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@deltaruminations
hello i'm a gay adult and i love delta's rune!!!!
i'm kind of an incorrigible lore guy at heart but i also like nice art and shitposts. also i guess i just post a lot about gaster now unfortunately
check out my gastor playlisdt⌠if u wantâŚ..
i have bluesky now. also
this is a sideblog, comments from @generative-adversarial-nitwit are me :)
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(busts through the wall leaving a me-shaped hole) rory and doc are both âGod,â one godhood across two individuals. also rory is a little stabby thing that flies around and âcourses its Will through its bladeâ meanwhile doc is associated with eggs and metaphorical wombs and refers coyly to new chapters as if he's pregnant with them. this is because they are the alpha and the omega (slides backward into the hole and disappears)
kingdings has always seemed very heavily tied to more dadly type understandings of gaster so i think it's funny that people are still into it even after the popularization of green and in between broster who died in his early 30s. asgore still holding a candle for his ex-wife while seeking intimacy with a 27 year old twink who is also his employee... very midlife crisis of him
i wonder if anyone else in the fandom thinks about roast chicken house as much as i do
toby posted this track just to fuck with me specifically i think. he was like hm what's a track from chapter 5 that everyone will mostly ignore except for that one lunatic on tumblr who will spend the next year and a half agonizing over whether or not there's a plausible man.ogg quote at 0:42
i wonder if anyone else in the fandom thinks about roast chicken house as much as i do
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when the question comes up of how kris knows penumbra horseshit like Songs From The Nondiegetic Soundtrack, Including Ones We Haven't Heard Yet etc. my hunch is that. i mean. they're working with the roaring knight. knight told them. if gaster's kid-lackey has the whole prophecy then i don't see why TRK's kid-lackey wouldn't also know some things. and i guess maybe that sounds anticlimactic and auraless compared to theories like "kris composed the soundtrack with dess during their games" or "deltarune is a timeloop and kris remembers previous loops" etc. but like i've said before i find it compelling to think that kris is an otherwise normal kid saddled with Jevil And Spamton Type Knowledge and is trying to process it like they are. they're trying to translate it into terms that make sense to them, and the terms that make sense to kris are the same ones we're using: video games. mods and hacks. Legend of Tenna. we know kris used to search up VGM piano tutorials. they're playing this music on the piano like it's a video game soundtrack, because a video game soundtrack isn't scary or overwhelming. they can understand a song and learn to play it themself and put their own spin on it and feel ownership of it. they can even enjoy it. like, the soundtrack is good lol. kris plays these pieces on piano to decompress and self-soothe because the terrifying trumpeting of the cosmos happens to also be straight bops. i find that very endearing and bittersweet
a hypothesis i could throw out there is:
gaster fully expects to "win" this session at the end of the prophecy and seize narrative control from his rival. he doesn't actually have that yet, and maybe he never really has, he's just created the illusion that he's already in charge. so, okay, he just wants us to reach the end and then he gets his turn to play touys while his rival has to go timeout for pushing him into the dirt and making him eat worms and then telling the whole class he's a Worm Pervert who loves to eat worms. the problem is that gaster doesn't actually want total narrative control. he never did. he'll take it if it's the best he can get, if the only alternative is getting slam dunked into lockers by a cool jock forever, because eventually that stops being hot and is just hurtful, but what he wants even more than that is to collaborate. that was always the point of this for him. he's bitter and pissed off at his rival but he doesn't actually hate them; once upon a time they were his friend and they had fun playing touys, Together. his ideal is to go back to that, but unless something really significant changes in the status quo, his rival will always choose conflict over cooperation. he knows that when he goes to claim the "pen" or whatever, and asks them to join him, they'll refuse.(1) so maybe the thing that's more important than reaching the end, for him, is making the last ditch effort to break through to them. maybe that's why he tracks shadow crystals -- the idea that he could gather up the pieces of a broken connection, drain the poison from it, and put it back together, probably sounds too good to be true. and it probably is
(1) there are echoes of asgore & toriel in this but i also think it's more complicated than that lol. i would guess for the rival it's like, as long as they stay in conflict ("playing a game"?) then the rival has a certain degree of control over him; he can't get too close to them but he also won't give up and leave them. if they accept the invitation then the game will end and they don't know what will happen next and that scares them. this is my, other hypotesis
to me "changing the prophecy" is a moot point because I Believe it's ultimately just a prediction. it's not instructive of fate, it's just a description of how that fate is expected to go, so even if you Could change the prophecy, it wouldn't matter because "fate" is going to be whatever it is regardless. fate dont caare. you could replace the final prophecy with a dreamworks movie dance party if you wanted to but all that does is set false expectations for no good reason
what you could maybe do, theoretically, is disprove the prediction, which has already happened in small ways (ex. susie was predicted to wear ribbons, but doesn't). we often fail to consider that, like, gaster can be 99.9999...% certain of a given outcome, and be planning for that outcome (because it would be foolish not to), while still scraping for the infinitesimal chance for something different -- like, yeah, he can make the expected outcome work for him if he has to, but maybe there's something he wants even More than that, so he's throwing everything he has at the situation in the hope of juking those odds even slightly. do you ever think about how gaster wrote a list of rigid, uncompromising paternal expectations in a notoriously fragile material and then presented it as a freaking religious institution to a bunch of misfit teenagers, an unpredictable extradimensional daimon, and a punk rock lunatic with a baseball bat. even goody two shoes ralsei was trying to resist it. if he actually wants everything to go exactly to plan then like, sorry, but is he fucking stupid. is this gaster is a fucking idiot theory. or is it possible that he knows these people are prone to rebellion and he's leveraging that, intentionally provoking them to say "fuck you, you're not my dad" and rail against those expectations whenever possible, because the more they resist, the greater the chance that something could meaningfully change. you can say "well he doesn't have to worry about resistance because he can just enforce it anyway" but when has he EVER enforced it, even with his own kid-lackey. he straight up encourages going "off-script." he lets susie override player choices. he allows the goddamned weird route! and anyway, if he knows it's guaranteed regardless, then why do the prophecy shit in the first place if it just causes even more trouble for him. we literally saw how demoralized the delta warriors were at the end of chapter 4. it's almost like he WANTS them to look at the ending ahead of time and think it sucks and want to do everything in their power to avoid it. or something
i think this is kind of like seam's thing with the shadow crystals -- seam is a huge fatalist, they have almost zero faith that anything could ever be different, but the crystals give them a flicker of hope anyway. if nothing else, it's something interesting and novel to entertain them while anticipating the inevitable. this isn't even Good Guy Gastering because maybe what gaster wants sucks even worse than the status quo. maybe he wants to seize full control over the story and rewrite it to be a slice of life cozy game about friendship and baking, which is so devoid of conflict and condescending and boring that it might as well be hell. i don't fucking know. i'm just saying i think it's hasty to assume that the prophecy being unchanging is the same thing as "fate" being unchanging. the prediction is static because that's how predictions work. it's like gaster read the book and then went into the story and spoiled every major plot beat ahead of time, TO the heroes, and sat back to see what they do about it. without that knowledge, the heroes would just accept what happens as the natural consequences of actions taken through free will. they would conform to the plot outline without even realizing it. sure, on the one hand, knowing expectations might bias the heroes into dutifully fulfilling them, but that would have happened anyway. on the other hand, the heroes can't choose to resist expectations if they don't know what those expectations are, or that they even exist in the first place
i think genderbend papyrus would be like a lululemon pilates woman. she would have a juicer and put whole eggs in the juicer. she would lead yoga classes like a drill sergeant
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couple of weeks ago i got a bit zooted weedways and was reading about the "scapegoat" in ancient judaic tradition (because i realized i only knew the colloquial meaning) and observed that kris and ralsei both: are attached to sacrificial motifs/themes (ex. "kris" at least partially deriving from "christ," ralsei being at least partially goat-like); serve as the kid-lackey for a big shot (kris for the roaring knight, ralsei for gaster); have red textile accessories around their necks (the red band being what marks the scapegoat, which will live and be cast into the wilderness, from the goat that will die as a sin offering). you could look at that rhyme scheme from the unused end3 panel and guess that it could have led to something about one dying while the other "is cast away" or what have you. the idea of casting lots to determine the fate of the offerings seems like it could be echoed in deltarune's motifs of chance games and dice... as well as motifs of cheating... so i had the thought that maybe both big shots have prepared an "offering" of a kid, and if both kids are already going in with red bands, marked as if the lot will fall to them (being scapegoated rather than simply killed), maybe this symbolizes that both sides are trying to cheat the outcome. so that's all interesting but i also have no idea what any of it could mean in practice, like Why a ritual like this would be valuable to them at all, if sin isn't real and these bozos themselves are "god," what is the point of them preparing ritual offerings to themselves. and anyway, keeping in mind that i was zonked out of my gourd at the time, the idea my brain decided to latch onto was gaster and the roaring knight basically playing pokemon with teenagers. like, they're trying to settle a pissing match by determining which one raised the more powerful 16 year old. and i don't know how much i actually believe in this idea but i can't stop thinking about it. two adults throwing kids at one another like beyblades
rorydoc...
consider: if the Prophecy scheme is a power grab (gaster in a sense trying to "steal" the narrative from TRK) and the festival is indeed an "Angelmas" commemorating the Angel (which might be how gaster redefined his role in his retelling of the story) then this motherfucker really is doing a jack skellington even down to stealing a holiday
what's funny is i do actually have a crack theory about Mike, which is that Real Mike was also multiple guys pretending to be one guy. alternatively Real Mike is just gaster in a beaglepuss
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following you feels like what it would be like to follow the green pippins.
this tracks because i too am small, gay, and pedantic
on the topic of the âfallen starâ potentially âweepingâ the prophecy into existence, i guess we might actually learn more of the mythology around the angel/genesis/etc (at least a simplified or sanitized version of it) through some festival pageant, or through recollections of it, since we know (or it's at least been hinted? i don't remember exactly) that noelle performed as the "angel" when she was a kid. like, oh yeah, we've heard all about the gay little prophecy but no one's ever actually told us what the angel itself is supposed to be or what it represents to these people. of course it makes sense to do exposition on that beyond a single out of context passage in a secret book. angel mythos could go kind of crazy now that i think about it. would be interesting to see a staged retelling in comparison to the esoteric fallen star type horseshit in the church because if they're having children perform the main roles then you have to imagine such a pageant is something akin to a passion play by way of veggie tales. i love the idea of introducing the in-universe religious mythos this way it's really funny to imagine theorists during the wait for the final chapters pulling their hair out in clumps trying to use the fallen star passage as a rosetta stone to parse actual Angel Lore from the ProphecyKidz retelling of it as clumsily performed by second graders
(various other festival type musings ->)