If you write a list of the pros and cons to eating animals, you’ll find that pretty much the only thing you’ll have in the pros column is taste. In the cons column you’ll find a long list of ethical, environmental and health reasons to avoid animal products. But people ignore all of these facts in favour if the one measly pro: taste.

Everyone knows we’re omnivores. You didn’t need to trouble yourself by copying down ‘Evolution for dummies’ into your post. So what? Omnivores can easily and healthily survive on plants only. Exhibit A: the fact that i’m alive and healthy. As are thousands of other vegans. It’s a moral question not a scientific one. We can survive on plants so it’s more ethical to not kill anything when we don’t need to.

The drivel from your last paragraph is categorically false. The common misconception that animal products are causative factors in diseases such as heart disease stems from an unscientific study with a small sample size, disregarded contradictory data, and no control group.

Also, I said I WOULD obliterate you. As in, in the future. What I wrote out above was just physiological information that proves humans are designed to be omnivores. And since your brains are apparently atrophied from your vegan diet, I guess I should point out that form follows function and our bodies are designed to be omnivorous; therefore we require an omnivorous diet. Evolution does away with unnecessary traits. If we didn’t need to eat animal products, we wouldn’t produce hydrochloric acid in our stomachs. It would be a waste of important energy. Yet for millions, actual millions, of years, our bodies have produced HCl in the stomach for the sole purpose of beginning the digestive process for animal products. In fact, the theory goes that eating fish is the reason why our brains began to grow in the first place.

And you think that, in your single lifetime, you can thrive on ignoring everything your body demands? How fucking arrogant are you?

Iron, B12, D3, lipids and sugars are all within normal range thanks for asking!

I’m a post grad medical student and you lecturing me on medical science is really lame. It’s not ‘categorically false’, look at this months issue of JAMA internal medicine you loser, higher animal protein was associated with all cause mortality in a robust study and there’s plenty of others to back it up in the references that are good, well designed studies. You’re behind the times, it’s not even controversial in medical and dietetic circles that high meat consumption is bad for you. Everyone knows that? Yes, unplanned vegan diets can lead to deficiency but it is absolutely possible to have a completely balanced diet from plants only. Again, exhibit A; Me. I haven’t eaten an animal product for 3 years and as I said all bloods are fine.

Again, I agree we’re omnivorous you don’t need to keep reeling off evolutionary facts. I know. I also know that it’s possible to be completely healthy on only plants, it’s also possible to be sick as fuck from eating animals.

So with that in mind, ITS AN ETHICAL QUESTION, not a scientific one. Making your 0.75xundergrad biology degree irrelevant here.

If you write a list of the pros and cons to eating animals, you’ll find that pretty much the only thing you’ll have in the pros column is taste. In the cons column you’ll find a long list of ethical, environmental and health reasons to avoid animal products. But people ignore all of these facts in favour if the one measly pro: taste.

Everyone knows we're omnivores. You didn't need to trouble yourself by copying down 'Evolution for dummies' into your post. So what? Omnivores can easily and healthily survive on plants only. Exhibit A: the fact that i'm alive and healthy. As are thousands of other vegans. It's a moral question not a scientific one. We can survive on plants so it's more ethical to not kill anything when we don't need to.

I need to take a megaphone to the closest mountain top so I can scream this from the skies, in hope that this argument finally dies.

Difference in opinion DOES NOT warrant mutual respect. 

Your opinion defends everything that I stand against. 

Your opinion encourages the continuance of an institutionalized oppression that has an annual body count of 150 billion strong.

Your opinion takes the lives of loving, feeling, thinking sentient beings and reduces them to fucking nothing. Then you strip them of their victimhood by insisting this is just about what you put in your mouth.

Your opinion silences the screams of suffering bellowed out by those affected by it. So confident that nothing you are doing is wrong that you have the audacity to come to me and try to silence my words on behalf of them?

I actually can’t believe this is me for one, I can’t believe I was this thoughtless and awful as a person and that I said something so violent and hateful towards the undeserving. 

I’m happily Vegan now, educated and thriving in the lifestyle.

I would probably start a fight with this iteration of myself, like seriously I’d deck myself if I could, because this me would deserve it.

This person was unbelievably uneducated, and had a very limited realm of experience and understanding into the subject, and I’m honestly not surprised I had this mentality back then because I basically fucking lived off ground beef and potatoes at this point. 

This person often felt very insecure when exposed to “Vegan Opinions”. In fact the reason I made this post was because someone had posted something informational and it made me upset because it challenged my ethics and contrasted them against something as personal as my diet, so the only logical reaction would to say something disgustingly offensive and malicious as a response - A mentality I absolutely have no empathy for anymore and deplore today and am subject to/argue against on a weekly basis. Past me even tagged this as “#vegan” and “#social justice” like what kind of an ASSHOLE??? 

I think most importantly though, this exemplifies hope for the cause; to know that I was able to come from an embarrassing, ignorant, and violent stance against the issue to being an active supporter of animal rights and choosing not to consume animal products in the name of animal welfare and unity is exceptionally comforting to me (even though acknowledging I had the capacity for this is unsettling). So while I may not be a typical case, and obviously not everyone like this is going to mature, educate and enlighten themselves enough to hold themselves accountable and make the difference, I certainly don’t think I’m the first to have this experience, and I absolutely believe I won’t be the last. I’m proud to be an example of how repeated exposure, education, and gained empathy toward the issue, as well as the efforts of those in the community can make meaningful changes for 1 person that affect hundreds of thousands of lives.