what if i told i prefer them over jackienat and lottieshauna huh? what then?

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what if i told i prefer them over jackienat and lottieshauna huh? what then?

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adult travnat and to an extent travlottienat becomes more and more fucked up the more you think about it. because take juliette lewis' iteration of natalie, so stubbornly sure that travis wouldn't kill himself because he promised. and look at her long enough to see sophie thatcher's natalie saying 'i kept a promise' after stabbing ben in the heart. take adult travis calling lottie to bring him back to reality as soon as he passes out and you look at him long enough to see the boy who rescued akilah as soon as she passed out in that cave. he witnessed it all before and he still called lottie. you take nat and travis' 25 year long on and off bullshit and you stare at it and ask yourself what were their hookups even like? one line of coke and then we mourn your brother who died in my place and our teacher and mentor whom i mercy killed as you kept watch for me? how many times did javi haunt them, how many times did ben, and how many times did lottie herself, who they thought locked away in a psych ward in another continent? how many times did they long for her hand on their hearts? 'they won't forgive you', but did he ever forgive her for javi or was it always an open wound? was it even sex or was it trauma re-enactment? when you first hear about their suicide pact in s1 you're like, sure, average addict situation. except it's not and it's a promise just like the one nat had to keep for ben, just like the one travis covered her for, just like the one that almost cost her life except it didn't because lottie saved her because lottie always saved her. she was supposed to save him too. but lottie's great, devastating tragedy was always her being so well-meaning and ultimately so out of control.
"The only way to confront the darkness is to get as close to death as possible."

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I really wish some people would do at least a little research on schizophrenia before they post their Lottie Matthews hate because there are truly some very ignorant and harmful ideologies being spread. You can tell many of these people have never interacted in any meaningful way with someone diagnosed with schizophrenia and it shows. It’s a severely stigmatized and underrepresented disorder and it’s a shame that both fandom behavior and the writing of the show itself at times contribute to this. And it’s also really a shame that actual people with schizophrenia have shared with me they relate to and connect to aspects of Lottie’s depiction, and then they go online and see black-and-white fandom takes that make them feel like absolute shit!
The phrase “mental illness isn’t an excuse” is absolutely important and true, but that framing, when it comes to severe psychotic disorders like schizophrenia, is frequently used in a way that muddles important distinctions between intent, agency, and responsibility. Harm is harm, and victims of this harm deserve recognition, accountability, and care. What gets lost in a lot of fandom discourse is that the “no excuse” argument is often used in an oversimplified manner that assumes a level of cognitive control that is not possible in active, severe psychosis. It treats schizophrenia as if it functions like anxiety or depression, where insight is often still accessible and behavior is more clearly determined by choice. That assumption is inaccurate and reinforces stigma by framing people with psychotic disorders as morally deficient or ethically corrupt rather than severely impaired.
“I can’t believe Lottie would cross Shauna’s boundaries being obsessed with her baby” “Did she consider the emotional impact that seeing Callie wearing Jackie’s necklace would have on Shauna? She’s such a terrible person!” “I can’t believe she smiles after Nat’s death, she really doesn’t care about any of them” “Everyone is telling her to stop in the wilderness and she doesn’t listen to them!” “She keeps doubling down instead of apologizing” “She’s power-hungry and manipulating the group in the wilderness to control them” “She always thinks she’s right” “She doesn’t care about other people’s emotional states or the harm she’s causing”
Lottie👏is👏not👏connected👏to👏reality👏when👏she👏does👏these👏things! When Lottie acts under the influence of her visions, she is not weighing options and morality, with full access to reality, and deciding to prioritize belief over people. She is responding to what her brain is telling her is happening. In her mind, the Wilderness is a all-powerful entity that is protecting her and everything/everyone she loves. That is her absolute reality, and when she’s deeply caught in it as we see she is especially in Seasons 2 and 3, she’s not able to recognize anything else. In her mind enacting the Wilderness’s will is helping people. And telling her “This isn’t real Lottie, you’re hurting people and you need to stop!” is just not effective when she’s in that state.
There is also a difference between explanation and justification that gets reduced online. Explaining how schizophrenia shapes Lottie’s actions is not the same as excusing the harm she causes. It’s an attempt to understand causality, not to erase impact. You can hold two truths at once: Lottie’s actions have devastating consequences, and she is not operating with the same agency or intent as someone who is fully grounded in reality. That is a fact.
What makes Lottie’s arc particularly tragic is that the group repeatedly reinforces her psychosis instead of interrupting it. They validate her delusions, elevate her to a spiritual figure, and place responsibility for the group’s survival onto someone who is actively unwell for their own benefit. Blame is often placed solely on her, when in reality the environment, the lack of treatment, the trauma, and the group’s desperation all play a role in amplifying her symptoms and contribute to a dynamic of the other girls having control and power over Lottie, not the other way around. Which causes her to spiral. This isn’t even subtext, it’s text. Van literally says, “She’s like this because of us.”
Lottie certainly has moments of intentional manipulation and harm. All of the YJs do. But the truth is that a vast majority of the time, her intentions are not malicious. This does not erase the impact of her actions and does not mean she is innocent in any way. But more nuance needs to be included in these conversations!!! Lottie is not your innocent deer girl or your evil crazy villain. The show is certainly not a 100% accurate/unproblematic textbook representation of schizophrenia and I wish they had handled things a lot differently, but we’re also discussing real symptoms here that are experienced by real people. This needs to be done with more care.
there's something about adult timeline parkinglot. like van's first reaction to seeing lottie, her not wanting to hospitalize her, her reaction to lottie's death. it just goes to show how pure and unwavering van's devotion to lottie truly is, despite everything.
i've seen all of your fuffy and jackieshauna parallels, and while i agree with you, and see how they totally fit, i'd like to propose a coffy/lottienat comparison. just think about it for like three minutes, because it makes soo much sense honestly.

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sorry i have got to be a weird dyke about this
i think that not being the main show and always being on the brink of not getting renewed for more seasons gave angel the series the freedom to be somehow both darker and sillier than buffy the vampire slayer. and while that brought a lot of good things (i.e everything lorne, angel's fight with morality, karaoke sessions, dennis a.k.a cordy's roomate) i believe it got to a point where they took said freedom too far and that's how season 4 came to be.
one thing about angel is he'll always end up involved in a weird polycule somehow
btvs writers really though one of the most romantic lines in like ever, then looked at it and said yea let's give it to HALFREK ?!?!?!?!?
no cause like wdym that she just casually told anya "who told you it isn't easy to love you". i would've called off the wedding with xander then and there and married halfrek instead like what??
Adult Van is annoyed by her younger self, doesn't want to engage with her because that's the version of herself she's buried. Teen Van did A Lot of Bad Shit to Survive and Adult Van wants nothing to do with that anymore, thank you.
But Teen Van is enamored with Adult Van. That's her. In the future. That's Van back in civilization, who survived all the horrors and got to be weird and gay. Got to watch The Goonies 100 more times.
For Adult Van, Teen Van is an awful reminder.
For Teen Van, Adult Van is hope.

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something something i don't know where you end and i begin. something something what is you is me there's nothing you could ever say that would make me let go. something something i know what youre feeling cause im feeling it too. something something she's more than just my maid. something something doomed yuri (girl)friends to enemies.
what yall doing in yellowjackets season 4 when the rescue plane pulls up looking like this same exact plane huh!?!?!?!???!!?