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I really feel like dy is such cool adult. Very articulate, ambitious, master planner, considerate of others, has steady income, good family, good network, and more and more. Like how is a person so lucky? So lucky to know his passion early on? So lucky to have determination to chase his dream? So lucky ti have good support system in family and friends? 127 are so lucky they find good friends in their colleagues. I know they work hard but don’t you need hard work and luck to be that successful with good people around you? How are some people not have the luck yet? I know we can’t judge a person’s life in a glance but huh… so hard to not be jealous of successful people. I respect, i aspire to be like him especially with his way of working, but so jealous as well 😔😔
I know...
He also has guts. Guts to go against his parents (who didn't support his hobby for singing at the start) and earn money for his vocal lessons himself, guts to drop out of school (in SK it's a big deal), guts to come close to the judges who evaluated trainees weekly, guts to aim high even if he is constantly worried and uncertain about the outcome. His desire to sing pushes him forward.
Psychologists say that if we have false dreams (I want to be rich, I want to be a celebrity - something we picked up from the society), then we won't act because the brain will be content just laying on the sofa and watching YT. A real dream, passion drives people to extremes. Like Tae wanted to debut so much he made other trainees practice till 5 am, while Do survived on raisings to quickly lose weigt after joining SM. And how Ten or Yuta moved to another country and learnt a new language.
Do said several times that his mother taught him (by example) that nothing comes without effort and that it's important to work dilligently.
I think one of the hardest things is to believe in oneself. Do always did, so he dreamt big. You are right about the set of character traits that allowed him to become who he is. Few are born with them. There is a price though. There are people who are happy with everyday mandane life, small things, their families. People like Do would go nuts, they need to channel their energy in achieving things, going places.
I should say that Do wasn't super lucky. That would mean being born with an exeptional voice and song-writing skills to skip the idol phase and go straight to stardom as a soloist. He wasn't chosen into 127 at first, 127 didn't achieve the success as quickly as Exo, he couldn't sing live or perform on festivals with a band for a long time. He worked with what he had, took the longer path. The opportunities that present themselves to him now wouldn't be possible several years ago.
Speaking of his social skills. I've heard many times that building connections is the most important thing for success. Leave a good impression on people, they can call you back in a few years with an offer... heh.
I'm currently in the process of going through your entire archive so I'm not sure if anyone has asked this before but I'd love to hear you discuss Jaehyun's personality. From what I gather from small parts from your posts and from what I've noticed about him personally, he's such a multifaceted person. I'm really interested in knowing more about how you perceive his personality and his relationships with those around him.
Ah, a reader after my heart. I did more analyzes at the beginning, when I received much less questions, so most of the material is in the posts from the winter-spring months.
Yes, I write on Jae’s character and brain type here and there. Like this one and this.
Jaehyun is easy to understand if you imagine him with multiple layers. At times you see the inner layers, at times the outer ones. They differ, so is the impression one gets from him.
1) At the core there is the Inner child. The world is full of wonder for him. This child is kind and inquisitive. He wants to explore and to play.
We see the glimpses, when Jae: blows out dandelions, interacts with dogs and children, films ants in the desert, runs freely like a puppy, imitates a veloceraptor, pretends to be bitten by a plush snake, decorates a hat with flowers, observes his friends with adoration. His core desire to explore makes him like to travel, look for new artists and music, visit art museums, watch documentaries. He is polite and accepting of people, not judgmental.
2) The next layer is shyness and insecurities. Although the Child is adventurous and is not afraid of the elements, jungles, trials, he lacks innate socialisation skills. He doesn’t know how to approach people and needs to be approached first. Growing up he learns the ways, but it is still difficult for him and not intuitive. He doesn’t “feel” people well, having low empathy. Not being able to perceive the mood of another person easily, see social clues, share the feeling, he is not good at receiving feedback. Am I welcomed? Do they like me? Did I do everything the right way? Would I bother them? That’s why he needs other people telling him “you did good”, that’s why he is overachiever of sorts. Achievements give him security, make him believe in himself more.
After many years of being an idol Jae still stutters at times, when he talks on interviews and it takes him several attempts to interrupt somebody, to switch attention to himself. He is not that bold, agressive guy with “listen to me when I talk” posture. He is very agreeable, it takes Jungwoo’s levels of pestering to make Jae start to be slightly agressive first (as preemptive measure).
Jae loses his shyness during competitive games and sports, because it’s not socialisation based on feelings and mutual understanding, it’s active exploration of the physical world.
3) Stubborness and determination. The sense of right. Truthfulness. Jae likes to try new things and achieve goals. It stems from his need to explore, but is rather a unique characteristic of his own. Not many people can push themselves that hard. He wants to excel in everything. For his brain type the world has inner beauty, everything needs to be balanced and as perfect as possible (sometimes the perfection is chaos though). He applies this view to himself too. He wants a nice body not only to feel accepted (they will like me if I’m handsome), but to be a perfect idol. In a sense, he can’t sell people his face if its not perfect, that would be fraud. He said he wants to be an example to others. He had problems having fun and enjoying himself during the first concerts of the tour, because he was so concentrated on doing everything right.
The inner sense of truth and right prevents him from pretending. The fanservice with Tae was hard for him, because it went against his true feelings, he had to lie. I have a boyfriend, I can’t touch intimately another man! On the other hand, he has no problem playing a seductor from the office. He will get red ears afterwards, but everything for the art.
4) Inner adult. Independence and self-reliance. Another side of having low empathy is not being dependant on authority and opinion of society. Approval of another person is only one way of being sure you do something well. If the field is not human relationships, that is. The reality too gives you feed back. Jae has opinions he stands by. If he decides he doesn’t care about a certain person, he won’t be hurt by their thoughts about him. He chooses his own authorities, not the ones society gives him. He follows Doyoung not because he is a spineless follower, but because it’s his choice. That’s why he is comfortable with his orientation despite Korean realities.
Jae is more comfortable with dropping of honorifics for the same reason.
With age Jae relies on himself more and more, trying less and less to win over people around him. If in the past he was “please love me” puppy, now he is content with the chosen few and doesn’t open up (become the vulnarable Inner child) easily. Independence is an escape from struggles of “dealing with human feelings”. Sometimes people go too far, but Jae, growing up and living with 8 other people, learnt to balance it. Most probably he would have become much more closed off if he grew up along. EnNaNa also helped him.
5) The wall of indiffirence. Jae is a rational, logical person. He thinks before he talks. He is secure with his rational side and it is comfortable to be in a balanced, inside oriented, unaffected by outward commotion and turmoils state. Introverts build their own world, live in a kind of a bubble. Music, scented candles, tight circle of friends, work outs. When he is affected by feelings, however, he loses control over himself. He becomes jealous in public or jumps off his chair in exitement. Some people live in this manner all the time, they are like sea-gulls on the waves of stormy sea, perfectly fine with being tossed around, they can still swim in the chosen direction. But Jae is not, so he tries to “keep a poker face”, to not give in to emotions.
A working dog is such a fitting comparison for Jae, because dogs were selected to stay puppies in wolf’s skin. A German shepherd (working line, police dog) is both the big eared overenthusiastic, owner approval seeking big puppy and a working mashine capable of killing. You can put chicks on them and they won’t know what to do with the fluffy balls, stay still not to damage them, but do not even look the wrong way at their human, you can end up without a hand.
Jae demonstrates similar contrast. Silly and playful one time, serious and hardworking another time. Open and welcoming, closed off and icy. Insecure and full of determination. Etc.
Different people have keys to different security levels. Few are let very close to the core. Doyoung is one of them, so Jae has close to none guarding mechanisms around him. Anything Doyoung does amuzes the Inner child and he comes out to laugh and play. Anything Doyoung related stirrs feelings and unchecked reactions. And because few people can achieve what Doyoung did (get full trust and all the keys), Jae doesn’t want to let go.
Today Doyoung reminded me once again why I keep stanning him. Under all that nessessary fanservice (fancalls, fanmeets with dressing up, aegyo, cuteness) and paper chase (brands, ads) is a true passionate singer with a selfmade man mindset.
Doyoung wasn't kidding when he said he wanted to be a stage director in the future a few years back. The way he changed some stages, continued with DY Track, used his drama/musical roles to bring in variety (to the chant guide) and new surprises.
Doyoung was in his prime vocally. The best I've heard him so far. And he got those "yes, I nailed it" tiny satisfied smirks here and there.
Doyoung arriving. The green clover leaf standie to take pics with. Do with the mascot.
Soundcheck: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 Bye for now
The goods that VIP fans got: 1, 2
Messages: 1, 2, 3
Heh, DY Track was all over my feed. An uninterrupted stream of fancams. Doyoung knows how to make people talk about him on media. 1 (full), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (on the screen), 9 (undressing)
1 - I really like the coat. It brings the needed drama. Thanks to the stylist for offering this option to Do.
2 - Doyoung can rap with a deep voice, which is not common (and, with further improvement, can be even used for 127, as no other rappers among neos can match the tone). He reminded me of T.O.P
3 - Taeyong will be on Do's neck the moment Do returns from the military, haha. Tae will get his duet eventually, I'm convinced.
4 - Does anyone know if Tae's akgaes did any ripples in kfandom about TYTrack/DYTrack? Or the commotion was only in i-fandom? I'd like to know if Do was aware or not. As he added fuel to the fire with Mad City, heh.
5 - It is still obvious Doyoung doesn't feel himself very comfortable rapping and putting on an image. Maybe he needs more acting experience to get used to being "a liar". Or just perform this number more often. His body gave off him being self-concious during it. You know, the way shy people are awkward when dressed sexily, the "it's not really me" feeling.
6 - I was impressed with the fans quickly adapting chanting. Fact Check is really popular. And I like that Doyoung reminds his fans about his love for NCT. He is not just using the songs to fill in the setlist. He makes 127's songs into his own versions. "It is part of me". Like, imagine you are a solo fan and hate the group, and Do and the audience make it into a 5 minute 127 concert, heh.
The chant-teaching VCR. Fersen coming last was very intentional. Fans were made to anticipate. A longer version.
Snow flower. He really performs this song as a musical number.
First love. Again, the set up of the stage is well thought through.
17. Rest. Life is beautiful. Lost in California.
Doyoung's motto is "a good joke worth repeating 10 times", lol. His number with a long note and his piano-boy. The banana was also turned into a staple. Bunny.
So Do re-arranged "Litlle light" for the encore a bit. Wow, this is really the way to make a transition between segments in a concert. Keep the audience entranced with the light show, set up the mood, and make a dramatic entrance.
Doyoung's "you are not singing well" is not only for entertainment and creation of "Doyoung concert culture", he wants the fans to be involved, overcome their shyness/reluctance to sing (and laughing helps to relax, stop caring). He probably approaches it simply as a class president, used to gathering people and motivating them to participate in events, however, it really plays in his favour. The fans will leave the venue in a great mood. As I said before, singing together lifts up spirits, gives the feeling of being united with others, brings the feeling of joy. Koreans are very much into religious cults you know... heh. He is making one for himself. The followers of Doyoung.
And of course Doyoung knows how to sell merch.
A chatterbox who gets more confident with bickering with the fans. His disarming cute tone helps him. Promising lyrics and not showing them on screen ("but you are Doyoung's fan, aren't you?").
Frosty (?) - the new single. Side view.
Love me for a long time and love yourself ment.
The fans singing to LL. Baby butt bread pose with the audience. Doyoung leaving the venue.
There are many more fancams, but I will settle for now.
So, back to the "ready to be soloist". Doyoung is a complete product to sell and expand on. He already has a brand, a fan-catering experience (mascots, unique merch, letters, singing along), his show is variable (ballads, rap, jazz-medleys, rock - something for laughs, something for tearing up), he is very good at managing venues of all sizes (MC + duets on SMTowns experience), VCRs+stage effects are on point, a live band, live vocals without a break. He is ready to appeal to non-core fans, someone who has just discovered him (many did with LL) or came to the concert out of curiousity/because they had time (like those granpas in Japan).
Heh, Do even has a concert director in his pocket (Donghwan).
Most importantly, Doyoung is himself an idea-bank. He won't depend on an outside producer, he will gather the experts he needs to help him develop his own vision. Which means he will develop and offer listeners new books and new experience (like with DYTrack upgrade).
Yes, Doyoung still has areas to improve on (like I said before about body language), but these things are minor, most fans won't notice. And Do will overcome these imperfections naturally with experience. Notably, he improved his singing even in the span of this half a year (since the first concert).
When "Frosty" was announced, Do trended right away and many minor media channels copy-pasted the news. Doyoung is already on the list of clickbait artists in SK, heh.
0:06 and 0:26 - Doyoung touches Jaehyun's hand. I told you many times that it is Doyoung's strong habit (not only with Jae). Back in 2017 Doyoung stopping touching Jaehyun was one of the alarming signs of a profound change. And during "the ban" you could observe how Doyoung stopped his hand midair or retreived it quickly from Jae's shoulder/arm, remembering to correct his habit.
0:27-0:30 - Jaehyun-ie at his usual. Eating up everything Doyoung is saying. Notice how he turned his body slightly to have a better look of Do. Jungwoo is forgotten. Heh, Jaehyun even leaned on the wall for a second there, immersed.
0:31 - Jaehyun a main singer, that was nice
1:10 - heh. Jaehyun is in the role of the instructor, he says they are going to start the stretching. Woo: "Yes (understand)". Doyoung: "Five, four...". Doyoung started the count when it's not his role to be the leader. Habits.
1:31 - I keep telling you "attack" is Doyoung's solution for everything, lol. He keeps sabotaging his own carefully crafted image.
2:28 - Doyoung started to laugh before he heard the end of the sentence. Was he just quick to realise what Jae was going to say, or does Jae say this sentence in a daily life, it's a running theme?
2:38 - "Out of nowhere" Doyoung is back.
3:14 (and 3:20) - Doyoung showing the result to Jaehyun. And the verbal exchange. Look at Jaehyun so motivated and talkative, heh. Like in good old times. Also, the speed Jae said he "nomu chouhwa" amidst his speech about NCTzens. Didn't make Do wait even for a second.
Sidenote: Have you seen fans making compilations of Doyoung sitting leg on leg and Jaehyun sitting with legs spread out? Fans tried to make a point (babygirl vs frat boy, or whatever are the current fanon images) by cherry picking pictures. In reality both sit both ways. Not only idols and their companies construct an image for an idol, fans do it too. A lot of fans don't watch the content (or little of it, sporadically) and rely on gifs and schreenshots of their chosen moots. As such, they start to perceive an idol through the eyes of these active in the fandom fans who create mainstream narratives/character interpretations.
3:44 - Jaehyun pressing "upload" instead of Do reminded me how he took Do's phone to choose music in the past.
3:48 - Jaehyun flirting in the broad daylight. What a time to be alive!
3:58 - Jaehyun singing "Will you marry me" and Jungwoo trying to save the situation with pushing JaeWoo.
Hang in there, Jungwoo. Consult Taeil for tips if nessesary.
Patience, Jungwoo.
4:36-4:38 - Although Do shifted closer to Woo, he doesn't forget to ask Jae if he agrees (i.e. he is not in a complete bubble with Woo, Jae is included and remembered).
4:48-4:50 - Jaehyun also doesn't forget to remind about himself.
5:00 - Not Doyoung shifting his eyes on the staff once Jaehyun starts to talk about marriage again.
The number of times Doyoung looked at the camera while Jaehyun was propelling the marriage topic, lmao.
5:20 - Ah, why did the cut the exchange, I want Do's facial expression. It is very interesting Jaehyun thanked Do for keeping up with the topic. His tone of voice. He wrapped it up for the cameras (thank you for the reaction), but it wasn't the initial goal.
5:35 - The scene was cut, but looks like Jae waited for Woo to hand him the tablet (instead of just taking it).
5:52 - Jaehyun and his Tokki agenda. Yes, there were exlamation marks, but why the first two animals didn't get the excited voice?
8:01 - Do taking Jae by the elbow (a habit), Jae and his Tokki agenda again (hop, hop).
ASMR is an awful invention and should be banned from entertainment.
9:11 - Jae's usual level of excitement when he answers someone who is not Doyoung
9:34-10:08 - JaeWoo are going to successfully join forces only when it's about teasing Doyoung, aren't they.
10:27-10:28 - Doyoung is just reading a sentence, what's there to smile pleased about and say "oooh".
10:47 - Oh, it's been awhile since Do teased/irritated Jae in this manner.
12:48 - JaeWoo will be like this.
13:32-13:38 - Looks like Jungwoo pinched Jaehyun on the back, he extended his arm too far.
Time to tease hyung.
13:54 - Woo takes it on himself to interact with Jae, because Jae forgets.
15:27 - That smile is super sus.
16:38 - Doyoung elbowed Jungwoo to continue with the joke (I'm a doggy".
18:00 - Jaehyun-ie, that's mean.
Why did the staff chose that strange headband for Doyoung... it doesn't make him look like a bunny
20:19 - "Doyoung-ah" again
20:32 - Jungwoo checking on Jaehyun
21:15 - Do reminds Woo about "I'm a doggy" again
21:59 - The Tokki agenda again, lol. Why are you such a furry, Jaehyun-ah.
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I said before that Doyoung also has a special smile saved for Jaehyun-ie (not unique per ser, but very reflexive around Jaehyun regardless of what the latter is doing) that differs from his usual "oh, it's/you are so funny/cute right now".
This is a wide smile that was directed at Jungwoo. Amused Do in a happy mood. The corners of the lips are stretched to the sides, the eyes look more like slits.
And the smiles during noticing Jae filming him or talking to him. The lip corners turn up, the eyes are crescent-shaped, and there are often crinkles near the corners of the eyes. This slight change of expression adds bashfulness to the way Do looks. He is more mirthful than amused. More coy, less sassy.
And this cut shows well that this emotion comes on its own (it's reflexive, Jaehyun doesn't need to do much, just to be himself and insinuate the probability of teasing/banter or secretly film Do), when Do catches himself doing it before cameras, he drops it to appear non-affected.
Between DoWoo and DoJae you can tell that Do has resistance towards Woo's antics and teasing (he normally stands his ground), but with Jae he gives up being too whipped.
It's easier to see in motion how the corners of the mouth keep twitching because the emotion bubbles up.
Adorable Jaehyun-ie must be adored.
Jae teased Do here and got this disarmed instant agreement. This moment is illustrative in particular because JaeDo pretended to be distant (remember the bts pictures they took, lol). However, Do isn't capable of keeping himself in check for long.
The famous "do you like kissing" misunderstanding. Jaehyun's body language spills everything and in detail.
Will notice only in passing, but Jae has a habit of instantly covering his chest with his arms in protection against an incoming "attack", which makes me wonder how handsy Do actually gets in real life for this habit to exist. (Remember the DJJ moment during album cover photoshoot when Do asked what JaeWoo were saying about him while it was his turn to shoot)
Oh, the animosity.
Finally. This cut is about Jaehyun supplying Doyoung with correct answers, but I like the way they sit and move as it is illustrative of Dongyoung and Yuno who shed their idol images partially. Do is still the gawky kid with bad control over his body (his focus is too much preoccupied with the environment, with what happens around and who does/says what, to keep a good grip over what his own limbs and throat are doing) and Jaehyun is still the soft clumsy kid.
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