context of their own cosmology, Romans would interpret them in parallel with the deities in their own pantheon based on the characteristics they thought were similar. This process of translation is also known asย interpretatio romana.
One example beingย Isisย from Egypt whom the Greeks and Romans interpreted as Demeter/Ceres, Hera/Juno, Aphrodite/Venus, or Artemis/Diana. Isis was not only an Egyptian goddess who could be interpretated as Greek and Roman goddesses with similar characteristics, but she herself also had various epithets and manifestations. This reflects that Isis had a highly polysemous nature (Mazurek, 2022, p. 102). Furthermore, the epithets can vary based on specific contexts and characteristics. For example,ย Isis-Pelagiaย (of the sea) who was worshipped by sailors, or based on their proximity to another deity; for example,ย Isis-Fortunaย which was a syncretic manifestation of both deities. Her polysemous nature made facilitated the diffusion of her cult. The presence of the Isaic Cult existed in the Ptolemaic Kingdom and even before the annexation of Egypt, her cult came to Italy around late 2nd century BCE where the earliest temples date around 105 BCE and her priesthoodโcollege of pastophoroiโeventually formed in Rome around 80 BCE (Bowden, 2023, p. 193).
Another example beingย Kybeleโa.k.a.ย Magna Materโfrom Phrygia who was also interpreted asย Ceresย or evenย Terra Mater. Whereas as the cult of Isis was accepted into the Roman pantheon, Magna Mater and her cult were rather actively sought after by the Romans to be accepted into the Roman pantheon as a prophecy according to the Sibylline Books during a time when Romans sought for answers to ongoing hardships.
Livy (Bowden, 2023, p. 116) wrote: (inย Ab Urbe Condita, book 29.10):
About this time [205 BC] a sudden wave of religious concern swept over the citizenry. The Sibylline Books had been consulted because it had rained stones that year more than usual and in the books a prophecy had been found that if ever a foreign enemy should invade Italy, he could be defeated and driven out if the Idaean Mother were brought from Pessinus to Rome.
Furthermore, Kybele was also associated withย Mount Idaย near the site of Troy which was considered the ancestral land of Aeneas. This detail is also even mentioned in Vergilโs Aeneid (9.80-82).
However, even though Isis and Kybele could be understood as Roman deitiesโor even sometimes as each other1โthey could still be venerated in their own respective cults just like their supposed Roman interpretations, albeit they still went through romanization which deterritorialized them from their own land and culture/people.
In other contexts, certain foreign deities did not have Roman interpretations of themselves (as in interpreting Isis as Ceres) but rather received direct translations and were unambiguously imported. Such examples beingย Apolloย andย Asclepiusย from the Greek pantheon.
However, even such โdirectโ translations were filtered through elements of 1)ย interpretatio romanaย for prioritizing and ignoring certain characteristics from their native cult and 2)ย romanizationย through reconstruction of their visual and artistic representations in the style of the Romans.
For example, Apollo was included in Vergilโs Aeneid (an Augustan Epic Poem) and was represented โโas the prophet of Romeโs future greatness.โโ (Agard, 1935, p. 101). In this context, even though Apollo didnโt have a direct translation, he was still adapted into Roman literature, cosmology, and subsequently a nation-building project initiated by Augustus. To complicate things even further, deities like Apollo can go through further adaptations even after being incorporated into other religious traditions and civilizations. Vergilโs depiction of Apollo in the Aeneid (8.703) has also been used as a tool for propaganda embedded with Augustan ideologies framing the narrative of how Apollo โโvouchsafed the climactic battle of Actium for Octavianโโ as per Miller (2004, p. 168). Vergilโs narrativization of Apollo contributing to the Battle of Actium acted also as a strategy of legitimization by appealing to divine will. This version of Apollo portrayed in Augustan literature is also claimed to be known as โโApollo Palatinusโโ or Apollo Actiusโโ2ย as per Miller (2004, p. 168).
Alternatively, Whilst the Roman Empire was navigating the hardships caused by the Antonine plague (165โ180 CE) the Roman state began minting out more coins with the image of Apollo โthe healerโ (Kennedy, 2024, p. 94) as a response to the spread of the plague by evoking Apolloโs association with disease and medicine. This also exemplifies how cult activity and priorities can vary and fluctuate in reaction to external conditions and circumstances.
โน๏ธ Evocatio
An example of how foreign deities could have been accepted into Roman culture and religion wasย Evocatio, a war strategy and ritual performed by Roman generals to โpersuadeโ foreign deities to abandon the settlement and people they were protecting and be welcomed into Rome instead.
One historical (and well-known) case is the evocatio ofย Juno Reginaย fromย Veii, an Etruscan city in 396 BCE (Beard, North, Price, 1998, pp. 34-35) and dedicated a temple for her on the Aventine Hill in 392 BCE (Orlin, 2002, p. 1).
Conversely, as a result of outward territorial expansion and subsequent cultural diffusion, Romans could also bring their own deities and syncretize with a local foreign deity using their name as an epithet. One example beingย Jupiter Dolichenusย (Nash-Williams, 1952, p. 72), a syncretic amalgamation of Jupiter with a Hittite-Hurrian deity, from Doliche, in Roman Syria. In this context, instead of a foreign deity adopting a local Roman deityโs name as epithet (as seen with Isis), a deity from Rome has rather syncretized with the local deity in their own land as an attempt to adapt to the boundaries beyond Romeโs borders and perhaps even vernacular contexts of the region.
Alternatively, within the theme of cultural diffusion of Roman religion and adaptation into the local landscape of foreign soil, aspects of Roman religious tradition could also syncretize with the local cultural, religious, and political landscape. After the Battle of Actium in 31 BCE and the eventual conquest of Egypt in 30 BCE, Augustus constructed temples in honor of Isis wherein certain reliefs of the temple iconography represented himself as a pharaoh, often standing in front of Isisโand other Egyptian deitiesโgiving offerings. Such reliefs displayed Augustusโย pietasย as symbolic representations of appeasement in effort to legitimize authority by perpetuating narratives of succession through romanization of Egyptian temple architecture and iconography representing Egyptian deities) which would also reinforce Roman cultural hegemony. Isisโ association with divine motherhood and relation to her son Horus/Harpocratesโwho was also typically understood to be materially represented through the Pharaohโwas also utilized as a political symbol of legitimacy. Additionally, in the Temple of Isis in Dendur, Augustus is represented not only giving offerings to Isis and Egyptian deities like Osiris and Harpocrates, but also to Nubian deities like Pedesi and Pihor (see Stรผnkel, 2018).
Roman (re)constructions of Isaic temples are solid examples of how religious traditionsโincluding deitiesโcan go through several layers of adaptation where the temples arenโt only adapted into romanized versions of their Egyptian inspirations but temples like Dendur can also include vernacular aspects of the local region.captioDetail depicting Augustus (left) offering milk to Osiris, Isis, and Harpocrates.n...Detail depicting Augustus (left) burning incense and making a libation (a liquid offering) to the deified brothers Pedesi and Pihor (center and right).
Per contra, scholars (Kaizer, 2006, p. 29, Orlin, 2002, p. 2) have also scrutinized the framing of deitiesโincluding various aspects of religious traditionsโas โโforeignโโ for its wording often being embedded with presuppositions of religious traditions and deities as homogenous standards from their โโnativeโโ origins (i.e. โโnativeโโ pantheon or landscape).
To elaborate, even though Isisโ โโoriginalโโ or โโnativeโโ pantheon and landscape may have been Egypt, her cult had already gone through centuries of veneration and iterations (i.e. Isis being associated, syncretized, and venerated alongside other various deities) among Greeks since 5th century BCE (Beard, North, & Price, 1998b, p. 297) until her arrival in Italy around late 2nd century BCE. In addition, Isisโ name can even be found in pyramid texts that trace back to the fifth dynasty around 2494-2345 BCE (Glomb, 2022, p. 7). Isis was not a static deity, even to the Egyptians themselves, and the same logic can be applied to Roman deities as well; furthermore, the same logic can and should also be applied to religious traditions as a whole too. Deities, like their relational religious tradition(s), can be better understood as assemblages that go through perpetual dialectical evolution in relation to their external conditions and circumstances.
Such critical commentaries are crucial to take into consideration because it problematizes rather overgeneralized and oversimplified notions of โโSyncretism.โโ Furthermore, this might even lead one to question the โโnativityโโ of Roman religion itself, which brings us back to the earlier passage by Beard, North, and Price: โโRoman religion was always already multicultural.โโ
In a future article I will elaborate upon these recent commentaries by exploring and discussing the reframing of Roman religious tradition as a machinic assemblage to further deconstruct monolithic notions of a homogenous Roman religion.
Reference List
Agard, W. R. (1935). Apollo Polymorphous.ย The Classical Journal, 31(2), 99โ107.ย http://www.jstor.org/stable/3290818.
Beard, M., North, J., & Price, S. (1998a).ย Religions of Rome: Volume 1, A History. Cambridge University Press.
Beard, M., North, J., & Price, S. (1998b).ย Religions of Rome: Volume 2, A Sourcebook. Cambridge University Press.
Bowden, H. (2023).ย Mystery Cults in the Ancient World. Thames & Hudson.
Glomb, T. (2022).ย Connecting the Isiac Cults: Formal Modeling in the Hellenistic Mediterranean. Bloomsbury Academic
Kaizer, T. (2006). In Search of Oriental Cults. Methodological Problems concerning โthe Particularโ and โthe Generalโ in near Eastern Religion in the Hellenistic and Roman Periods.ย Historia: Zeitschrift Fรผr Alte Geschichte,ย 55(1), 26โ47.ย http://www.jstor.org/stable/4436797.
Kennedy, J. (2024). Pathogenesis: How Germs Made History. Penguin (Transworld).
Miller, J. (2004). Ovid and Augustan Apollo.ย Hermathena, (177/178), 165โ180.ย http://www.jstor.org/stable/23041546.
Mazurek. L. A. (2022).ย Isis in a Global Empire: Greek Identity through Egyptian Religion in Roman Greece. Cambridge University Press.
Nash-Williams, V. E. (1952). Iuppiter Dolichenus.ย Greece & Rome,ย 21(62), 72โ77.ย http://www.jstor.org/stable/640970.
Orlin, E. M. (2002). Foreign Cults in Republican Rome: Rethinking the Pomerial Rule.ย Memoirs of the American Academy in Rome,ย 47, 1โ18.ย https://doi.org/10.2307/4238789.
Further Readings
Burton, P. J. (1996). The Summoning of the Magna Mater to Rome (205 B.C.).ย Historia: Zeitschrift Fรผr Alte Geschichte,ย 45(1), 36โ63.ย http://www.jstor.org/stable/4436406.
Tobin, V. A. (1991). Isis and Demeter: Symbols of Divine Motherhood.ย Journal of the American Research Center in Egypt, 28, 187โ200.ย https://doi.org/10.2307/40000579.
Stรผnkel, I. (2018, November 2).ย The Templeโs Cult and Decoration. Metropolitan Museum.ย https://www.metmuseum.org/essays/temple-of-dendur-cult-and-decoration.
Footnotes
1 | according to โโHymns to Isisโโ โ by Isidorus (in Hymn I, 14-22), Isis was also interpreted as the Mother of the gods by some (specifically Thracians).
All mortals who live on the boundless earth, โ
Thracians, Greeks and barbarians, โ
Express Your fair Name, a Name greatly honoured among all, butโ
Each speak in his own language, in his own landโ
The Syrians call You: Astarte, Artemis, Nanaiaโ
The Lycian tribes call You: Leto, the Lady;โ
The Thracians also name You asย Mother of the godsโ
And the Greeks call you Hera of the Great Throne, Aphrodite,โ
Hestia the good, Rheia and Demeter.
2 | Apollo Actius is said to have existed since 7th century BCE with the construction of the Temple of Apollo Aktios or Actian Apollo, but his cult rose in popularity under Augustus after the battle of Actium.
Lately Iโve been interested in how online Hellenic Polytheistic spaces influence our practice, outlooks, and even mental health.
If you feel so inclined, in the tags/reblogs feel free to share your experiences with the subreddit, even if itโs just a word or two!
Iโll probably make polls for other online spaces, but wanted to start with a non-tumblr or TikTok space, and r/hellenism is the biggest subreddit for the community.
This is the first ever entirely unraveled papyrus scroll from the great Herculaneum library. In its entirety. The technology that allowed us to do this will make it easier to unravel every single one of the thousands of scrolls still waiting to be read within the library.
Herculaneum was buried in ash thousands of years ago, along with Pompeii. The above text is Philodemusโ On Gods, written around the 1st century BC. Other Hellenistic works are expected to follow it. Upwards of twenty-five-thousand scrolls are thought to still be down there. Tantalizing us.
Philodemus is thought to be the owner of the villa and a philosophy enthusiast, hence the abundance of such texts already discovered and partially decrypted before now. In my mind, this is the most important historical innovation of the millennium. This will revolutionize our understandings of Greece and Rome. Itโs already helped us discover the precise location of Platoโs tomb.
I, for one, am hopeful about the preservation of the works of ancient female writers. Many women wrote manuals of proper behavior, or their own philosophical interpretations of the world. Thatโs whatโs most exciting to me. Also learning the names of poetesses and philosophresses weโve never heard of before. AHH this is so exciting
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They should never let me in the british museum bc I will steal this stamnos.
Look at THE OUTFIT! also the fawn torn in half....Dionysus is having either a very good or a very rough day. I should draw him in this fit though some day, it's sick. He has a woollen sweater....boots....tail....
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I want to follow up on this post, and briefly discuss the debate around how much influence, if any, the Dionysian cult had over the development of Christianity. The short answer is: "Not much."
There are actual parallels between Jesus and Dionysus โ a lot, actually! (Especially in comparison to most of the other gods who are compared to Jesus. Lookin' at you, Horus...) Here are some of those parallels:
Dionysus is the only Olympian who's the son of a human woman. (As said in the last post, I believe he was always fully-divine, not a demigod, and most sources seem to support that.) He's the son of a human woman and the Lord of Heaven. Being the son of Zeus isn't terribly notable in Greek mythology, but Dionysus is consistently identified with Zeus in a way that his other sons aren't (down to his very name). In Orphism, Dionysus is the heir of Zeus, the next Lord of the Universe, and therefore a version of Zeus himself.
He was hidden away as a baby to keep him safe from the persecution of a powerful figure. This is a common trope in "divine king" myths โ it's the case for not just Jesus, but also Zeus, Horus, and Krishna. The exact details of Dionysus' childhood vary; sometimes he's raised by nymphs in the mythical valley of Nysa, sometimes he's raised by his mortal aunt Ino and her family, etc. Sometimes he's guarded by the Kouretes/Korybantes, further identifying him with Zeus.
He died and was resurrected. You're probably familiar with the "Orphic" version of Dionysus' origin story, in which he is the son of Persephone and Zeus. Zeus named Dionysus his heir, and took him to Olympus, giving him thunderbolts. Hera was angry about this, and sent the Titans to lure baby Dionysus away from the thunderbolts with toys. They dismembered and ate him. Athena was able to save his heart, and he was reincarnated as the son of Semele. In one version of this myth, the Titans were burnt to ashes by Zeus' thunderbolts, and humanity rose from those ashes, containing the "base" essence of the Titans and the divine essence of Dionysus. (Though Radcliffe Edmonds, a leading scholar of Orphism, points out that this myth is often interpreted in very Christianized ways. There is no "original sin" in Orphism, and it's debatable if it's salvific at all.)
He spent most of his early years walking the earth, spreading his cult with a band of "disciples" (read: deranged cultists) called the thiasus. The thiasus consisted of Maenads (madwomen who could be either human or nymphs), satyrs, and Dionysus' notable followers like his wife Ariadne and Silenus. Dionysus spread his cult directly, going from city to city to teach winemaking and encourage humans to worship him. This direct participation in his own worship is very unusual for a Greek god.
He was persecuted and interrogated. Almost every major location in Greece has a myth about the initial rejection of Dionysus' cult, because of how intrinsically controversial it is. This is also very unusual for a Greek god; other gods' worship is never contested like this. Dionysus has to force the locals to worship him through displays of divine power and strange punishments. The most notable myth of this type is that of Pentheus, the subject of The Bacchae by Euripides. In The Bacchae, Pentheus interrogates Dionysus. This scene is so similar to the interrogation of Jesus by Pontius Pilate, that there's some speculation that the former directly inspired the latter. (Although the gods' responses, in words and in actions, could not be more different.)
His worshippers physically take him into their bodies via wine. Dionysus' worshippers believed that by drinking wine, they could become temporarily possessed by him, and therefore closer to the divine. The trance state produced by wine also opens one to ecstatic mystical experiences. There are some sources (e.g. Tiresias' speech in The Bacchae) that say that wine literally is Dionysus.
This seems like a slam dunk, right? Well, no. Contrary to what internet memes might make you think, mythological similarities don't mean anything by themselves. It's notable that there are so many of them in this case, but they're not evidence. Evidence would be syncretism, or other cross-pollination between the two cults. There's some shaky Biblical evidence, e.g. Jesus saying "I am the true vine" implies that there is a "false" one. There's also the emphasis on wine in general in both cults, and the idea of theophagy, i.e. physically imbibing the god. But while this implies a connection, it doesn't prove one.
Beyond that, there's very little actual evidence that Christianity was directly influenced by the Dionysian cult, or even that they interacted at all. The one actual example of syncretism between the two cults (that I know of) is this:
This is a stone depicting a crucified man, inscribed with the names of Orpheus and Bacchus. It dates to roughly the second or third century CE, which means it's from after the birth and spread of Christianity. That means it's not proof that Dionysus influenced Christianity, it's actually proof of the opposite! This was probably made by a pagan who adopted Christian iconography in their worship of Dionysus and/or Orpheus.
Internet posts (and some books) treat this as if it's some kind of gotcha. It's not. This is syncretism, guys. This is how religions work. There's plenty of examples of Christians adopting pagan motifs or iconography. What's notable about this one is that it's a rare example of pagans adopting Christian iconography, and it's a point of contact between Jesus and the Dionysian cult/Orphism specifically. Unfortunately, it was lost in WWII, so we'll never know any more about it than we do now.
And... that's it. That's pretty much the extent of the evidence for interaction between Christianity and the Dionysian cult: A lost stone, some mythic parallels, and the fact that wine is an important thing. I'm not seeing the smoking gun.
The thing is, even if the Dionysian cult directly inspired Christianity (and I'll grant that it's plausible), that's still not a gotcha. That's
โจ SYNCRETISM โจ
...and syncretism is a normal thing that normal religions do. Some Christians may want to pretend that their religion sprang fully-formed out of a vacuum, but no scholar who studies early Christianity (including Christian ones!) actually believes that.
Putting on my mystic's hat now, I don't think that it's surprising that Christianity and the Dionysian cult share so much common ground, becuase they're both mystery religions. Mystery religions tend to have a lot in common, almost by nature. I recently published a post about the continuity between different mystical traditions that I've personally noticed, and it's also common for the Greco-Roman mystery cults to treat each other kind of interchangeably (e.g. the Orphic Hymn to Mise, or Isis' speech at the end of The Golden Ass). Christianity began as essentially a public mystery sect of Judaism. I think that, through its Hellenization, it absorbed a lot of concepts common to Greek mystery cults in general. The same goes for comparisons between Jesus and Attis or Adonis; pretty much all the parallels amount to, "hey, I think Christianity is a mystery cult!" to which I reply, "NO SHIT, SHERLOCK!"
Bottom line, anyone who is more interested in debunking or discrediting Christianity than they are in paganism cannot be trusted as a source on this topic.