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@dewyatt @skullcat23-blog @luna-bimborina @baradorable @majingojira @thestomping-ground @movalise (and others feel free to answer!)

What do you think Laura would be like today, if she retained her earlier characterization created by KYOST, Liu, Quesada, and Gage?

What do you think her solo title would have looked like, if we didn’t have the direction change via Bendis/Hopeless/Taylor?

I already answered some of what I thought- but I am curious what others answers would be?

Would Julian and Laura have reconnected? Would Julian have simply moved on?

What would have happened with Kimura?

Would Laura have broken free of the trigger scent?

I think the OG tone would continue BUT it would ultimately phase out and transform into what Taylor wrote in ANW.

Its possible that a Julian/Laura reconciliation COULD have happened, but it would all depend on the writer. So far I would say that the majority of Laura's solo writer's haven't been too keen on it or indifferent. Again it would also depend on if a writer wanted to do something with Julian at the time.

The Trigger Scent was going to go sooner or later IMO. As that is kinda of a big hurdle for Laura to clear. I do think it should have been ongoing psychic therapy as opposed to Jean just going "Poof! I fixed it...suck it Emma"

I feel like Laura fans started dropping off during the Taylor era- while it definitely brought in new fans, a lot of hardcore KYOST fans lost interest.

Since then, I feel like fans of the Taylor, Liu and KYOST eras have been steadily dropping off more and more.

I at least felt like the recent “NYX” run was “closure” on the Babysitters arc and frankly a good place to end for me. It came to a point where I realized this year that I don’t like Laura’s modern characterization that much, I know at this point they will never give us Hellix, and the runs after Taylor have been pretty mediocre.

I’ll still read the old books but unless things change drastically - I’m probably not bothering to keep up with the modern solos.

@dewyatt @skullcat23-blog @luna-bimborina @baradorable @majingojira @thestomping-ground @movalise (and others feel free to answer!)

What do you think Laura would be like today, if she retained her earlier characterization created by KYOST, Liu, Quesada, and Gage?

What do you think her solo title would have looked like, if we didn’t have the direction change via Bendis/Hopeless/Taylor?

I already answered some of what I thought- but I am curious what others answers would be?

Would Julian and Laura have reconnected? Would Julian have simply moved on?

What would have happened with Kimura?

Would Laura have broken free of the trigger scent?

I think the OG tone would continue BUT it would ultimately phase out and transform into what Taylor wrote in ANW.

Its possible that a Julian/Laura reconciliation COULD have happened, but it would all depend on the writer. So far I would say that the majority of Laura's solo writer's haven't been too keen on it or indifferent. Again it would also depend on if a writer wanted to do something with Julian at the time.

The Trigger Scent was going to go sooner or later IMO. As that is kinda of a big hurdle for Laura to clear. I do think it should have been ongoing psychic therapy as opposed to Jean just going "Poof! I fixed it...suck it Emma"

@dewyatt @skullcat23-blog @luna-bimborina @baradorable @majingojira @thestomping-ground @movalise (and others feel free to answer!)

What do you think Laura would be like today, if she retained her earlier characterization created by KYOST, Liu, Quesada, and Gage?

What do you think her solo title would have looked like, if we didn’t have the direction change via Bendis/Hopeless/Taylor?

I already answered some of what I thought- but I am curious what others answers would be?

Would Julian and Laura have reconnected? Would Julian have simply moved on?

What would have happened with Kimura?

Would Laura have broken free of the trigger scent?

I think the OG tone would continue BUT it would ultimately phase out and transform into what Taylor wrote in ANW.

Its possible that a Julian/Laura reconciliation COULD have happened, but it would all depend on the writer. So far I would say that the majority of Laura's solo writer's haven't been too keen on it or indifferent. Again it would also depend on if a writer wanted to do something with Julian at the time.

The Trigger Scent was going to go sooner or later IMO. As that is kinda of a big hurdle for Laura to clear. I do think it should have been ongoing psychic therapy as opposed to Jean just going "Poof! I fixed it...suck it Emma"

Emma never got to see what was happening in Laura’s head when she was under the effects, but Kimura kindly provided a sample for them to work with.

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Look i'm not saying Laura and Julian should take over and rule Madripoor....BUT NYC is already SUPER crowded with heroes and Julian is probably still a wanted criminal....

so Madripoor might be a nice getaway for a while

I would KILL for this book right now LOL 😭😭😭

I totally forgot a new issue was even dropping this Wednesday until someone messaged me spoilers….

(possible SPOILER ahead!)

Please tell me they didn’t bring back Kimura! Please tell me Marvel has not scraped the bottom of the barrel of Laura plotlines that that’s all they can creatively think to do….🫢

As someone guessed, Centipede Lady has...some part of Kimura, but she isn't like a clone or a resurrection. It's not very clear what they did. She also doesn't last long; Laura makes pretty short work of her.

Laura's writing is as good as before, and we get some great moments of her speed and agility on display.

Infinite turned on her as predicted, though he's not actually working with the Facility, and is taking the "extremist" approach to trying to save the others.

The biggest surprise is X-80.

They're pulling the "time traveler is dead, but that just means an earlier version pops back up later on" thing. Or it's some weird quantum mechanics shenanigans where X-80 can exist at multiple points in her timeline all at once so she's Schrodinger's Chimaera and both alive and dead at the same time.

I still think that the story itself is fine, and is enjoyable in a vaccum. It's well-paced, Laura's writing is strong, and the Generated are conceptually interesting characters. The core problem is Marvel has already relied so much on clones and chimaeras both recently and in general with Laura, and they've introduced too many characters across multiple series all at once (though to be fair, that's the same thing Academy X did, basically creating an entire student body).

But honestly that’s my biggest problem with this book in general- all of it feels unimportant in the grand scheme of things.

All the characters feel like copies of better characters/stories. All the art is filled with nostalgia “Don’t you remember this scene” wink/wink.

There’s just nothing to get excited or care about. It’s in some ways worse than Tamaki’s run or even Schultz, in that at least there was SOMETHING to get intrigued by in those books.

I totally forgot a new issue was even dropping this Wednesday until someone messaged me spoilers….

(possible SPOILER ahead!)

Please tell me they didn’t bring back Kimura! Please tell me Marvel has not scraped the bottom of the barrel of Laura plotlines that that’s all they can creatively think to do….🫢

As someone guessed, Centipede Lady has...some part of Kimura, but she isn't like a clone or a resurrection. It's not very clear what they did. She also doesn't last long; Laura makes pretty short work of her.

Laura's writing is as good as before, and we get some great moments of her speed and agility on display.

Infinite turned on her as predicted, though he's not actually working with the Facility, and is taking the "extremist" approach to trying to save the others.

The biggest surprise is X-80.

They're pulling the "time traveler is dead, but that just means an earlier version pops back up later on" thing. Or it's some weird quantum mechanics shenanigans where X-80 can exist at multiple points in her timeline all at once so she's Schrodinger's Chimaera and both alive and dead at the same time.

I still think that the story itself is fine, and is enjoyable in a vaccum. It's well-paced, Laura's writing is strong, and the Generated are conceptually interesting characters. The core problem is Marvel has already relied so much on clones and chimaeras both recently and in general with Laura, and they've introduced too many characters across multiple series all at once (though to be fair, that's the same thing Academy X did, basically creating an entire student body).

Gabby is fine… in small doses…

Honestly my biggest complaints with Gabby and Tom Taylor’s writing is missed story potential with Laura struggling with raising a child after her own messed up experiences… and Taylor using Gabby as a crutch because he struggled to really “write” Laura.

Tamaki I thought actually wrote a more interesting dynamic between them- like Laura not understanding Gabby’s fixation with having a “birthday” or seeing Scout as a sister, where Laura sees it as “just another clone”.

My other complaint is how little we actually see Gabby’s past or how much writers forget that she was also a trained assassin.

And he was a million times better than “Xarus” or “Zane Creed” 🙄😒

Gabby is fine… in small doses…

Honestly my biggest complaints with Gabby and Tom Taylor’s writing is missed story potential with Laura struggling with raising a child after her own messed up experiences… and Taylor using Gabby as a crutch because he struggled to really “write” Laura.

Tamaki I thought actually wrote a more interesting dynamic between them- like Laura not understanding Gabby’s fixation with having a “birthday” or seeing Scout as a sister, where Laura sees it as “just another clone”.

My other complaint is how little we actually see Gabby’s past or how much writers forget that she was also a trained assassin.

Truthfully… “Arrogant Laura” is my favorite Laura 🤣😭

“Your data is flawed.”

2. “You were stupid.”

3. “The only tactical recourse Cyclops has is to kill you”…

4. “I am highly proficient in racquetball.”

5. “Worthington cannot be trusted.”

6. “They survived.”

7. “You are both breaking radio silence.”

8. “He had to be punished.”/ “Should I cut off his other ear.”

9. “He is not dead. You saved him.”

10. “What is my mission?”

11. “We should go to school now. I do not like to be late.”

12. “What kind of training does your mother have?”

GENERATION X-23 #7 JODY HOUSER (W) • MARCO RENNA (A) COVER BY PARTHA PRATIM SARKAR VARIANT COVER BY Rickie Yagawa VARIANT COVER BY TBA LOGAN CARVES A PATH FOR THE NEXT GENERATION! Meeting X-23 was shocking enough – don’t miss it when the Generated cross paths with the OG WOLVERINE! But LOGAN’s in a bad way – and only this crew can help him! 32 PGS./Rated T+ …$3.99

As I kind of expected after the solicit for #6 the book is continuing, and I suspect it's got a 10-issue order.

I’d feel bad… but this to me is yet another example of Marvel giving fans the finger and denying them what they actually want.