Potentially hot take but I donโt think that the writing in the later seasons is that bad. With the way some of the fandom reacts I thought it was going to be absolute dogshit, but itโs really not that bad and dare I say great!
Donโt get me wrong, s6 was boring and s7 COULD have been amazing but they dropped the ball, s8 was questionable (both the Abbadon plotline and the Metatron turning bad were solid ideas but smushing them into one season was the problem) but season 9 was so interesting with the dynamics of angels and the factions, and then s10 felt like a damn fantasy series, and it was incredible and while I'm only halfway through s11, it's shaping up to be really amazing
Don't get me wrong, I still think that s1-s5 were the best. Cohesive writing, insane character development, not so many plot holes, but it is much easier to execute when the first three seasons were monster of the week episodes. But by the way some of the fandom reacted, I thought it would be terrible and unwatchable, but it's really not.
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Today, Jack eats a bowl of ramen in celebration of May and hopes the weather will be more consistent in this new month. Dean asks how ramen correlates to May, but Jack doesn't feeling like explaining all of that.
so i was doing some thinking about supernatural and the angels, and i kind of realized that we have origin lore for a lot of other supernatural creatures, and comparitively little on the angels. so i decided to change that. behold; my frankenstein combo of speculative biology, rudimentary astrophysics and chemistry, and my very spotty understanding of supernatural angels.
i've divided this into three sections (found below the cut). section one is my method for relating angels to their origins (which, for this, i've chosen to be supernovae). section two will be a few ideas on the science of angel grace/angelic powers. section three is my catch-all section, involving angel speculative chemistry/biology, a reason why iron and other metals affect supernatural creatures, and some more miscellaneous thoughts on angels and supernovae.
so without further ado, angel theory
section one: angels and supernovae
what i ended up doing was taking a list of the accepted classifications of supernovae*, and a seperate list of accepted classes of angels in the show, and i compared them. i sorted my angels into 6 tiers, and i compared their canon relative strengths to the light curves of supernovae (showing how bright they get, essentially). for this scenario, i imagine "wavelengths of celestial intent" to operate on a similar mechanism to waves of light, so the brightness of supernovae directly relates to the power and amount of angels released from the star
*an important thing worth mentioning for this section is that there is a type of supernovae known as type Ia. if archangels were not canonically older than the universe, this would be their attributed supernovae. however, given their age, i had to come up with an alternate theory to explain these supernovae, as they do not produce any angels. archangels are not discussed in this, because i don't have the mental capacity to go back to what possibly existed before the universe.
type Ib - this is my category for the grigori. these are the ones that were in heaven and got banished. these guys were the first ones to show up on earth so that's why they get this one. the light graph for this is not as bright as Ic, but it does last longer (hence the being on earth longer part).
type Ic - these are my seraphs. these are slightly more powerful than grigori so they get one that is slightly brighter. both these types are very very similar too (the only supernova difference is that one has helium being released, the other does not. this is relevant later in my chemistry section).
type IIn - these are my "high tier angels". that's not helpful as a category so i gave them my solid middle ground option. these are neat because there's some infrared activity going on, which makes me think it's some freaky angel thing i am actively choosing to ignore for the moment because i dont understand infrared enough (i may come back to this later).
type IIb - this type involves two types of angels. my reasoning for this (hear me out); their light curves have two peaks. i gave the smaller peak to the healing angels (rit zien, according to the wiki), and the second (and bigger) peak to the intel angels. the first peak is pretty normal, but the second peak is like a type Ib peak [this has to do with naomi and the intel angels having a similar deal as grigori; both morally shunned by various people].
type II-L - "low rank" angels. technically its max brightness is higher than IIb, but im chalking that up to the sheer amount of low rank angels that were formed at one time making that happen, despite being low power level.
type II-P - cherubs. nothing special here; weakest brightness = weakest angel class
section two: angel grace and angelic abilites
i'm assuming anyone reading this has some basic knowledge of chemistry. essentially you have protons, neutrons, and electrons. turns out, there are also these things called neutrinos that appear from things like supernovae or nuclear reactions. science is kinda sketch on them still because they're hard to replicate and actually measure on earth, but they are a thing. a huge amount of these get realeased from supernovae and my thinking is that the angels have properties similar to these neutrinos. exhibits to follow;
exhibit one: angel radio. angels can hear it, humans cannot. which must mean it gets communicated through some other means than just sound waves. solution ? neutrinos. we as humans have successfully used these particles to communicate through something like 800 feet of rock. obviously this could only be picked up by specific instruments, but the logic is there.
exhibit two: angel teleportation/speed. when a supernova occurs and the core collapses inward, it functions a bit like a black hole; it kinda sucks everything into it except for neutrinos and light (because their speeds are so very very similar). therefore, i can make the conclusion that neutrinos have a relationship to angels moving at near the speed of light to teleport and occasionally move(there are some scientific problems here in which neutrinos have been recorded at faster than the speed of light, which shouldn't really be possible. for supernatural, it's just another angel quirk in this universe, perhaps)
exhibit three: angel grace. i've taken a bit of a liberty here and thought of these like a recurring nova (small classical nova that reoccurs periodically). something in the angels from their supernova origins allows them to be able to do this (im not hung up on the details. its fantasy after all. again, i might revisit this later).
section three: catch-all on angel chemistry, speculative biology, etc.
point one; when a supernova occurs, the result is almost always one of two things. either it turns into a neutron star (second densest thing in the universe), or a black hole (y'all know these). there's a trend that i found with these angels. the weaker angels trend toward forming neutron stars, and the stronger angels trend toward forming black holes. this makes sense, because bigger stars typically form black holes over smaller stars, and you would theoretically need a bigger star to hold more powerful angels. there's exceptions to this (like to everything...). number one, cherubs have a tendancy for their stars to result in black holes on occasion. i'm assuming this has something to do with forming a large number of cherubs at once, so you need a bigger star to house them all. number two, you have seraphs and grigori occasionally forming neutron stars over black holes. this i'm attributing to forming a noticably less number of them at once than usual. therefore, smaller star needs less space. my "high level" angels can form either result at more or less random; again, this would be based on power level and number formed from one star.
point two; there is, in the actual astrophysics of supernovae, an energy transfer issue. when the star collapses into itself, there's a massive amount of energy required to make that happen and as of right now, we have...no concrete idea where it comes from. we do, however, think it's related to neutrinos (aha, angel grace ??? anybody ???). my theory is that the angels are the source of this energy. they pull it back into the star to slingshot themselves out of the star's orbit, and then once the star explodes, they ride that shockwave like surfing until they reach heaven.
point three; angel chemistry (this part was difficult, so be kind to me if there's mistakes). angels are weird, and i have reason to believe they may be partly a silicon based species (or, they are not, and the silicon simply fused into the star core like it does in real life. for my purposes, let's say that angels have a silicon component to their biology). i've found that the only type of supernova that doesn't result in angel formation is the type that has a silicon spectra (we can detect it, which means it doesn't get absorbed or fused). by that logic, i'm assuming the angels have to be somewhat silicon based. additionally, i have a theory that there's a sweet spot to layers used by the star when forming angels for their powers. having a helium spectra present (we can see helium given off by the star) results in a grigori. this means that having that one less layer has some sort of effect on their power levels. meaning that when we see hydrogen spectra given off from all the type II supernovae, that results in weaker angels because they're missing an additional layer (there are some issues with this that i don't know enough about atomic spectra to fully work through. i think it may have to do with some forbidden spectra that i don't fully understand. i may revisit later).
point four; elemental chemistry and the formation of heavy metals. so we know in the show that the boys use various metals to defeat/harm supernatural creatures (bronze, silver, etc.). the most important of these (for this at least) is iron, and here's my theory why. a while ago i made a post about iron being a "pure" element and that's why it works. i would also like to make this addition; type Ia supernovae produce iron-56 as a result of nuclear decay (iron-56 is the most naturally occuring isotope of iron on earth). it came to earth from when the planet formed, as the iron was floating around in a gas cloud that condensed into our planet. if you remember from earlier, type Ia is the only type of supernova that doesn't produce angels. essentially, it has so much happening that instead of forming a neutron star or black hole, it quite literally explodes itself apart until there's nothing left. my thought is that this amount of energy is too much for the angels and tears them apart. their angelic grace gets left to dissipate into the rest of the star, and when iron-56 forms in the core and enters the universe, it works so well against spirits because it has trace amounts of angel grace in it (same goes for the other metals that they use). this also explains the Si showing up from these stars, because instead of being in the angels, it's just in the universe.
theres a few other points about types of stars relating to angel strength before they even go supernova, but it's not super relevent to be truly honest. it doesn't tell you anything that i haven't already explained (although i am willing to explain it further). some of the other iron on earth comes from meteorites. they've related fallen angels to meteors in canon, so i am going to apply the same logic and say that when their grace gets altered in the fall, it imbues this iron with grace, and you get the same result.
if you made it to the end, congrats, you are now my new favourite people. questions are accepted and please PLEASE tell me if i screwed something up with my science. i am not an astrophysicist or a chemist; i'm just a molecular biology major with way too much time on my hands and unmedicated adhd
also, tagging those who were interested in this : @dontlistentodaisy, @bejeweledinterludes2, @aniresrene, @sorryitsmyfirstdayonearth, @clemeowntine, @reginaphalangelobster
Today, Dean gets up relatively early to go buy some pie from his favorite stand at a nearby farmer's market. Cas comes along to bring home some new seeds for their garden.
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for this one, i wanted to incorperate sam's faith with my own: "there is reason for hope" is sam's quote from 5x3 (my favorite quote of his! it's all over my blog lol), and "hope does not put us to shame" is taken from romans 5:5. the stained glass design represents sam's journey out from blood, darkness, and hellfire into hope and light ๐ค