Bark Bark bitch

Having a guy who believes that there is good in everyone, proven wrong, told their wrong, but still they believe.

Nightkit, a black tom with a white chest and tailtip. He's the most friendly and outgoing of his siblings, taking after his momma.

Flutterkit, a brown she-kit with black speckles. She's a little shy, but likes playing with the elders.

Silverkit, a silver she-kit with dark gray speckles. She likes to follow around warriors and queens and imitate them. It's unclear whether she's trying to be annoying, or whether she's just playing.

Pantherkit, a dark gray tom. He's a bit sullen and likes to stay in the nursery unless prompted to play.

Also would ThunderClan have a lot more kits than all the other clans and therefore be a bit bigger? They'd kinda have to be to hunt enough prey for a population that only has kits and nurses. Tigerclaw might want his clan to conquer the others with their greater manpower (catpower?)

Aww I love these kits and the thought you've put in.

Honestly I've been thinking about it for a while. Because I hate the cop out of "its just fetish based, don't think too deeply."

So Thunderclan being like this from Dawn of the Clans helps smooth some things. They were able to plan and work around some of them by recruiting or bringing in more like minded toms. As well as when Skyclan left, bringing in some of their cats.

Also a hunting molly being seen as desirable or rare also encourages the toms to let them learn.

While the clan is definitely full of kits, the mollys aren't confined to the nursery. There might be permanent queens like Daisy who watch over all the kids.

Tigerclaw definitely believed in Thunderclan supremacy all the same though theres a lot more misogynistic undertones. "Riverclan needs molly's to win fights." "Windclan let a molly lead them."(he was alive for Heatherstar's reign iirc) "Shadowclan allows mollys to remain mateless."

Since Bluefur would have never had a chance of being deputy, it's tempting to think she would have kept her kits, but I still think she would have sent them to RiverClan to live a more egalitarian life (but it's even sadder because she wouldn't be able to see them at every gathering like if she was leader)

Would Tigerstar have influenced ShadowClan to have similar sexist tendencies? If not, maybe that's why Tawnypaw chose to go to ShadowClan

Alternatively, part of the reason why Tigerclaw wants to be deputy and eventual leader of ThunderClan is because he feels that Thrushstar is too "soft" on she-cats (I can't imagine he would be too tyrannical bc of how he reacted to learning Bluefur had halfclan kits)

Would Fernpaw have been assigned to Darkstripe because if so. RIP

Bluefur did give up her kits still in this AU. She was never fully okay with just being someone's pet. And she never wanted that for her daughters or to see her son become like their clanmates.

Thrushstar knows and will tell her about them at the gathering. Though she knows she'll likely never see them again.

Tigerstar tried, but Shadowclan wasn't as on board with the whole she-cats as second class cats. Still he promoted mostly toms and did make the culture more misogynistic. Tawnypaw still follows her father to Shadowclan and is his she-cat until his death.

Thrushstar is a nice leader, and soft overall. He's welcoming to outsiders and didn't punish Bluefur for losing "their" kits. He's definitely seen as wishy-washy by Tigerstar. And as a she-cat sympathizer.

Sadly yes. Fernpaw is initially Darkstripe's she-cat until things come out, then she is reassigned to Dustpelt. But by then the damage is done. While birth control herbs are typical for apprentices to take, their not a hard rule. Fernpaw was not on any while with Darkstripe.

holy shit I did not expect an ask about it but oh boy am I excited.

So she-cats are not typically trained in normal warrior duties. They're trained to please toms and raise kits. But some toms prefer their cats to know how to hunt/fight/patrol. So they'll train them/ have them trained.