the joker isnāt harley quinnās love interest heās her origin story
A LITTLE LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Originally posted by smooshywrites
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yaaaas!
I WANT TO KNOW THE STORY BEHIND THIS. I HONESTLY THOUGHT THEY WERE LOVERS.
Okay, okay, so short version:
Joker seduced Harley while he was in Arkham and she was his psychologist. He did so by manipulating sessions to make him seem pitiable.
Harley broke Joker out. Joker was originally going to kill her then, but fans had latched onto Harley Quinnās new look and she was a fan favorite (mind you as I recall, she was originally introduced in BTAS, and then transferred to the comics later). So she ended up surviving his first murder attempt.
He decided that although annoying she could still be useful (since sheās actually brilliant, and at this point somewhat codependent). This leads to a string of horrific abuses and murder attempts. Including (in the TV show alone) throwing her through a window that is at *least* three stories up, choking her, beating her with a hammer, threatening her with one of his gag guns (which, depending on the gun, may or may not kill her in various ways), and attempting to get hyenas to eat her.
In the comics, it includes starving her, chaining her to a wall in a sewer on top of corpses of āfailed Harleys,ā poisoning her, leaving her in burning buildings, pushing her into the line of police fire, gaslighting her basically every time he fails to kill her, and the list goes on. When she becomes pregnant with her and Jokerās kid, she leaves for nine months, to her sisterās place, and gives birth there. She doesnāt tell Joker about the kid (and goes out of her way to prevent Joker from finding out). She tells Canary that itās because Mr. J would be too busy for a kid, but if you pay attention to Harleyās behavior throughout the comic, the clear subtext is āMy kid would end up dead or worse if Joker knew about her.ā
Additionally, post break up, she notes he was abusive, says it wasnāt love, it was manipulation, and frequently describes it as the worst part of her life.
Iām no expert but I remember one more thing⦠she said he never noticed she was gone for those 9 months.
THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THIS UP.
This is why couples are creepy as fuck for dressing up as Harley and the joker and why people are especially fucked up for thinking the relationship they had in suicide squad was āgoalsā



















