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“Aegon must be found, and he must be brought to me. The very fate of the Seven Kingdoms depends on it.”
ok i think we all saw it coming

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WTF was that? One of the reasons I was liking HOTD so much more than GOT is because it had regained its essence. Where everything is grey ,in fact here it was much more grey. Each character evolved and their decisions could become contradictory but that was what made them interesting.
Tywin could treat people like Gendry with respect but do atrocities to his own son. It was the same here. Viserys killed his wife for a baby and crawled to the throne to defend his daughter. But in these last chapters everything seems to be forgotten. Back to the same essence of the last seasons of GOT. Obviously Aegon has to be bad ,VERY BAD ,raping girls and watching 10 year old fights. Criston is simply reduced to an extremist hater, Otto always talked about the order in the kingdom but the writers were lazy to talk about it and they only left the part where he wants the throne. Larys one of the most interesting characters in the book was reduced to an ambitious fetishist... for god sake. The series had already gone out of its way to make Rhaenyra "a good girl" in the last few chapters (even though the situation lent itself to not doing so) to such a degree that Daemon (the same one who almost killed a messenger and killed his innocent wife) seems like a good guy. The series goes out of its way to ignore any sins the blacks commit and paint the greens as the bad guys.I can understand that from the fans, but that the series makes it canon, that's the worst.
Cmonnn... A little more fairness. It's obvious they do it because a lot of fans support Rhaenyra and they need fan service. But not like that.The Rhaenys scene is the worst BY FAR(much more than the death of the old man at the council, this series definitely hates Criston). It's so random so unnecessary and incoherent, and I asked.... WHY WHAT? . WHY? i want to know how "THE GREEN COUNCIL" thinks? ,it's their time.for one chapter only your spoiled children won't see Daemon,ok, you did it already ,do it right. Is it so hard for once to focus on giving depth to one side of the war? It looks like an ao3 fanfic scene ,for god sake. The story had all the elements precisely to be a civil war. You could come to understand ,until a couple of chapters ago ,why some would not want Rhaenyra to have the crown. Many not even for the obvious reasons. But now they reduce it to "she's a woman" or "we want the throne".
The script had room for more and it is evident that they did not want to talk about it. And it was even funny to see how desperate the script was to move things forward without stopping to explore all this. Alicent even has some doubts about everything that happens but nah ,why show his turning point? Let's just put that she already decided and talks to Otto. Same with Aegon. It needed to be understood ,in an unbiased way ,why they act like that Not simply being the bad guys because the fans want them to be the bad guys , even worse that is no excuse to take away depth from each character.
There are several reasons why all there don't want to see Rhaenyra on the throne but it seems the series didn't bother even a little bit to delve into that. I hope it doesn't follow that trend because it would be disappointing to see the franchise become ,AGAIN,a toy of the fanboys
On the appointed day Ser Criston Cole placed the iron-and-ruby crown of Aegon the Conqueror upon the brow of the eldest son of King Viserys and Queen Alicent, proclaiming him Aegon of House Targaryen, Second of His Name, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.
Many did not understand why Alicent was so convinced that Viserys had indeed chosen Aegon as his successor. But this scene is key
Fabien Frankel as SER CRISTON COLE in House of the Dragon 1x09
Kingmaker👑
what i find so fascinating about criston cole and his position and emotional state in the past two episodes is the fact that... he has almost (not entirely of course but more than most men in this world would be) been pushed into a social position of powerlessness that is usually reserved for women. he ends up having sex with rhaenyra in a situation where the power dynamics are a bit weird and uncomfortable for him (reminiscent of how young women are expected to perform their 'marital duties' to husbands they rarely get to choose and who have pretty much absolute control over them), his celibacy vows that he betrays in that moment almost feel like an apt metaphor/stand in for a young ladies maidenhead. and then when he tries to reconcile these things with himself and with rhaenyra by asking her to run away with him, he finds that he matters very little on a personal level to her. he feels used and abandoned and betrayed. it's somewhat of comparable to the position of a young highborn lady who got seduced into sleeping with a man under the impression that he would marry her and therefore 'save' her from the social repercussions of her own sexual freedom and his manipulations, only to be left hanging and facing the wrath of society. it obviously doesn't fully compare, but it is probably as close to it as any man would come. and that's why i find his devastation and visceral violence (through attempted self annihilation + murder) so interesting. especially when compared to the way rhaenyra and alicent react to their own experiences with these things.
and it also makes a lot of sense why him and alicent would bond in this weird, bitter way against rhaenyra in that situation. she attempts to get out of her socially imposed position of powerlessness (without full success, of course) in a way that neither of them feel is possible to them, as a choice. rhaenyra's attempts at agency and her treatment of both of them in search for that agency feel like a betrayal to them. a personal betrayal, but also a betrayal of the social order they feel like they habe to hold onto because they can not imagine an escape from it. rhaenyra refuses to let go, or apologize for what little power and agency she carved out for herself, leaving criston in a powerless position he feels is unbearable and isolating and shutting out alicent, despite knowing about her misery and pain.
and i honestly can not wait for how fucked up that relationship between the two is going to get, emotionally lol.

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HOUSE OF THE DRAGON | 1.09 The Green Council
It was honestly one of the most unnecessary scenes in THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE. 😕
This could be because I know how shit goes down with Rhaenyra and Criston Cole in F&B but that whole scene was...questionable. The focus on his white cloak in that one shot. His hesitancy and the fact that dude looked nowhere near as excited or happy as Rhaenyra in any shot. The scene the next day where he avoids really even making eye contact with her.
Like, I don't think that marital bed scene with Viserys and Alicent was there JUST to parallel Rhaenyra and Daemon in the pleasure house.
She is the princess and heir, he is a Kingsguard. And the entire reason he has that position is because she gave it to him. I'm just gonna straight up say that I think that Ser Criston Cole might not deny that Rhaenrya is attractive and he may not have been entirely opposed to sleeping with her buuut I also think he felt that he could not reject her.
I think this may be the base of his resentment towards her and later events
Hey Alicent, Jacaerys would have made Heleana happy and wouldn't have shame her!
It hurts. You get attached to the characters and you watch this knowing what's coming. The script can do EVERYTHING possible (rewriting) scenarios to empathize with Rhaenyra but ...fuck. If Alicent ,to please his father ,the king and the whole damn kingdom swallowed a lot of crap. why couldn't Rhaenyra ,by god ,have legitimate children? That solved the problem. A lot of people would say anything about Criston but the guy is right, Rhaenyra is just a spoiled child. 😕😕😕😕😕
This guy makes us proud 🥹🥹🥹🥹

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"where did you hear those rumours?!"
"aegon."
aegon:
Wait
What?
what i find so fascinating about criston cole and his position and emotional state in the past two episodes is the fact that... he has almost (not entirely of course but more than most men in this world would be) been pushed into a social position of powerlessness that is usually reserved for women. he ends up having sex with rhaenyra in a situation where the power dynamics are a bit weird and uncomfortable for him (reminiscent of how young women are expected to perform their 'marital duties' to husbands they rarely get to choose and who have pretty much absolute control over them), his celibacy vows that he betrays in that moment almost feel like an apt metaphor/stand in for a young ladies maidenhead. and then when he tries to reconcile these things with himself and with rhaenyra by asking her to run away with him, he finds that he matters very little on a personal level to her. he feels used and abandoned and betrayed. it's somewhat of comparable to the position of a young highborn lady who got seduced into sleeping with a man under the impression that he would marry her and therefore 'save' her from the social repercussions of her own sexual freedom and his manipulations, only to be left hanging and facing the wrath of society. it obviously doesn't fully compare, but it is probably as close to it as any man would come. and that's why i find his devastation and visceral violence (through attempted self annihilation + murder) so interesting. especially when compared to the way rhaenyra and alicent react to their own experiences with these things.
and it also makes a lot of sense why him and alicent would bond in this weird, bitter way against rhaenyra in that situation. she attempts to get out of her socially imposed position of powerlessness (without full success, of course) in a way that neither of them feel is possible to them, as a choice. rhaenyra's attempts at agency and her treatment of both of them in search for that agency feel like a betrayal to them. a personal betrayal, but also a betrayal of the social order they feel like they habe to hold onto because they can not imagine an escape from it. rhaenyra refuses to let go, or apologize for what little power and agency she carved out for herself, leaving criston in a powerless position he feels is unbearable and isolating and shutting out alicent, despite knowing about her misery and pain.
and i honestly can not wait for how fucked up that relationship between the two is going to get, emotionally lol.
Defending my colors (1/?) Criston Cole AKA "it's been 10 years, let it go" "
Criston
good criston. it's simple. he lives by the values of a knight. honor, respect, bravery. it's beyond a belief, it's who he is. a guy who is devoted to a princess, the same one who gave him the highest honor he could ever achieve.
To be with Rhaenyra he had to break that. Just think about that. He betrayed all that he is for that night. And it's something Rhaenyra doesn't understand. The guy doesn't hate her because of the rejection, he hates her because she made him betray himself. He'd rather dream of traveling to Essos than take responsibility and wear his white cloak every day knowing what he has done it. every day he'll remember what he did. and how that ended. that's why he still hates her.
why he kills joffrey? after processing all this, begging for mercy and humiliating himsel to his queen, he spends that night believing he is doomed to death. joff assumes he is Rhaenyra's lover, but he believes she told him so. That's why he kills him. Because it is painful enough for him to realize that he broke his vows on a whim of Rhaenyra and now to know that she told someone else. On that ship and that night the guy saw the image he had of the princess crumble.
I am team green not for the sake of "supporting a cause". I am because they have better characters. Criston is one of the most underrated. a guy who suffers from guilt, who has regrets, who feels betrayed. someone you can understand without much effort. someone who probably every day thinks "i shouldn't have done that" "if i had done this it would be different" but he can't change it, he has to live with that. obvious, he is a son of a bitch who is going to start a war because of that, i'm not trying to justify that. But I think it's better written and Fabien has done too good a job to be reduced to a scorned crybaby.
It's easy enough to reduce Criston Cole's Episode 5 behaviour to being in love with Rhaenyra, but the truth of the matter is that his reaction doesn't revolve around her so much as it revolves around his struggle with honor and purpose.
As he said back in episode 3, Kingsguard is the highest honor that his house has ever had. What he and Rhaenyra initially had was very much reminiscent of the courtly love that was dominant in Arthurian legend, the concept that a knight and lady could have affections for one another while respecting the boundaries of their stations and maintaining a sense of "purity".
It's already been discussed that the episode 4 conflict of to-sleep-with-rhaenyra-or-not-to was not 100% consensual because Criston was in a position of subservience to Rhaenyra and it was very much a "damned if you do, damned if you dont" situation. He risks death either way and ends up breaking his vows to appease her. Of course, it is apparent enough that he harbored feelings for her. But two things can be true at the same time.
We open to episode 5, where Criston proposes that they run away and marry one another, already without his armour and showing his vulnerability to her. When Rhaenyra rejects, he tells her that he broke his vows as Kingsguard and thought that marrying her would relieve him of his guilt. Guilt over what? Breaking his vows, of course. When she suggests that they continue on as lovers while she married Laenor, he reduces it to being her "whore".
In Criston's eyes, the only way he can properly make up for his sin of breaking his Kingsguard vows is by swearing the vows between two people in matrimony, another lifelong commitment. If it was simply about love in his eyes, he might have said "lover/paramour" but he specifically says "whore", someone who trades their body for coin.
Having his proposal be rejected by Rhaenyra was not simply the loss of a romantic future he thought they could have, it was the loss of his chance to redeem himself and regain the honor he lost by sleeping with the woman who gave him his job and whom he was sworn to protect.
It's why he loses all control over himself when Joffrey tries to build a rapport with him and insinuates that they are on the same boat. Criston does not want to be Joffrey's equivalent, a "whore" for their King/Queen to enjoy. To him, there is no honor in that. But the reality of it is staring him so plainly in the face during the feast that he needs to eliminate that reminder by attacking and killing poor Joffrey.
That inability to live with the reality of his situation is further emphasized when he finally tries to kill himself. He's more than a scorned man, he's a man who's lost his purpose and blames himself for it (as seen when he admits to Alicent that he slept with Rhaenyra and accepts the fate of death).
When Alicent stops him from doing the deed, what she is essentially doing is giving him a chance to regain his honour and a new sense of purpose: serving her and her children. It is possible that they will have the courtly love that is more true to Arthurian legend, Criston having such a deep devotion to his Queen and his role as her guard that he pushes the chess pieces to further the Greens' cause. Whether or not there will be a semblance of romance between them in the time jump, there will no doubt be the devotion that renders him one of Alicent's staunchest allies.
This 💚💚💚

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Aaaaaaaand the only winners tonight were the Larycents thanks to Larys being totally down to kill for Alicent to the point where even she was like "what in the FUCKING hell, my guy"
larys: the queen makes a wish. what servant would not fulfill it?
alicent: i…i did not wish for this
larys: okay alright, well does the queen wish for a complimentary little bug pin? i went overboard and had like 50 made lol