so are watcher fans going to apologize for the unreal amounts of racism they projected toward steven or are we going to pretend that was totally normal behavior?

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so are watcher fans going to apologize for the unreal amounts of racism they projected toward steven or are we going to pretend that was totally normal behavior?

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i am seeing all of the criticism of watchertv (and agreeing of course - it's entirely tone deaf and un-conducive among other things) but i feel as though the attitude i am seeing from a lot of people online involve absolving shane entirely, saying things like, "shane blink twice if they made you do this!" "shane "eat the rich" would never allow this!" "he was forced into this!" and redirecting all of the blame unto ryan and steven - mostly steven - saying that steven is the "ned fulmer of watcher" (wild thing to say) and delegating the responsibility of this decision entirely onto the two of them, and i cannot help but feel like there is an undeniable racial undertone to this rather vitrolic pivot. i understand being a fan of shane - i myself was a proud shaniac! - but i plead that we be conscious about woobifying an adult man who - though could have very well opposed the decision - was still one of the three ceos who okayed it! nothing is gained from scapegoating the two asian men and relinquishing the white one for the hate that this business venture is garnering. please, by all means, continue to criticize, but if you are, do it tastefully, and be careful with insinuations - especially without knowing the intricacies of the situation (and even if/when we do know something. criticism should never come from veiled bigotry) ! just because the property itself is shifting rather horribly doesn't mean we as watcherinas need to turn our community toxic <33
genuinely cannot imagine dickriding the watcher guys the way some of you have been. like they made a bad business decision! they alienated their audience! they made jokes about "eating the rich" and then one of their owners turned around and bought a tesla! they said they'd pull all their old content off youtube and then immediately backpedaled and started gaslighting the people who noticed it! they're just guys on the internet, they're not your friends and they are not anti-capitalists. they just want money and they don't care about their primarily young/international/non-wealthy audience.
another super insulting part of the watcher situation i haven't rly seen ppl addressing much
ryan deadass saying smth like "nobody else on youtube has made tv quality content"
like... i really feel like it's important to highlight that bc not only do they obviously have no respect for their audience, but that statement shows they have no respect for their peers in the industry, either.
not to mention it is a shining example of bleeding arrogance to such a high degree, you will straight up fucking lie bc you're truly convinced you're that special when you're anything but.
there's been NUMEROUS online creators who were recognized by entertainment industry workers BECAUSE they made tv quality content & even full stop blockbuster quality content.
bo burnham started on youtube & is now one of the most wellknown & loved standup comedians of our generation, with numerous netflix specials & even a movie he wrote & directed under his belt.
the try guys, fellow ex-buzzfeed employees, had their own tv specials on food network (based off their youtube shows, btw) & a documentary made about them as well
rosanna pansino has also been on numerous food network shows both as a host & a judge
quinta brunsun, another fellow ex-buzzfeed employee, went on to create her own whole ass sitcom that has been highly praised
matpat cameo'd in the fnaf movie because of his theories & multiple other fnaf creators had small cameos through the employee of the month board easter egg
markiplier made multiple high-quality shows on youtube & is now working on a highly anticipated movie (he was also planned to cameo in the fnaf movie but couldn't due to conflicting schedules with his own movie)
hot ones got their own tv gameshow due to their popularity & they are still one of the most wellknown, beloved & respected internet shows
many short films made on youtube went on to premiere at film festivals & even in theaters
the hit horror film "talk to me" was created by youtubers rackaracka
webseries of actual fucking tv shows have also existed for literal decades
the list goes on.
to seriously think that overproduced bullshit is all you need to make "tv quality content" is not only tone-deaf, but shows they do not even know what they're talking about. many tv shows & huge blockbuster movies are made with absolutely microscopic budgets & small teams, & they still get praised & awarded for the passion, dedication, & creativity that shined brightly under those restrictions.
the blair witch project is probably the most wellknown & highly praised example of this, but it is far from the Only example
it is a whole other slap in the face, again ESPECIALLY when puppet history is one of their most popular shows, to spit in the face of internet history. to see the success of their predecessors, even ppl they fucking worked with at buzzfeed, & deny them of all their success & efforts to get where they ended up.
no, y'all are not the first people to make "tv quality content" on the internet. FAR from it. because your crap isn't even genuine "tv quality".
but you are the first ones to ever disrespect not only your audience, but your own fucking industry & your peers on this level.
& you are the first & i sorely hope the only fuckwads dumb enough to pull a stunt this fucking stupid, out of touch & utterly tone deaf.
why are people on tumblr acting positive about the watcher news???? open your eyes and criticise what needs to be criticised.
watchers audience is not big enough (nor the right demographic!) and their content is not frequent enough to support having a whole independent streaming platform put behind a paywall that rich man steven lim says is ‘affordable’ for ‘everyone’ (an ignorant lie!)
this is a stupid business decision that id like to at least believe shane ‘eat the rich’ madej is not fully on board with…
THEY SHOULD BE RIGHTFULLY CRITICISED!!!!

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lmfao you're a moron if you think that steven's getting hate bc of racism and not because of. you know. the massive display of wealth while mishandling the company's financials and also the egregious homophobia and racism
get off anon and fight me like a man coward. was i saying all of the hate was bc of racism or did i say we should have a discussion ab racism in the fandom directed towards ryan and steven right now? munch me.
i think at this point we need to have a deep discussion on hero worship, parasocial relationships, and how corporations and large scale content creators function. also - demonizing the two poc on a team of three while saying shane is so anti-capitalist and would never do this is also weird and strange! y'all go off ab this and that while ignoring that creating scenarios ab "behind the scenes" is fucking weird, it's like the ned fulmer affair all over again! we literally do not know this people deep down, do i need to point at the sign again!
also to add - i am not defending watcher, they can take their 6 dollars a month and shove it up their ass, but is anyone actually surprised that there's a sense of tone deafness to this? they're basically sell outs at best, and this level of "it's only 6 dollars!" during a recession and their target audience being young and broke is dumb, but this fandom rlly needs to start inspecting their internal biases and hero worship of literally just two guys.
i think at this point we need to have a deep discussion on hero worship, parasocial relationships, and how corporations and large scale content creators function. also - demonizing the two poc on a team of three while saying shane is so anti-capitalist and would never do this is also weird and strange! y'all go off ab this and that while ignoring that creating scenarios ab "behind the scenes" is fucking weird, it's like the ned fulmer affair all over again! we literally do not know this people deep down, do i need to point at the sign again!
The people trying to say Shane was forced into this and would never do this are so psrasocial and also just weird. Shut up. You don't know how he's going to feel about every decision. I highly doubt he was forced into this, he is part of the decision making process.
holy shit has anyone considered an analog horror or something akin to that produced by ryan and shane. i know there's a freaky influx of puppet themed horror and whatnot lately but i think it'd be kind of interesting... pondering ... considering ....

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ryan considering it unbelievable to lie to his wife has the same energy as people who read nutrition labels on crackers and no i wont elaborate on this
You know what? I think Shane Madej deserves more credit for being literally the only man in the genre to actually walk the talk that he doesn’t believe in this shit. Other shows will be like “I am so SKEPTICAL I am a hardcore DEBUNKER” and then *two seconds later meme* “holy shit dude shadow people truly do control the government and Hillary Clinton hired the men in black to kill people, oh my god it’s all connected!” Ladies, if a man says he’s a skeptic, then he better be prepared to lie on a demon pentagram and laugh when a flashlight turns on and says it wants to kill him. Never settle for anything less.
i cannot believe the influx of porn blogs following me like im literally just blogging ab a puppet talking ab history and giving quizzes, i find only vague eroticism in that
puppet history quizzes are really like:
a.) historically correct, clearly fitting the theme and the character the figure/event is portrayed to be.
b.) a bit silly but still plausible, good for a gag bit, a little goofy even.
c.) a sexy genie in a sexy outfit through time and space and unraveling the cosmic horror of the series. the genie does nothing besides destroy the timeline, obsessing and chasing over a blue little guy. going back on the wish the professor made because he is jealous that he has ascended to godhood. what is a genie to a god, what is the rightful ownership of a wish-
hello shane madej I am no longer asking I am demanding. give me the hot daga.

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too many spirits but instead of user submitted horror atories, it's unsolved shyan fanfiction from ao3
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