This is an independent RP & Ask Blog for the DC Comics (New Earth) character Inertia (Thad Thawne) set after his death as Kid Zoom.
Important Information Before Interacting: I’ve been RP-ing this version of Thad for thirteen years, so there are aspects of him that may seem very different due to the fact I’ve been writing this long.
In general: He’s older (21-23, his age is dependent upon Verses and characters), he’s had more experiences which have affected him, has connection to characters he hasn’t interacted with in canon (such as Barry Allen), and has had more time to reflect on his past actions which have led him to certain outlooks on life and his past.
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You can call me: Dove; She/Her (30+)
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Ok, I have seen the opinion that Thad’s characterization after the Impulse (1994) comics is bad, wrong, doesn’t make sense, or is inconsistent with his character in Impulse. I am here to tell you that his character after Impulse does make sense and is consistent with his character that we see in Impulse. (Except for Rogues' Revenge. I will fight that one a bit.)
Because what connects his character in Impulse (1994) to his character in Flash: The Fastest Man Alive, Teen Titans (2003), All-Flash, and Final Crisis: Rogues Revenge is Thad’s hatred for Bart and the evolution of that hatred. His hatred for Bart starts out as a familial obligation via the Allen-Thawne feud that we see in Impulse #53, and then in Impulse #66 is shown to develop into something more personal while he is impersonating Bart and living his life.
People say that Thad’s character post Impulse is inconsistent because of these pages and where his character is left at this point:
Impulse #66
But, I’d argue it’s not inconsistent with his future appearance because Thad despite what he's learned is still shown here to be a teenager full of anger and hatred. Yes, he does learn that his family has been using him, that he’s a tool for vengeance, that he has never experienced his family’s love or pride for him, and that his entire life up until this point has empty and dedicated to other’s hatred. But understanding this is not the same as actively changing. Thad had the potential to change for the good of his own life, just as he had the potential to accept Max’s offer to live and train to be a hero with him as well as to actually experience familial love and friendship, but he did not accept that offer nor did he change (in terms of his behavior or attitude) because of his hatred for Bart:
Impulse #66
(Note here in these pages, that Thad specifically states that he doesn't want this happy life if Bart is a part of it.)
Thad denies himself the opportunity of the lifetime, one chance that could completely change his life for the better, because his hatred for Bart gets the better of him and it does not change in Impulse or even his latter appearances (Final Crisis: Rogues Revenge might be an exception because he states he doesn't want Bart's life then).
So what we are left with at the end of Impulse before Thad runs off into the Speed Force is Thad being a teenager full of hatred in contrast to Bart, who is a teenager full of love. More specifically he is left with a more “personal” hatred.
Yes, it’s implied that this anger is aimed towards his family, the Thawne family, (and it may even be directed towards Bart and Max too as he says “I hate you all”) but that doesn’t mean the anger and hatred he’s shown towards Bart has suddenly gone away either. By the end of Impulse #66, his last appearance in the series, we don’t see Thad having significantly learned or changed with regard to his character, attitude, behaviors, or his feelings towards Bart. He recognizes he’s been used, but instead, what we are left with at the end of his appearance in Impulse is a character with even more hatred and anger than he began with in Impulse.
So Thad’s character is just as actively primed for the hatred that he shows Bart in Flash: The Fastest Man Alive and Teen Titans as it is for the potential to change. However, canonically and inevitably his character continues with this path and characterization of hatred towards Bart. Which we see in his next significant appearance in Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #7:
This hatred for Bart is compounded with the events that lead to Bart being the only speedster left with a connection to the Speed Force, which is why Thad is without his speed and using Velocity 9. Thad wants his speed back, but also his hatred for Bart is personal as he states that,
“Shooting up like a back-alley junkie, playing Mota’s tech support geek. This is what Bart Allen’s driven me to,” and thinks that, “Hoarding Speed Force…Growing up overnight…[Bart] thinks he’s better than me, that he has no equal. Big mistake.”
All of this is personal to Thad just as it was during Impulse. Just as Thad is comparing himself to Bart in this panel from Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #7, he compares himself and shows his anxieties toward Bart and being Bart’s clone in Impulse #53:
"To think...I was apprehensive about our meeting. Worried about what you might be capable of..."
Impulse #53
As well as displays his desire to be better than Bart, which is also seen in Impulse #53:
“I’m smarter than you! Stronger than you—Better than you in every way!”
Through the events of F:FMA and Teen Titans Thad’s hatred towards Bart is personal, consistent in wanting Bart dead just as he did during Impulse, but it also has grown to an obsessive level because he puts being better than Bart and wanting to kill him before everything else as he betrays multiple people (Mota, Sungirl, and the Rogues) in order to prove himself. So this is an evolution of the hatred he’s shown in Impulse. He still wants to kill Bart just as he did in Impulse, but he will do so by any means possible, even if it’s at a potential detriment to himself via the people he’s betrayed, his use of Velocity 9, which has a history of being a lethal drug (though not in this case), killing Bart, a beloved hero which creates a clear fallout/chaotic set of consequences, or even if it means his own death (as seen through how he and Bart fight with such a desperation to kill each other and how the Black Flash (Death) lingers around their fight).
Within F:FMA this hatred Thad has shown culminates in Thad successfully killing Bart, and though we do not see his reaction to Bart's death in F:FMA, we do see him comment upon it in All-Flash, with joy:
In All-Flash, there is still a consistency to his character that can be traced back to Impulse, but also F: FMA and Teen Titans (2003). We see his hatred for Bart in how he talks about him to Wally, as seen above, but we also see a continuation of the self destructive behavior, behavior that is a detriment to himself and his life that he shows in F: FMA and Teen Titans (2003) through how he interacts with Wally after the older speedster has already caught him and is draining him of his speed:
All-Flash
He lies to Wally about how Bart dies.
All Flash
Tries to convince him that Bart losing his speed and that Bart’s death was Wally’s fault!
Thad is jabbing and jabbing at Wally while the threat of violence and death from Wally is looming all around him. Though Wally doesn't kill him, the older speedster instead does steals his speed from him, turning him into a living statue that is put on display in the Flash Museum (which almost burns down with him in it in Flash Vol. 2 #241), and forced to stare at Bart’s image. This is stated to be a fate worse than death.
"I can't cross that line. I can't kill him. So I do something worse." - Wally West
All-Flash
Now as for Final Crisis: Rogues' Revenge, Thad’s character is not great, but if you think of the circumstances surrounding his character during this comic it makes more sense. It’s still not great, but it can make sense. Thad prior to the beginning of Rogue’s Revenge has been a living statue that’s been up on public display in The Flash Museum, which almost burned down with him in it. What Wally has done to him—stealing his speed, putting him up on public display, and forcing him to unblinkingly stare at Bart's image— is torture or at the least cruel and unusual punishment by a hero, plain and simple. Wally even specifically describes at the end of All-Flash that this punishment is “worse” than death. No one would come out of that kind of situation in their right mind, so it’s unsurprising that when Thad is released from his stasis he is vengeful and (still) murderous (that's been a consistent trait since Impulse), but this time he’s going after Wally’s kids, two people who are also very important to Wally.
They really turn up the dial on Thad being indiscriminately murderous in this comic and while I don’t like it, it’s not exactly out of character or unreasonable for his character at this point. He's shown that he has no qualms about murder and has endangered civilian's before (Impulse #52-53). For the rest of this comic he acts under the alias of Kid Zoom, but it’s not because he wants to. Hunter Zolomon forces him to be Kid Zoom under the threat of taking his speed away from him and/or killing him:
Zoom threatens to take his speed away again.
Final Crisis: Rogues Revenge #1
Thad is forced into the role of Kid Zoom.
*Note: Zoom saying that Thad wanted to be Bart/have his life is inaccurate with regard to his motivations shown in F:FMA.
Final Crisis: Rogues Revenge #2
Zoom is also forcing Thad into the role of Kid Zoom for his own reasons: #1. Being his usual reasoning of "making heroes better" and #2 because this is a part of Libra’s plan:
However, as for killing Josh Mardon, that has less to do with Thad’s character than it does with moving parts of the Final Crisis event forward. Thad’s character at this point I would say is inaccurate as he's portrayed as a petulant, impatient, edgy teenager by the time Rogues Revenge #3 comes around, but it also sort of understandable considering that he wants nothing to do with being Kid Zoom, listening to Hunter or being a part of making heroes better through Hunter’s unique methods as an antagonist, or Libra’s plan. He’s been forced onto this ride, gives no damns, and just wants to make everything worse for everyone else because it has nothing to do with him and doesn’t satisfy his wants or goals, which is honestly the most in character part for Thad in this comic:
Thad at this point just wants to cause heroes pain like they’ve caused him pain which is very in-character for him and what he experienced in All-Flash. It's all a bit personal to him.
It's not good characterization for him, but overall Thad in Final Crisis: Rogues Revenge is honestly more of a cog to make certain events happen than a character at this point because he is just a small part of a much larger event, Final Crisis, so I don’t blame people ignoring this comic. It’s not my favorite either. Very, very far from it actually. But mercifully he is killed off in Rogues Revenge, and that essentially gives us an ending point to his whole arc of obsessive hatred towards Bart, which is that a hatred that deep only leads to destruction.
Ultimately Thad's actions, character, and motivation are consistent to Impulse with regard to his appearances in Flash: FMA, Teen Titans (2003), and All-Flash. He’s not pure evil, he's not a villain for no reason, and nothing about him has really changed. He’s a teenager full of hatred that began due to his upbringing and that then later developed into a personal grudge against Bart because of his own hang ups. His hatred just continues to twist him more and more and that’s it and it culminates in his own death. It’s honestly more apt to think of him not as villain, but as a teenager who was unable let go of his grudge.
I’m not saying these comics are good, that they were good to the characterization of other characters (Bart in TT and F:FMA, Thad in Rogues Revenge) or that you have to like them, but in how Thad is portrayed, they are consistent with his character from what is shown in the Impulse comics. Thad absolutely could have learned from his interaction with Max, but that's not the direction his character went. It may not be your preference for how his character development went, but both directions are valid and plausible.
I also personally think that these appearances do add to Thad’s character and allow you to explore his character in multiple different directions, such as through themes of hatred, self destruction that we see in All-Flash, his inevitable mutual destruction with how both he and Bart die in the end, and just how being a clone affects his personal hatred for Bart and why that makes it so personal, just to name a few.
So while they are not great or good comics as a whole, they do hold value and add to Thad's character.
Who do you think would hate Thad and who do you think would be in his corner in the flash family if he were to ever return?
I feel like it's always a guarantee that Wally and iris would hate him but what about the rest? Who would want to throw him to the curb and who would want to keep him around to try and help him?
HATE as in "We don't kill, but for HIM that is an exception" - Iris 100%. The only thing Iris has ever felt for that boy is pure loathing and disgust and had zero remorse after learning what Wally did to him. If she wasn't absolutely terrified of changing history or altering the timeline she probably would have found a way to kill him in the tank before he was even born.
EXTREME dislike, hate, loathing, will NOT talk to or be friendly with in the slightest it is a FIGHT on sight - Jay, Wally and Bart. They won't murder him, but they will turn him into a living statue and break his legs before using him as a projectile weapon and not feel bad about it at all. But they won't kill him. They don't want to open their homes to him, they don't want to forgive him. The threshold for talking is done the second Thad actually succeeded in killing Bart. It's done.
Dislike, but is willing to open a dialogue - Max. He doesn't trust him and is extremely cautious of him. He tried hard to get him to abandon his quest for murder in the Speed Force, but there was no future Thad wanted with Max that also had Bart in it. Max knows what he is capable of, what he wants, and what he WILL do. Thad saw the alternative life he could have had and denied it. Still... Max is old, has seen things and done things himself, and while he is not a perfect man or a perfect mentor for teens, he knows when someone has been damaged so he's willing to talk to him if necessary.
Cautious, but willing to try to help him - Barry. Everyone hates him for it but Barry doesn't have any solid emotional ties to Bart (despite what Impulse 1995 implied and that is a "do with what you will" scenario), so knowing what he did doesn't impact him as much as the others. I know you hated reading that, but it is fact. He loves Bart but he just doesn't KNOW him or have a real bond with him. He's dealt with clones killing loves ones before, he's murdered before as a response to it, but Thad is a child soldier. This is going into headcanon territory but it wouldn't be unbelievable for Barry to believe that he is partially responsible for the feud the Thawne line carried into the 30th century because he murdered Eobard - thus he helped create Thad in the first place, and was unintentionally at fault for the murder of his own children. It's unfair and a lot to put on that blonde man but it's not unbelievable. So he takes on Thad, to redeem him, to redeem himself, because it might be the "right" thing to do for a person that had clearly been created without love or even a care for his autonomy. Everyone is unhappy, Iris is betrayed, Bart feels even more betrayed because why does his murderer get to bond more with Barry than he ever did? 🙃
Bonus
Total oblivious but takes the kid in and only puts two and two together years later and by then it's too late - John Fox. Look, he does have records of history but it's still pretty spotty. But he found this gremlin somewhere in the 4700s stranded and offered to take him home to the 853rd century and Thad just.... stayed there. It's pretty quiet and it's not at all bad being one of three speedsters and no one is trying to kill you on sight. When John finds out it's been years and he hasn't DONE anything other than snap at Impulse One Million, who snapped back at him. <- entirely headcanon
Note: this is for the COMICS and the comics alone, no other form of media. This is also taking into consideration current canon with FMA and Thad's ultimate goal in Mercury Falling - to kill Bart, specifically.
Note two: If anyone wanted a feel good ending for Thad, please check out my Ao3 where there are some Thad fics exploring him taking Max's offer and abandoning his quest.
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write smut. not just on sundays but every day, at any time. you're an adult, it's your blog.
write explicit gross kinky furry anatomically incorrect smut. be gross, be cursed.
sex isn't inherently immoral, shameful or sinful. there's nothing wrong or icky or sus about adults writing about adult characters enjoying, experimenting and learning about sex. there's nothing wrong or icky or sus about you having fun with fictional p0rn about adult characters.
and if someone doesn't want to see it for whatever reason, they should use the filtering features to curate their dashboard.
at the end of the day if someone is deranged enough, they'll find a way to write a 50 page google doc about how you're a menace to society because your muse was once a minor, obviously adults are spawned middle aged from the get go and they've never been babies /s. no one with two working braincells will take them seriously.
✧˖°🌊°˖✧ 𝐂𝐄𝐑𝐄𝐌𝐎𝐍𝐈𝐀𝐋𝐒 𝐀𝐍𝐃 𝐑𝐔𝐈𝐍 ✧˖°🌊°˖✧ ··· a collection of wild hearts, divine violence, drowning in devotion & dancing with ghosts roleplay sentence starters inspired by FLORENCE + THE MACHINE. genre: gothic romance, mythic yearning, destructive love, spiritual hunger.
• I've been raising hell just to get your attention.
• You're the only thing I've ever worshipped, and look where it got me.
• I can feel it in my bones — something's coming, something big.
• Every demon wants his pound of flesh, and I think I'm ready to pay.
• Tell me, what does it feel like to be loved gently?
• I would've followed you into the dark. I did follow you into the dark.
• The saints can't help me now; I've already made my choice.
• I've got too much blood on my hands to hold yours.
• You keep asking me to be softer, but I was born with a storm in my chest.
• I don't pray anymore, except when I'm thinking of you.
• What kind of goddess would accept a sacrifice like me?
• The violence inside me has a name now — it's yours.
• You say you want honesty? I'm a holy fool and a shipwreck all at once.
• I can't tell if this is love or just another way to destroy myself.
• The birds are circling. That's never a good sign.
• I danced with the devil and he gave me your name.
• I've been digging my own grave since the day we met.
• There's a drumming in my chest, and it's not my heartbeat.
• How much of my soul did I sell to have this one night with you?
• The water's rising and I'm not sure I want to swim anymore.
• You can't save me. I don't even think I want you to try.
• I've been screaming your name into the void. Did you hear me?
• They say love is patient, but mine has teeth.
• I was born in a thunderstorm, and I'll die in one too.
• You touched me and I swear I saw god for a second.
• I'm not afraid of the fall. I'm afraid of how much I want it.
• The hunger in me doesn't have a cure, does it?
• Every chain I break just wraps around my throat in a different way.
• I would burn the whole world down if it meant keeping you warm.
• You say my name like it's a prayer. I say yours like it's a curse.
• I'm shaking the bells and calling the hounds — are you coming or not?
• There's something ritualistic about the way we ruin each other.
• I've been baptized in regret so many times I've lost count.
• The violence of the divine — that's what this feels like.
• I can't tell where I end and you begin anymore.
• You wanted a lover, but I came armed for war.
• I've been howling at the moon, hoping you'd hear me from wherever you are.
• The ghosts of everyone I used to be are watching us right now.
• I need you to understand: I am not delicate. I am not soft.
• The reckoning is coming. I can taste it in the air.
• You look at me like I'm salvation. I look at you like you're the end.
• There's a ceremony in this chaos — can you feel it?
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// THE Thad Thawne writer frfr . u are extremely knowledgeable about ur muse and comics in general its v admirable and comes thru in ur portrayal and rly is what makes u stick out imo . overall I think ur writing is very strong 🙂↕️
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//Omg!!! Aww that's so nice of you to say, Jinx! Thank you so much!!
"Someone has to keep it interesting around here, otherwise it'd be the same zip-zaps running zoomies around for their 16th blogging year. Shouldn't you guys be able to drive by now?"
"Well, that is true. No one else posts those furby abominations or," Thad squints, "String worms in situations like you do. And- Hey! I can drive. I've always been able to drive. I just choose not to."