american culture war is so fucking cringe it's just a bunch of grown men trying to make any popular thing about themselves like why are you talking about a disney movie. it's a fucking disney movie. are you stupid

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@bavovniatko
american culture war is so fucking cringe it's just a bunch of grown men trying to make any popular thing about themselves like why are you talking about a disney movie. it's a fucking disney movie. are you stupid

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Part 2/2 to the last post I made about what Americans have to said to me about Russia’s war in Ukraine, inspired by @bavovniatko !
✨This one is not all negative comments, but just things I feel need more commenting on. ✨
This is also more about what I’ve heard at fundraising events and art fairs.
“I can’t believe this war has gone on for four years.” - it has actually been longer. This war did not start in 2022, that’s when Russia expanded its invasion. It started in 2014 with invasions into Donbas (eastern Ukraine) and Crimea (southern peninsula of Ukraine), and if you want to get metaphorical it started long before that, but that’s a long conversation. So really it’s been 12 years!!!
***Ukrainians might have to correct me on this, but my understanding is that the first time Russia physically challenged Ukraine’s territory sovereignty after 1991 independence was in 2003 during the Tuzla Island Conflict (Конфлікт щодо острова Тузла) when Russia tried to build a bridge to a Ukrainian island.
“I wish the US was doing more.” — I wish so too. A Pew Research Study from this year reported that 29% of Americans wished the US was doing more to help Ukraine. Here’s the fun part: Every individual has the power to do something concrete. Not just performative actions like posting about it once on social media. It’s about doing something that actually makes a difference. Staying educated and caring is a baseline.
⭐️Every state has Ukrainian groups you can support locally and attend their events. They usually host concerts, festivals, holiday markets, cooking contests, etc. all to raise money for Ukrainians in Ukraine and in your community! My favorite are the pysanka workshops in the spring, where you get to make and bring home a decorated egg :)
I recommend looking at what skills and connections you have and how you can use those to help Ukrainians. Also check out if your city has a Sister City relationship with a Ukrainian city and look into what your community has done to make a difference in Ukraine! There’s lots of inspiring stories out there!!!!!!!!!!
Your fellow Americans have raised millions for Ukrainians. Things like generators, ambulances, clothing, medical equipment, solar panels, drones, gear for Ukrainian soldiers, art therapy rooms, and the list goes on and on. These next few points are just some ideas.
Volunteer, start, and donate to fundraisers for Ukraine. Or go online to ENGin and help Ukrainian kids practice English and learn some Ukrainian too. Find out what your community is doing for Ukrainians, and if it’s nothing, then this is your opportunity to change that :)
The biggest American charities that are specifically about Ukraine include: Razom, Nova Ukraine, DAWN. But there are a bunch of smaller reputable non-profits as well!! Look to see what’s in your state. World Central Kitchen is also highly recommended.
Advocate. Have conversations that will make a difference; like encouraging others to donate, dismantling Russian propaganda, or start a fundraiser yourself. If you live near DC, consider participating in political advocacy for Ukraine (with Razom, Nova Ukraine, or the American Coalition for Ukraine)
🦅🇺🇸💥Fun fact for Americans: There’s a website called Charity Navigator that rates charities (IRS code 501(c)(3) non-profits) based on their public tax records and transparency. You can also examine public tax records (Form 990 for big non-profits, Form 990EZ for smaller non-profits) to see which charities are actually putting most of their funds towards their cause and not just admin and advertising. You can find the formulas and more information about what to look for online. (This topic could really be a whole other post.)
“I hope Trump ends this war soon.” - He doesn’t care at all about Ukraine, neither does Musk. They are a lot of things, including very much in favor of wars and chaos. Have you thought about how you can help Ukrainians right now? *lists off ideas from above*
“I hope Putin ends this war soon.” Spoiler: Putin is not going to end this war. He does not want to. Not in 2014, not in 2022, and not now. He doesn’t care.
“Trump is friends with Putin so he’ll bring him to the negotiating table.” - . . .
“Trump is a Russian puppet.” — Not only Trump. There are also a number of American politicians who also spew Russian talking points. Plus orgs like the NRA, for example, were investigated for their connections to Russian politicians. Russian interference in our politics didn’t end in 2016 or 2020. This is why political advocacy for Ukraine is so important.
“I saw videos/news online of [insert battle or traumatic moment].” - It’s sad that people all over the world can watch this unfold on their phones, isn’t it? And then we go on about our days because we think we can’t do anything or that it’s not our problem. How would you feel if someone filmed your worst or even your last moments on Earth? Have you considered ways to help? *rambles off ideas about how they can make a difference*
“ *tells me personal story about a Ukrainian they know* ” — Please stay in contact with them and kindly ask if there’s anything you can do to help them. Many Ukrainians have told me that they feel forgotten. Remind them that they are not forgotten by finding concrete ways to help them personally and their countrymen. Kind words and listening are always welcomed, but words of support will likely feel more hallow as this war drags on. Please find concrete ways to support them.
“Why do you support Ukraine? Do you have Ukrainian roots?” — A person doesn’t have to have “roots” to care :) *proceeds to explain what my friends in Ukraine have gone through and are still going through everyday*
“Slava Ukraini!” (“Glory to Ukraine!”) - I was shocked the first time someone said this to me after looking at the art I was selling to raise money for Ukraine. I accidentally said “Дякую» (“Thanks”) I meant to say “Heroyam Slava” (“Glory to the Heroes”) 😅 ooops
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Andddddd that’s all I have for now. I’m sure there’s more, and especially much worse things being said, but I don’t continue conversations with conspiracy theorists and stubborn ragebaiters.
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Link to part one
Дякую! ❤️
Thank you for your support 😭
We appreciate it so much (even if we are bitter, it's exhaustion that speaks)
Part 1/2
This is inspired by a post from @bavovniatko about mean and/or misinformed things Americans say about Ukraine and Russia’s war. I’m only listing what I’ve heard in-person. There’s far more people/bots are saying.
I’ve heard these phrases since 2014 and 2022, and I wanted to write about them now, since it seems they still need some explaining 😐
“Giving them aid won’t really do anything. They aren’t going to beat Russia.” — This whole “oh-the-war-is-already-settled” mentality is what Russia wants you to believe. They want you to think that this is all one and done, so they can take over without really having to put up a fight. It’s called “reflexive control” and what Russia does is invade your news and social media feed with lies about how powerful they are (+ other lies) so that way people feel defeated before any resistance.
Important Note: Russian bots will portray themselves as Americans. They stir the pot in all sorts of issues and play both sides to build an illusion. They influence everyone from the President to your friends. They spread lies and say terrible things. That’s not to say that there’s Americans who don’t support Ukraine or are pro-Russian. It’s just that bots are everywhere now, especially during election years.
“Ukraine should just make peace with Russia.” — What happens when Russia pushes further? That’s not a hypothetical. *explains the Russian invasion of Donbas and Crimea to people who first heard of Ukraine in 2022* *proceeds to explain the Russian invasion of Georgia in 2008 and how they continue to encroach on their territory* *mentions the crippling Russian cyberattack of Estonia in 2007*
“Zelenskyy is so stubborn, he should just accept Trump/Putin’s deal.” — Yeah, I’d be stubborn too if everyone I loved was being murdered (and much worse) and it felt like some people were just standing by and watching, or worse—trying to gaslight me into giving in or making “deals”.
“Russia has a powerful army.” — They sent their soldiers in with broken and expired gear from the last century. Then they had to use prisoners as soldiers. Then they had to beg North Korea for soldiers.
“Ukraine is like [insert conflict/country].” — No. You can’t compare countries and conflicts because they are two different states with different histories, different geography, and different time periods. Ukraine is not like Taiwan. Ukraine is not like the Bosnian War. Sure, there might be slight similarities that you are biased to pick out, but it’s much more nuanced than that. Saying this phrase is an insult to both parties. You’re missing out on reality.
“I don’t think what the Ukraine is going through is as serious as a genocide.” — How do you define a genocide? is the next question I ask as calmly as possible. Ukrainians are being specifically targeted by Russia for total annihilation in this brutal war. There’s a bunch of photos, videos, and stories about this in the news. By the way, Wikipedia has a list of genocides and explanations. The most recent listed are Palestinians, Armenians, Uyghurs, Rohingya, and Ukrainians since 2014.
*And then I explain about the history of the Holodomor and about Crimean Tatars and why they shouldn’t say “the” Ukraine.*
“This is Putin’s war.” - Putin’s war and his generals’ war and the thousands who committed war crimes, oligarchs, every one of his citizens, and others who agree with Stalin that genocide is the answer. Putin and many others are responsible for war crimes as the International Criminal Court and monitoring groups have already stated. It is not just Putin who needs to be held accountable.
“Trump said he’d end the war in 24hrs.” - ...
“I feel bad for Ukrainians and I feel bad for the innocent Russians too.” — Being “uninvolved” in politics doesn’t make a person innocent. That country that arbitrarily invades another was imbued with a culture, politics, and hatred that made that decision somehow acceptable 👀
“It’s sad because the Russian people didn’t want this.” — Polls have read that 50-70% of them approve of the war. If they really didn’t want it, what are they doing to stop it? How are they showing solidarity with the Ukrainian people? . . .
“Oh, they can’t fight back against Putin” - Yes, yes they can.
“Ukraine and Russia are like brothers.” - the myth of friendship between Slavs was invented so Russia could dominate as the “big brother”. Please read a history book of Ukraine written by a reputable scholar without AI and absorb the information. Learn about how the Russian Federation is a continuation of the Russian Empire and Soviet Union.
Again, saying this overlooks the Crimean Tatars who are also victims of Russian aggression.
“Ukrainian and Russian are like the same language, aren’t they?” — No. As a person who studied both languages in university I can tell you that the answer is no. Linguistically, Ukrainian is closer to Polish and Belarusian. *proceeds to explain that the country of Belarus exists 😭* Yes, they are both Slavic languages and use Cyrillic letters, but the alphabets, vocabulary, and grammar are different. A lot of Ukrainians speak Russian, especially in the east, but this is because Russia colonized Ukraine and tried to eradicate the Ukrainian language/culture/history. The Russian Empire and Soviet Union also deported Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians, repopulating their homes with Russians, which is a tactic Russia is still using right now!!!!
“But they’re from the same culture, right?” — No, they have different cultures, different art styles, different literatures, different languages, different histories, different lives. Taras Shevchenko is not anywhere near comparable to Pushkin.
“This isn’t any of America’s business. All that aid Congress wants to send should go to Americans. It’s our tax dollars.” - It is America’s business because Clinton and crew made it our business when he encouraged Ukraine to give up their nuclear arsenal to Russia in the Budapest Memorandum in 1994. In exchange, the US promised “security guarantees” to Ukraine, to protect them. There’s more to unpack here, but imma leave at that.
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😮💨 More in part two, which I’ll post later.
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Bonus one from 2014:
“Why are they fighting? They should just share [occupied territories] instead of having a war.” - Never said out loud to anyone, but I was a child in 2014 when I first read the news online about the war in Donbas and didn’t know anyone affected by it. Even I believed that Ukraine and Russia were like brothers because that’s what people told me. After Russia shot down MH17, I learned more about what was happening. I stopped believing war and geopolitics were so simple and that I was some big-brained kid who had it all figured out.
✨A little lesson, that yes, people can change their views and educate themselves :)✨
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Thank you for writing this 🙏
In the photo are three friends: Anastasia Yalanska (26), Serhiy Ustymenko (25), and Maksym Kuzmenko (28). They do not yet know that this shot will become the final testament to their lives. That just a few kilometers away from where this photo was taken, an ambush awaits them—one from which no one will make it out alive.
On the morning of March 4, 2022, the friends loaded Serhiy's SUV with animal food. The plan was simple: deliver the supplies to a shelter in Zabuchchia and visit Serhiy's parents in Bucha.
They knew it was dangerous there, but they couldn't have imagined that the ruzzian occupation of the city had already begun, and the streets had turned into a site of mass executions. They were just mere meters away from reaching Serhiy's parents.
ruzzian soldiers fired about a hundred bullets at their car. Maksym died on the spot from a gunshot wound to the head. Nastya managed to jump out of the car, but she was shot in the legs. Serhiy also ran out of the vehicle and tried to shield his friend with his own body. "They simply finished them off," Anastasia's mother recounts.
The bodies of the young people could only be taken from the road in the afternoon, once the occupiers had advanced further into the city center. Serhiy's parents buried their son and his friends right in their own yard.
> 🗣 "The neighbors dug the grave. Valera [Serhiy's father – ed.] washed the children, because I was out of my mind with grief. I wrote down each child's last name, first name, patronymic, and date of birth. And I added: 'Shot on March 4, 2022.' Because if we were killed or bombed ourselves, I didn't want the children to remain unidentified," recalls Serhiy's mother.
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It was only after the de-occupation of Bucha that the friends could be properly reburied. The forensic examination confirmed the sheer brutality of that morning: Maksym suffered two gunshot wounds, Anastasia was hit six times, and Serhiy—nine.
💔 This text is based on the Suspilne Novyny investigation "Bucha: Shooting on Kyievo-Myrotska" by Olena Shabanova.

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"Because they are so mysterious 😭"
"They are anti usa so they are anti imperialism"
"it's putin's war"
"they are not guilty they were born in ruzzia..."
You may add to the list and we'll make a bingo card 😌
"Hating someone just because of their ethnicity is racism" (just don't tell that to russians lmfao)
"This is all because of the USA and NATO breaking their promises to russia."
"It's because Ukraine has become a vassal to the US." (because god forbid they treat us as a sovereign nation with its own will)
Ooh oh I have more brought to you by an actual tankie!
Ukraine was the aggressor (in 2014 and 2022)
Ukraine’s government is unjust because Euromaidan was a CIA operation designed to destroy a democratically elected leader
There were bioweapons factories in Ukraine making weapons that could only kill and target ruzzians (apparently there is a ruzzian… gene?)
I probably have more, each and every one of these was brought to you by someone on a different site who actually believes this
The whole "Lenin created Ukraine" thing is one of the most infuriating ones because you even see pro Ukrainian leftists and progressives promoting it, despite it being one of the lies that Putin uses to justify his claims that Ukraine lacks legitimacy and the right to sovereignty.
"Because they are so mysterious 😭"
"They are anti usa so they are anti imperialism"
"it's putin's war"
"they are not guilty they were born in ruzzia..."
You may add to the list and we'll make a bingo card 😌
"Hating someone just because of their ethnicity is racism" (just don't tell that to russians lmfao)
"This is all because of the USA and NATO breaking their promises to russia."
"It's because Ukraine has become a vassal to the US." (because god forbid they treat us as a sovereign nation with its own will)
Ooh oh I have more brought to you by an actual tankie!
Ukraine was the aggressor (in 2014 and 2022)
Ukraine’s government is unjust because Euromaidan was a CIA operation designed to destroy a democratically elected leader
There were bioweapons factories in Ukraine making weapons that could only kill and target ruzzians (apparently there is a ruzzian… gene?)
I probably have more, each and every one of these was brought to you by someone on a different site who actually believes this
"Because they are so mysterious 😭"
"They are anti usa so they are anti imperialism"
"it's putin's war"
"they are not guilty they were born in ruzzia..."
You may add to the list and we'll make a bingo card 😌
"Hating someone just because of their ethnicity is racism" (just don't tell that to russians lmfao)
"This is all because of the USA and NATO breaking their promises to russia."
"It's because Ukraine has become a vassal to the US." (because god forbid they treat us as a sovereign nation with its own will)
I'm proud that I'm Russian and was born in Russia and not a hohol pig, euromutt butt-licker.
"Я узький (с)"
Нуль днів, коли кацапня не пизділа шоь у коментарях.
So, єбана русня, слухай сюди
Your “great” country is already in its fith year of failing to capture a village with three grandmas and one tractor. Especially be proud of the ones currently fertilising the black soil under Malaya Tokmachka.
Your “Kyiv in three days” memes have already become a classic of world comedy.
Whole generations of the “second army of the world” are lying in neat layers in our soil. It's the most expensive organic fertiliser in history. Next year’s sunflower harvest is going to be fucking cosmic. Thank you for your service.
And don’t forget to be proud of those heroes who, during the grand “denazification” operation, made toilets their primary objective.
Because back home it’s still a bucket and a newspaper.
Most of all, be proud that you’re cheering for rapists and murderers.
So keep being proud.
History has already taken notes.
Russia just bombed the Odesa stadium. The Olympics just invited them back by the way.
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One ballistic missile costs Russia $2-3 million. And that's just one missile, they use hundreds in a month. Imagine what you could do with that amount of money instead...
"Because they are so mysterious 😭"
"They are anti usa so they are anti imperialism"
"it's putin's war"
"they are not guilty they were born in ruzzia..."
You may add to the list and we'll make a bingo card 😌
I think I said this before, but something about evil™️ just getting the stuff done while the good guys™️ are dragging their feet makes me lose my mind. Russia needs North Korean missiles - they get them. Russia needs North Korean troops - they get them. Cooperation with China, Iranian drones, Belarusian territory to invade Ukraine, American whatever-it-is-that-they're-doing-right-now. They get anything they want, while for us everything feels like a humiliation ritual. No no it's okay, strongly condemn that attack, that'll do!
according to westerners:
north korea and iran sending missiles to russia so they can kill us isn't an escalation
russians hunting down civilians with drones in occupation isn't an escalation
russians specifically killing civilians in their beds, in hospitals, at train stations, in schools etc isn't an escalation
russians going into NATO's airspace with missiles every other day isn't an escalation
russians interfering in elections all over the world isn't an escalation
did i forget anything? are we waiting for more? i genuinely can't understand these people's logic
Westerners: 😍😍😍😍 we love ruzzians. They are so mysterious
This is a true masterclass in historical gaslighting
Oh, ruzzia preserved cultures all right...
Only by aggressively trying to pave national cultures with a monolithic ruzzian identity.
Language Replacement: They loved native languages so much they outright banned them. Under the Russian Empire, decrees like the Valuev Circular (1863) and the Ems Ukaz (1876) literally banned the publication of books, religious texts, and even sheet music in the Ukrainian language. During the Soviet era, ruzzian was strictly enforced as the language of success, administration, and "brotherhood." If you wanted a career, you abandoned your mother tongue.
The Surname Makeover: To help non-ruzzians feel more "included" in the empire, authorities frequently altered indigenous surnames. Across Central Asia, the Caucasus, and Siberia, traditional names were forcefully modified to include Russian suffixes like -ov, -ev, and -in. It was administrative erasure disguised as clerical standardization.
"Nurturing" the Cultural Elites
You claimed the empire developed these nations. Indeed, they developed a highly efficient system for murdering anyone who remembered they were a distinct nation.
The Executed Renaissance: In the 1930s, Stalin's regime systematically arrested, deported, and executed a whole generation of Ukrainian writers, artists, and intellectuals because their vibrant cultural revival threatened moscow's control.
Katyn and Beyond: When the Soviets invaded Poland in 1939, they didn't develop the Polish intelligentsia; they took over 20,000 Polish officers and intellectuals into the forest of Katyn and shot them in the back of the head. Similar purges decimated the intellectual elites of the Baltic states, Belarus, and the Tatar populations. If you were a local leader, a poet, or a thinker who didn't enthusiastically bow to moscow, you were given a one-way ticket to a Gulag or a mass grave.
They Are "Still Doing It"
And that this isn't just history, it is current geopolitical policy.
In the occupied territories of Ukraine today, the ruzzian state is systematically burning Ukrainian history books, forcing schools to switch entirely to the ruzzian curriculum, and dismantling monuments of local cultural figures.
They are actively deporting thousands of Ukrainian children to ruzziia to be "re-educated" and given ruzzian passports—a textbook tactic of cultural genocide meant to sever the next generation from their heritage.
You are pointing fingers at the horrific histories of the British and Americans. But empire is empire. Ussr/ruzzian empire was a totalitarian meat grinder. It used the excuse of "economic equality" to justify mass murder, systemic oppression, and the complete suppression of human rights. So yes, they definitely "developed" those colonies—straight into the ground.

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How do I explain certain specifics of Ukrainian-russian interactions... did you know russians call Ukrainians many offensive words, but they don't get particularly creative.
One of russian insults towards Ukrainians is using the Ukrainian word for "independent" as a descriptor, but like an insult.
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Occasionally, I notice that some westerners think THEY know russians BETTER than Ukrainians who have been forced to neighbour russians for BASICALLY FOREVER. A lot of the more subtle things can be untranslatable or hold many small intercultural references, political memes even, or hints at previous events.
People outside of the bubble, who never had to tolerate russian internet spaces, can easily underestimate just how essential this survival for Ukrainians is.
Ukrainians also have russian relatives, used to have russian friends, and other long-lasting bonds that have been tested repeatedly throughout YEARS.
It's not like russians decided to invade Ukraine out of nowhere. People overlook the fact that Ukrainians have been resisting russian influences and fighting for just. basically living.
Why do Ukrainians always have to pay with their best and bravest people to prove they are people who deserve TO BE
My father's relatives live in ruzzia, oh boy don't even start
Civilian homes in the Podil District of Kyiv, Ukraine after russian missiles strikes half an hour ago.