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Courtney Love was so right when she said Axl has the best nose in rock ānā roll
āWhen Axl and I communicate on stage, itās actually one of those things thatās become second nature in a way. Itās taken a lot of years to get to that point where it only takes a nod, because in the frantic pace of the show and the way things are going, you canāt stop for very long and have a conversation⦠But itās really unique to us, you know, because weāve been together for so long.ā

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what do you think of slash saying that when he met axl for the first time "he fell in love platonically" was it really just platonic? (I know there are ppl on the fandom who dont like when we ship band members, this is just for fun purposes, or not...)
I'm racking my brain, where did he say this? šÆ
Okay Iām officially spooked, why are those seemingly knowledgeable people/fans trying to push this idea of Izzy and Axl wasnāt close? When everyone and everything pointed to the total opposite?
I mean, Izzy even came back for more than half of Axlās 2006 tour? Then 2012. Whatās the agenda? Whatās the conspiracy?
From what Iāve gathered, a lot of the naysayers either have a different ship Izzaxl is getting in the way of, or they're Izzy fans/those in general who donāt like Axl so they cope by selling their friendship short, or people who assume that just because Izzy named Axl as one of the factoring decisions as to why he left, he doesn't care for him.
Except, they ignore how upset Axl got over Izzy leaving him, even shut Izzy out because of it, until Izzy reached out to him (Axl, buddy, you have a patternāat least this didn't take two decades š):
Stradlin has only talked to Rose once since he quit GN'R, right before the band went back out on tour in December 1991 with Gilby Clarke. "I was kind of bummin'," [Izzy] recalls. "It was a pretty harsh reality, sitting back in Indy. I called him up, said, 'Hey, you still pissed off?' 'No, I'm not pissed off.' Things were okay. But then time went by, and he got pissed off again.
LMAO. Btw, Izzy called Axl again after giving him some time to cool off.
And when Izzy bumped into Slash in New York, leading to a ceasefire, he said, āI would have rather met with Axl. But I guess Slash was 'designated diplomat.'ā
Note that Izzy was the one who kept reaching out to Axl. Izzy cares, a lot.
Tracii Guns: I met Axl through Izzy, who I first met in 1982 or 1983. [ā¦] He kept telling me about Axl. He showed me pictures: āHeās my best friend, Iām going to get him out here and do this band.ā
This makes me wonder if izzy and axl were just friends or very good friends, or maybe more, I know it was the 80s, but who carried photos of their best friend around?
What da ya think?
Izzy probably would have a pic of the two of them, like this, the one they made a poster out of, which he showed to people. But if they were solos š³, then he must love Axl very much, lol.
Makes sense ācause theyād known each other for so long, and practically grew up together; I donāt think they were as close to anyone else, especially Axl, given his ambivalent relationship with his family (so when he said Izzyās one of the people he cares about most in the entire world, he really meant it š«¶). Many folks who met Izzy first have mentioned him talking about Axl, which is so cute. He has been so supportive about Axlās singing, like that was Axlās hype-man for real.Ā
Iāve come across this perception of some fans who believe that Izzy abandoned Axl back in Indiana or that he wasnāt too happy about Axl following him to LA, which isnāt true. (I canāt recall but it mightāve been because of something Izzy implied after he left GNāR and was mad about the stuff being laid out in the press by Axl and Slashāalthough, whatever was reported is to be taken with a grain of salt because it was often sensationalized or straight-up false).Ā
Anyway, Izzy and Axl were joined at the hip, whether it was band-related or outside of it, and would make sure to talk on the phone every day if they were apart. If Izzy was somewhere, you could bet Axl would show up too, and vice-versa.
Iām giggling, twirling hair, and kicking my feet thinking about Izzy going up to people and showing them pics of Axl like thatās my best friend š„¹
Yeah interesting!
My thoughts:
1. absence makes the heart grow fonder
2. Izzy talking up Axl as a āgreat singerā and āweāre gonna form a bandā is also him talking up his future music career with his music bros
3. Dezi Craft (izzyās girlfriend in 84-85) said Izzy was reluctant to be in a band again with Axl and was even talking abt quitting LA altogether
4. Dezi remembers a lot of fights between them. Izzy hung out a lot with Slash in the early days - writing songs and doing heroin
5. Axl hated the heroin addiction he saw his friends fall into - probably drove a wedge between him and izzy on and off as he kicked and then relapsed for years
a complicated and intense friendship thatās for sure
I mean, sure, we can agree to disagree, but I believe this is downplaying their friendship a lot. Note Izzy refers to Axl as his best friend, so heās not just talking about a singer thatās gonna take his music aspirations to the next level. "Izzy was reluctant to be in a band again with Axl and was even talking abt quitting LA altogether." Yet Izzy still came around every time. They only separated when Hollywood Rose was stagnant, and filled whatever spots were available in other bands, according to Steve Darrow. Axl joined LA Guns first because Tracii Guns asked him, and they opened for London, whom Izzy played for. Axl ripped up London's poster because of the beef they had w LA Guns as the story goes, and he and Tracii asked if Izzy wanted to join. He did and quit London, and they formed Guns N' Roses. The rest is history. At the end of the day, it was Izzy's choice.
Steve Darrow, Pamela Manning, Tracii, and even Izzyās ex-fiancee, to name a few, have confirmed it one way or another that Izzy and Axl were always together. Theyāve been sticking together for a long time, so no, absence did not make the heart grow fonder, they genuinely enjoyed each other's company. To reiterate, if you came across one of them, the other was sure to follow. Sure they had their fights (they themselves have been open about it, like the one that led to Don't Cry), but they always found their way back to one another. More fans than there should be act like Izzy was just putting up with Axl or something, no.
As Izzy said in 1989, āItās been 14-15 years already. I might be the person who knows him the best. Oh, certainly, [Axlās] a man that invites misunderstandings. But he's a normal guy. At least for me. (laughs). Me and him, we're not exact opposites but, how do I put it, we fit together like puzzle pieces. Sometimes he disappoints me, sometimes I disappoint him. If he's in trouble, I help, and sometimes I need help from him. I trust him. That's what this kind of relationship entails.ā
As for the drug use, there was a point when Axl himself dabbled in Heroin, LSD, etc, not enough to ever fully get into it, but still. It started to bother him way later down the line, and it was more directed toward the others, specifically Slash and Steven. When Axl made his Mr. Goddamn Brownstone rant, Izzy was already on his journey to get clean, and was described a few days earlier as āclean and soberā by Marc Canter.
Their friendship got strained after 1990, while they were recording UYI, when Izzy realized that his opinion no longer influenced/moved Axl, which is sad, because for the longest time, they were a team, and if anyone could get through to Axl, it was Izzy.
I personally don't find anything too complicated about their friendship. Their life was chaotic and it ended up dictating their friendship, but it didn't change the fact that they cared about each other (if they didn't, then their relationship would be pretty simple, actually).
Again, we can agree to disagree.
Iām sorry to see you got in discords with other fans 𫪠why are we still fighting when everyone love GNāR and love Izzy?? please donāt lose heart and donāt leave this (already small and dwindling) fandom.
On more pleasant distractions, whatās your thoughts on IRS (from ChiDem, not the government organizationā¦)
They were clearly already strung up and projecting their issues onto me. Anyway, yeah, I love IRS. I think it's a clever and refreshing way to write about breakups. Plus, Axl's belt is insane
What did axl give to slash and izzy that made them write salty lovesongs about him lol ??
it's funny, axl evokes such deep emotions from people. it's born out of their love and frustration

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The implications behind this... because we know Estranged is a song about the loss in Axl's life as result of unrequited love, like things back at home in Lafayette, Erin, and when he performed it, eventually Stephanie and Dylan came to his mind. I believe it reminded him of Izzy leaving, too, and at that point it hurt too much to do the song, because that's what is implied when you watch their documentary Guns N' Roses: The Making of Estranged, where Axl says, "Every situation in my life that relates to any of the words in the song are going through my head in that particular time." And a few moments later, we have Matt pointing out that they performed Estranged back when Izzy was in the band and kind of stopped doing it for a while after he left.
And howās anybody can doubt Axlās love for Izzy after Donāt Cry (UYI 2 blue album version)? Itās so devastating.
(Sorry Slash, but you still got Street of dreams, and Sorry)
Oh, I'm not familiar with the lore behind Don't Cry (Alternative lyrics). But I do want to bring up Estranged. Let me find the clip, and I'll elaborate.
Iāll make a post or answer an ask or whatever, and someone will go like, Please, they werenāt actually fucking
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Meanwhile, the fans on twitter: "gays n roses is their proper name" lmao
Twitter is the dumbest app after tiktok, and I genuinely havenāt seen anyone on that app that has functioning brain cells
People acting like you HAVE to ship band members or youāre somehow boring / insufferable is so weird to me
No offense but projecting sexualities / relationships onto real people is way more insufferable than simply⦠not doing that
You're not following the right people if that's the case... I follow both shippers and non-shippers, they all interact normally with my posts. And no one expects you to be a shipper. There are well-known accounts who don't ship, like TheGNRGiirl. And when my non-shipping followers see my shipping posts there, they will either ignore it because it's not their cup of tea or joke around with me, understanding it's not serious, or retweet because it's evidence of the band's friendship.
Do you think I'm calling non-shippers insufferable? Like, reading comprehension is zero. I'd follow you if you post about Axl/GN'R, period, doesn't matter if you ship or not. I'm calling out the people here, who will see that I'm a shipping account, interact with my posts even where I'm just acknowledging their friendship (which is majority of the time, most of my posts are about their factual friendship), and be like, they're not actually gay btw, you're reading too much into it!
Like, thank you, I am well-aware. I say it on my posts often enough, I don't presume to know the band members themselves or their friendship beyond what has been shown to us.
Don't like my content, block and move on. Acting hoity-toity on Tumblr of all places, the main hub of shipping content.
Iāll make a post or answer an ask or whatever, and someone will go like, Please, they werenāt actually fucking
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Meanwhile, the fans on twitter: "gays n roses is their proper name" lmao

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Iāll make a post or answer an ask or whatever, and someone will go like, Please, they werenāt actually fucking
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how could anyone listened to 14 years doubt Izzyās love for Axl??
Or Slashās love for Axl after listening to back and forth again??
back and forth again is just insane to me. slash really went ahead and dedicated an entire album to axl, lol