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Honestly will cry if my prediction of Jon, arya, daenerys mating and/or being the three heads of the dragon comes true . Will also cry if I see Arya and Jon’s princes in a time leap
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The case for Arya becoming a queen in her endgame
Foreshadowing 1
“You,” Ned said, kissing her lightly on the brow, “will marry a king and rule his castle, and your sons will be knights and princes and lords and, yes, perhaps even a High Septon.”
Ned would never expect her to marry Joffrey or Robert Baratheon. So why is he saying this? Unless it is Grrm speaking through Ned’s mouth and possibly giving a hint about her future?
While some people claim that the words were meant for Sansa because Arya replies “No that’s Sansa”, I think it is simply a case of misdirection which George often uses in his foreshadowing. For instance-
“King,” croaked the raven. The bird flapped across the solar to land on Mormont’s shoulder. “King,” it said again, strutting back and forth.
“He likes that word,” Jon said, smiling.
“An easy word to say. An easy word to like.”
“King,” the bird said again.
“I think he means for you to have a crown, my lord.” [Jon said.]
Jon just like Arya thinks that the particular word is not meant for him. But as we have seen in the show, it was indeed meant for him. So that line about marrying a king could also be meant for Arya.
Foreshadowing 2
“Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King’s Hand and a father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me.”
Father to queens not queen. Sansa is marrying Joffrey. But why queens? Unless Grrm wants to hint to us that Arya is going to become a queen?
Foreshadowing 3
The wolf symbolism. Ie Jon’s wolf’s name is Ghost and his spirit/ghost gets to spend time in it . In some way as a man returned from the dead, Jon himself is some kind of a ghost isnt he? Similarly Bran’s wolf dies at the end of summer in the show. Arya’s is named Nymeria who was a ruler of her people. Should that not be important?
Foreshadowing 4
And there is no gap anymore. “If a twelve-year old has to conquer the world, then so be it.” -GRRM when talking about abandoning the five year gap
There may be very few people who will be 12 in ADOS and Arya is among them. (Yeah I am down with Arya emulating her show idol Visenya as a conqueror ;) )
Foreshadowing 5
One argument people use to brush away the idea of Arya becoming a queen is that there is no such evidence in the show. I think they have given some sort of evidence. Watch this youtube conversation between Tywin and Arya.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7xQeOQ8_vs
Note how Arya is idolizing Visenya and knows that she had a sword called “dark sister” and claiming that Aegon conquered Westeros not by himself but due to his sister wives. Could this not foreshadow Arya being part of some sort of conquest in the side of Jon and end up becoming some sort of co-ruler (like Visenya) if not a queen? You may like this gifpost by the way :). Especially if you like me see parallels in Arya and Visenya.
http://arya-jon-tyrion.tumblr.com/post/152882222089/dreamofspring-the-dragon-has-three-heads
Foreshadowing 6
The other argument people give is that Grrm abandoned plans about Arya becoming queen after he wrote the Game of Thrones book. But there is this quote in “A Dance with Dragons”!
The girl smiled in a way that reminded Jon so much of his little sister that it almost broke his heart. The snowflakes were melting on her cheeks, but her hair was wrapped in a swirl of lace that Satin had found somewhere, and the snow had begun to collect there, giving her a frosty crown. Her cheeks were flushed and red, and her eyes sparkled.
Notice the connection of frosty crown with Arya. Could this not be a hint of Arya becoming a queen? With Alys as an Arya stand in.
Another similar one is here in “A Feast for Crows” !!!
The girl was too young and too plain to be Sansa Stark, but she was of the right age to be the younger sister, and even Lady Catelyn had said that Arya lacked her sister’s beauty. -Brienne thinking about Willow
but it was Willow shouting all the orders, as if she were a queen in her castle and the other children were no more than servants.
Brienne mistakes Willow for Arya in “A Feast for Crows” . And then she thinks of her as a queen!
Now the next bit is speculation but I think that Daniel Abraham is talking about the Arya -Ned dialog “You will marry a king and rule his castle….” when he says this
I’ve spoken to George a lot in the process. The biggest issues we have are continuity questions. There are things about this story that only he knows, and they aren’t all obvious. There was one scene I had to rework because there’s a particular line of dialog – and you wouldn’t know it to look at – that’s important in the last scene of “A Dream of Spring.”
He has had to rework the line. Maybe he considered a part of the line unimportant and changed it. Like in the show where the writers replaced “You will marry a king” with “You will marry a high lord”. There are few other lines which fit. They have to be dialogs , not just thoughts and something which he may have had to rework. So I think that line fits very well. For more details try this thread
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/136544-a-possible-answer-to-the-mystery-line-of-dialog-in-the-got-book-which-is-very-important-in-the-last-scene-of-ados/
As Daniel Abraham is talking about this line in 2011, there is a fat chance that Grrm has not abandoned the idea of Arya becoming a queen. The idea is further strengthened as Arya queen references have also been put by Grrm (using Willow and Alys) in AFFC and ADWD which are the most recent books :).
It is also interesting to note that the initial title for “A Dream of Spring”, book was “ A Time for Wolves” and Arya is the Stark who most strongly embraces her wolf identity.
Grrm has claimed that he would be keeping the same ending as 1991 (when he wrote the infamous outline about a Arya-Jon-Tyrion love triangle) in an IGN interview . The exact quote is here
As I write these last two books I’ll be moving towards the endings that I’ve known since 1991 but many of the fine details may be moved around and changed -Grrm
So maybe he will still make Arya a queen for Jon. But without the dark romance/passion and simply due to duty and familial love? Ony lord and Grrm knows :). You just need to browse my blog for Arya-Jon rulership combo theories and their hints ;) But to get a general idea try out this link http://arya-jon-tyrion.tumblr.com/post/132985969484/my-predicted-asoiaf-endgame-based-on-grrms-hints
In summary, I feel that she has a strong chance to be a ruler. There are some people who claim she will die. I don’t disagree. All men and women must die, but it can happen in a epilogue after she has ruled, no? When we get to see her children (who may be lords/princes or high septon or greenseer) and a matured Bran :)? I think there is a lot of irony involved if Arya ever gets that destiny especially after saying “No thats Sansa” . Somewhat similar to how an ugly duckling matures into a swan.
Reblogging because its foreshadowing portion of #canonaryastark week
@brnt0fferings Your ask is the following
thanks for answering! I agree with you but I can't help wondering about the wording; betrayal for love could be synonymous with jealousy which would fit Tyrion but I wonder about it maybe being Jon because I keep going back to the reason the nights watch ended up killing him. They were pissed about the wildings and his over all rule but it wasn't until he made to leave to rescue "arya" from Ramsey that he got killed. That's why I'm on the fence. I wonder if he had to choose between Denarys and Arya again if he wouldn't be the one to betray her for literal love. Not jealousy or because she doesn't love him back like Tyrion. But because his love of Arya, to protect or save her etc would be stronger than whatever he has with Denarys...of course he could also betray her because he's dumb and falls into a trap of betrayal thinking he is saving her.
You may have noticed by perusing through my blog that I never include Arya and Dany as rivals :).
There are reasons for that.
"Off in the distance, a wolf howled. The sound made her feel sad and lonely, but no less hungry." - Dany POV
Its queer that the howl of a wolf makes her feel lonely rather than scared unlike say Tyrion.
"Something about the howling of a wolf took a man right out of his here and now and left him in a dark forest of the mind, running naked before the pack." -Tyrion POV
Now Tyrion in outline was designed to be enemies with Jon Snow , but it also proves that Grrm uses animals as methaphors for how relationship would go in the future. Even in the outline Jon snow and tyrion or arya and tyrion were certainly in good terms initially but later becomes a deadly rivalry with jon snow due to his love of arya.
Similarly note how arya thinks about dragon skulls.
“This time the monsters did not frighten her. They seemed almost old friends. Arya held the candle over her head. With each step she took, the shadows moved against the walls, as if they were turning to watch her pass. “Dragons,” she whispered. She slid Needle out from under her cloak. The slender blade seemed very small and the dragons very big, yet somehow Arya felt better with steel in her hand. “
Similarly
"Then Ghost emerged from between the two trees, with Val beside him. They look as though they belong together...It had been a long while since Jon Snow had seen a sight so lovely."
"The light of the half-moon turned Val's honey-blond hair a pale silver and left her cheeks as white as snow."
Silver hair is obviously associated with Targs and Dany.
So from the animal symbolism, I predict that these wolves and dragons will cuddle love and mate lol. (I personally believe that Grrm always planned Jon and Dany to mate even in the outline when jon was in love with arya. Ie I suspect that he was planning the three heads of dragon thing that early with jon arya and dany as the heads of the dragon only tyrion was exchanged from arya to dany)
Hi! I just found you're blog and I'm wondering what your thoughts are on Denarys' prophesy, more specifically the part where she will be betrayed by love & how that relates to Tyrion & Jon. Tyrion is the obvious choice for obvious reasons but GRRM rarely does the obvious so I'm skeptical if it will come from him. If you've already answered this sorry, can you direct me to that post? Please & thank you! 😊
Hi. Thanks for your ask.
Three treasons- once for blood, once for gold , once for love. I assume we are talking abt this prophesy.
There is another prophesy. From Quaithe.
“No. Hear me, Daenerys Targaryen. The glass candles are burning. Soon comes the pale mare and after her the others.Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin, the sun’s son and the mummer’s dragon. Trust none of them. Remember the Undying. Beware the perfumed seneschal”.
Quentyn Martell or the sun’s son (sunspear/dorne martell assosiated with sun), seemed pretty innocent until he tried to nick a dragon and got burnt. Very few Krakens who are trustworthy (euron and victarion are certainly not). Mummers dragon is not trustworthy for obvious reasons .
You would note lion is also mentioned. I think the lion being talked about is Tyrion because the language is “soon comes the ….” . Ie whoever is the lion is coming to Dany and not Dany going to them. Though Jaime and Cersei are also lions they are not travelling towards Dany unlike Tyrion.
Another prophesy of note is by moquorro to Tyrion.
“Dragons old and young, true and false, bright and dark. And you. A small man with a big shadow, snarling in the midst of it all.”
This seems to indicate that Tyrion is not really in any particular side but is in the thick of all the action of the dragons and possibly playing for himself.
In contrast the associations to Jon in the visions dany sees in the house of undying is positive, ie a blue rose in the wall filling the air with sweetness. She also sees a blue rose when bride of fire is mentioned.
Now it is possible that all the prophesies are red herrings in which case, yes Jon may be the traitor and Tyrion the loyal guy. But if the prophesies are true, then Tyrion is way more likely than Jon to betray Dany.
It was tough not to fall in love with Rhaegar and its tough not to fall in love with Dany. So I expect both Tyrion and Jon to fall in love or at the very least get infatuated. I dont blame them because Dany is created in a way that any sane male will fall for her.
Tyrion is not the type to betray for gold or blood, that much we know from his character. Same with Jon. Even he wont betray Dany for gold or blood. Jorah is another candidate of course for the betrayal for love, while Daario can betray for gold too.
But considering the positive connotations Jon has in prophesy for Dany, including bits about slayer of lies (ie danys role in proving the true heritage of jon and fake heritage of fake aegon), blue rose appearing in bride of fire thing and blue rose filling air with sweetness in wall and negative connotations Tyrion has relatively, its tough not to go with Tyrion , considering that he is a main character who has risen to become her hand. ( I dont think these prophesies are red herrings)
Now there is a difference between show Tyrion and book Tyrion and D and D love to shorten stuff without paying attention to how much it makes sense , so I dont know how it will all play out in the show, but given the leaks, Tyrion is the only person who is shown noticing boatsex , I think it means something. Why have anyone notice at all? Similarly there is another alleged leak where Cersei says that Dany is Tyrion’s type, ie a foreign whore etc and Tyrion defends Dany. But I am worried about how they will portray it, as a betrayal is totally in character for book Tyrion, but out of character for show Tyrion.
@pearl-of-lys replied to your post “So, Dany is ‘The Stallion Who Mounts the World’ and ‘The Prince That…”
Rhaegar’s insistence on the “three heads” confuses me still. He’s the only one stuck on it, there’s no parallel in the other prophecies, and real dragons have one head. The “three heads” is symbolic of Aegon, Visenya, and Rhaenys, but there’s no reason to think they’re a part of these prophecies (right?). Three prophecies kinda supports the “three heads”, but that’s a stretch. For Rhaegar. (Reader-wise, I get it’s more indicative). Do we know of any reason for Rhaegar to insist on “three heads”?
Clarification: I just remembered Dany and co. believe in the “three heads” too, but that’s after the vision with Rhaegar (her introduction to the prophecy) AND her three dragons have hatched (which might’ve been a lucky coincidence). I’m just curious - what are the chances this is all a wild goose chase? That the “three heads” was an unjustified and wrong assumption by Rhaegar, throwing Dany and the readers off?
Rhaegar is not the only one to talk about the three heads of the dragon. Maester Aemon is another, and he specifically connects that concept to the Prince that was Promised. He also discussed the PTWP with Rhaegar.
“No one ever looked for a girl,” he said. “It was a prince that was promised, not a princess. Rhaegar, I thought… the smoke was from the fire that devoured Summerhall on the day of his birth, the salt from the tears shed for those who died. He shared my belief when he was young, but later he became persuaded that it was his own son who fulfilled the prophecy, for a comet had been seen above King’s Landing on the night Aegon was conceived, and Rhaegar was certain the bleeding star had to be a comet. What fools we were, who thought ourselves so wise! The error crept in from the translation. Dragons are neither male nor female, Barth saw the truth of that, but now one and now the other, as changeable as flame. The language misled us all for a thousand years. Daenerys is the one, born amidst salt and smoke. The dragons prove it.” Just talking of her seemed to make him stronger. “I must go to her. I must. Would that I was even ten years younger.”
[…] “Daenerys is our hope. Tell them that, at the Citadel. Make them listen. They must send her a maester. Daenerys must be counseled, taught, protected. For all these years I’ve lingered, waiting, watching, and now that the day has dawned I am too old.”
[…] He asked Sam to read for him from a book by Septon Barth, whose writings had been burned during the reign of Baelor the Blessed. Once he woke up weeping. “The dragon must have three heads,” he wailed, “but I am too old and frail to be one of them. I should be with her, showing her the way, but my body has betrayed me.”
–AFFC, Samwell IV
It’s no wild good chase. Somewhere in the prophecy of the Prince that was Promised – perhaps the same prophecy that King Aerys I read, the one that said the dragons would return, perhaps one of Daenys the Dreamer’s prophecies – is a line that says something like “the dragon must have three heads”. Maester Aemon knew about it, Rhaegar knew about it, and because of her visions in the House of the Undying, so does Dany.
Dany doesn’t know what “the dragon has three heads” means, though, and as limited perspective readers, neither do we yet. But we can guess. She thinks it may mean that she can take two husbands – as suggested by Jorah Mormont – because Aegon the Conqueror married both his sisters and their sigil was a three-headed dragon. It may not necessarily mean that, but it’s probable that that’s what Rhaegar believed too. (Thus another daughter was needed for his son Aegon to marry along with Rhaenys.) But it may be less about marriage and more about partnership – or it may just mean that two others will be able to ride her dragons, and be allies with her in the War for the Dawn. We’ll get more information about this prophecy as time goes on – Sam’s adventures in the Citadel should be a great source of info, for one.
But yes, there is a reason to think that the Conquest trio of Aegon, Visenya, and Rhaenys were connected to this prophecy. TWOIAF is not much help here, because (in canon) it was written by a skeptic maester who doesn’t believe in prophecies and only looks at mundane reasons for things. (I mean, Maester Yandel seriously included a paragraph in TWOIAF claiming that the Others were just a tribe of wildlings made monstrous through Stark propaganda. lol no, Yandel.) But he did include the occasional tantalizing glimpse at what was really going on:
Septon Barth’s claim that the Valyrians came to Westeros because their priests prophesied that the Doom of Man would come out of the land beyond the narrow sea can safely be dismissed as nonsense, as can many of Barth’s queerer beliefs and suppositions. –TWOIAF
It had long been the custom amongst the dragonlords of Valyria to wed brother to sister, to keep the bloodlines pure, but Aegon took both his sisters to bride. By tradition, he was expected to wed only his older sister, Visenya; the inclusion of Rhaenys as a second wife was unusual though not without precedent. –TWOIAF
Heraldic banners had long been a tradition amongst the lords of Westeros, but such had never been used by the dragonlords of old Valyria. When Aegon’s knights unfurled his great silken battle standard, with a red three-headed dragon breathing fire upon a black field, the lords took it for a sign that he was now truly one of them, a worthy high king for Westeros. –TWOIAF
I think Aegon decided to conquer Westeros because he believed the Doom of Man – the return of the Others and the War for the Dawn – was coming, per the prophecy of his ancestress Daenys. He may have thought that he was the Prince that was Promised, or perhaps he believed the Prince would come from his line and he had to get Westeros ready for the war. But I think Aegon married both his sisters and took that specific sigil because “the dragon must have three heads”, because it was part of that prophecy. You can read more of this theory here, but always remember, Septon Barth was right.
I usually keep my reblogs to a minimum so as to maintain my blog as a pure area for endgame theories which basically include theories such as jon will be endgame king, arya, jon and dany are the three heads of the dragon etc etc. I do answer asks though. I have already written a piece on arya as a head of a dragon in the mould of visenya. This post may motivate me to expand on it further.

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Dude just let people do gifs of things they like. The chess gif was of HOUSE STARK so there's no reason for dany to be there. As for bran being a rook, the person who created it just wanted to find the position of chess piece that matched him the most. As for arya, she's a warrior so the knight position suits her the best. It wasnt done to downplay her. Sansa is the queen piece because of her political involvment in the north.
I am not stopping anyone from making gifs the way they want .
I am giving my opinion on it. Dont I even have that right?
My issue was not even that sansa was queen or bran was rook or arya was knight. It was the wording! Ie Bran as rook would serve king and queen. Like Bran serving Jon and Sansa???? He is a a equal. You could simply use proper wording like a rook who is the watcher of threats to realm. Is that much effort such a big deal????? Or do you need to just copy paste wording from other gifs and make stuff ( which is what the maker of the stuff told me).
Because if actual effort is put into wording , more people will like it and reblog it. Poor choice of wording makes the difference between actual highly rated gifs and gifs which are attacked by people. It also leads to misinterpretation of gifs’ intention.
So basically that Bran thing made me look at the Arya as knight in a different light. Ie to show she is less important than her sister. Something , I would not have thought if the Bran as rook would have been worded properly!!!
I again appreciate the effort she put into it, but obviously she could be more sensitive abt the wording if she did not want negative feedback.
#i love arya but people really rub over bran as if he is dirt tbh, so i had to react
DUDE!!! The gif about Bran being the rook and Arya being the knight completely bothered me. Like... I get people want their ship to be canon and whatnot, but this show is really just... the way the show is portraying Bran, Arya, and even Sansa is bothersome. I mean, I know I have some blatent favortism towards Arya, but if you're telling a story from multiple POVs, you have to be a bit more neutral and authentic to the characters. That's my beef with D&D. Lol, had to vent, sorry
Hey!! I am so sorry for the delayed reply as I was busy , but also some keys of my keyboard did not work, which made writing replies a real chore.
I am so disappointed that they are not doing 10 proper seasons rather than 8 fast paced ones. I think that is part of the reason they are losing authenticity. However that still does not explain Jon’s brain dead response to arya being dead!!! Completely unlike the books. He just had to show facial emotions like emilia was doing so well in that episode.
I know most of the fandom blames d and d for that, but I am not sure they are the ones to blame. I saw this script for episode 5.
http://www.desinerd.co.in/game-of-thrones-season-7-episode-5-leak-hbo-hacked/#
In this there is no raven to jon snow mentioning Arya (just the wight thing), which is weird but much more preferable to Jon’s reaction on hearing about Arya’s arrival. There is also some nice dany jon conversation.
Overall I found the written script palatable, at least much more than the episode. So i think directors deserve as much if not more blame for this as they are probably the ones making changes to the written script provided to them.
hmm. Why do all jonsa concepts have to usurp bran arya or danys’s role. Like you can praise jon sansa importance but still avoid downplaying the rest. but it always seems to be downplaying :/ Like just now I saw a gif where bran is just a rook serving jon and sansa who are king and queen lol. and arya is just a fighter knight. If its humor then its fine, but if not, well you are wrong, very wrong
Hi! I want more Jon/Arya blogs to follow, because reasons and I'm a book nerd and Jonrya is a thing in the books. Any suggestions?
@bringhersafetome @sparklingdreamcollector @buttercuparry @amster-l @justwinginoverthings @aryajon @arya-jon-tyrion @aryaxjon @lindsaymaknae @lyannasnow @landsmanwashere @okunikuokulo @ourmrsreynolds…I probably have more in my mutuals…Guys, feel free to add more suggestions to the list (my memory sucks).
i guess @jonryas @ashotofjac @asprettyasyourown @m00nysblog @meowskiiiiiii , @twhiddlegirl @attew-me @utenawashere should also be included. Even @maisiestyle is a supporter though her blog is meant to be mainly arya related.
I myself believe in the threesome pairing of jon dany and arya. They are my three heads of the dragon and a repeat of the pairing of aegon rhaenys and visenya. So if you see support for jon dany in here, it does not run counter to jon arya!!!
Last but not the least thanks a lot @laboratorioautoral for the rec . Love reading your fics and posts, though you obviously know it :0 ;)
Tyrion is just standing outside the door watching while boatsex is happening. Boatsex and rhaegar /lyanna wedding happen in parallel through intercutting.
Also before the boatsex scene Cersei teases Tyrion abt Dany. Says he always had a prefence for foreign whores and that Dany is his type just like Shaea.. Tyrion does not disagree, but defends dany and praises her.
Either Tyrion is just like Ronald weasley who does this by habit or my theory abt his jealousy to jon /dany love is true. Like why else the showrunners have tyrion of all people watch live sex?

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Validation on my theory abt Tyrion not being a head of a dragon and his impending betrayal (probably) but I am actually posting because heck Arya could be a head of a dragon!!!
Yeah, the arya stan within me just could not stop visualizing the glorious Dany, Arya and Jon meeting. I shall explain how this is related :)
I understand that Frikidoctor leaks are not 100% correct and my claim of validation may therefore not be true. But do read this where frikidoctor ‘s video for episode 6 is translated.
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/6pktkb/frikidoctors_season_7_episode_6_review_full/
I am not posting the full translation for brevity’s sake.
But
Another scene that takes place sometime in the show is in Dragonstone (before Dany receives a plead of help from Jon via Gendry) Dany is seen being nervous for Jon and Jorah but mostly Jon. Tyrion then witnesses how much Dany starts to care about Jon and is uninterested in anything but news of Jon, which is when the raven arrives from the north asking for help to which she goes just to help Jon (and Jorah too) which Tyrion chases her telling her she can’t because if she does and then dies everything that they have been trying to accomplish will be for nothing, but Dany is a fookin dragon and jumps on Drogon and leaves with the other 2 following her http://bit.ly/2tXZMwo . (this all happens as events in the north happen)
See the bolded portion. A head of a dragon can never be like this. Further he does not seem pleased at Dany’s love for Jon (why would a head of dragaon be bothered by two heads liking each other. heads are supposed to love each other) , another In addition as viserion is dead there are not three dragons to ride and tyrion being a dragon rider was quoted as a reason why he would be a head of a dragon.
Moreover Quaithe’s prophesy also seems to hint that Tyrion is not someone to be trusted.
No. Hear me, Daenerys Targaryen. The glass candles are burning. Soon comes the pale mare, and after her the others. Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin, the sun’s son and the mummer’s dragon. Trust none of them. Remember the Undying. Beware the perfumed seneschal.“
The Lion is Tyrion and the mummer is Varys. So I expect them to betray dany very soon. Tyrion ‘s whole motivation for serving Dany was that he unconsiously loved her and admired her. But would he able to do that when all Dany has on her mind is Jon and not Tyrion’s self percieved genius schemes.
I have always put up Arya’ name as a head of a dragon, because she has this soul mate type connection to jon which dany also seems to have
See these two posts
http://arya-jon-tyrion.tumblr.com/post/152426102574/the-dragon-has-three-heads-and-the-third-head
http://arya-jon-tyrion.tumblr.com/post/152882222089/dreamofspring-the-dragon-has-three-heads
If its not Arya , Bran is a big possiblity due to his importance in fighting nights king, though he lacks the soulmate connection. Or the heads of dragon may not be all humans.
Now I accept that my conclusions is premature for the following reasons
1) Frikidoctor’s info may be false.
2) This is ultimately Tyrion’s initial reaction. And overall he has been positive to jon’s thoughts abt whitewalkes. So it may be one off. And if he does not like dany thinking about jon rather than his genius ideas, maybe he will change and remain loyal, and be perfectly accepting of dany’s love of jon (though judging from quathe’s prophesy, I think he will betray dany due to his jealousy towards jon and being friendzoned and also because dany does not listen to him much anymore and rather tries to be a dragon and follows her own instincts. The tarly burning really shook him (and probably varys) and reminded him of aerys and her going off to rescue jon snow against his advice does not really help )
But I hope Arya is the head of the dragon because then I can understand why the show did not make them meet. Like if Arya, Jon and Dany are heads of the dragon (it may be false) and are soulmates, then it does make sense that they meet together and not seperately. (Though please dont count our wolf prince Bran out as a head of a dragon. He remains a possiblity. Its just that I am a bit biased towards Jon and Arya ;))
Tyrion , Dany and the possiblity of Tyrion being king
So I was just watching this inside the game of thrones video for season 7 ep 1 featuring Peter Dinklage and Emilia <3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYgPcLk4VSw
Around minute 1:16 Peter mentions how Dany is different from the people he has served in that she is not a family member, but a woman. He warns that it will create complications in their relationship.
We do not know what these complications will be , but i am making some guesses of their future plot direction.
Cersei has got the iron throne. I think the showrunners were winking at the audience when she and jaime discussed the prospect of creating a lannister dynasty on the iron throne. Mostly , I think cersei will die without another child and jaime would be out there fighting white walkers /dying in brienne’s arms rather than be interested in kingship. So who could continue the lannister dynasty?
Tyrion is certainly a candidate. It would be weird if a character of his political accumen and overall plot importance does not make it to the iron throne.
And these complications in dany and tyrion’s relationship that Dinklage is mentioning could be the cause.
Tyrion may not know now, but he is extremely close to the iron throne by right of succesion in lannister line. And I find it surprising that the showrunners are not driving it home to him every now and then the prospect that he himself could be king . Unless they are planning a surprise in season 8 where a dwarf would climb the iron throne and fulfill kit harrington’s desire.
Kit in a recent interview when asked who should sit on the the iron throne mentioned Tyrion’s name. His reasoning was that Tyion as king would surprise the audience, more than Jon or Dany.Further he found the idea of a dwarf climbing the iron throne comical .
So I expect Tyrion to have a brief rule before the Starks and esecially Jon end up as the final rulers
If this does remind you of the plot of the oringnal outline published around 1991 , I dont blame you ;).
The case for Arya becoming a queen in her endgame
Foreshadowing 1
“You,” Ned said, kissing her lightly on the brow, “will marry a king and rule his castle, and your sons will be knights and princes and lords and, yes, perhaps even a High Septon.”
Ned would never expect her to marry Joffrey or Robert Baratheon. So why is he saying this? Unless it is Grrm speaking through Ned’s mouth and possibly giving a hint about her future?
While some people claim that the words were meant for Sansa because Arya replies “No that’s Sansa”, I think it is simply a case of misdirection which George often uses in his foreshadowing. For instance-
“King,” croaked the raven. The bird flapped across the solar to land on Mormont’s shoulder. “King,” it said again, strutting back and forth.
“He likes that word,” Jon said, smiling.
“An easy word to say. An easy word to like.”
“King,” the bird said again.
“I think he means for you to have a crown, my lord.” [Jon said.]
Jon just like Arya thinks that the particular word is not meant for him. But as we have seen in the show, it was indeed meant for him. So that line about marrying a king could also be meant for Arya.
Foreshadowing 2
“Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King’s Hand and a father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me.”
Father to queens not queen. Sansa is marrying Joffrey. But why queens? Unless Grrm wants to hint to us that Arya is going to become a queen?
Foreshadowing 3
The wolf symbolism. Ie Jon’s wolf’s name is Ghost and his spirit/ghost gets to spend time in it . In some way as a man returned from the dead, Jon himself is some kind of a ghost isnt he? Similarly Bran’s wolf dies at the end of summer in the show. Arya’s is named Nymeria who was a ruler of her people. Should that not be important?
Foreshadowing 4
And there is no gap anymore. “If a twelve-year old has to conquer the world, then so be it.” -GRRM when talking about abandoning the five year gap
There may be very few people who will be 12 in ADOS and Arya is among them. (Yeah I am down with Arya emulating her show idol Visenya as a conqueror ;) )
Foreshadowing 5
One argument people use to brush away the idea of Arya becoming a queen is that there is no such evidence in the show. I think they have given some sort of evidence. Watch this youtube conversation between Tywin and Arya.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7xQeOQ8_vs
Note how Arya is idolizing Visenya and knows that she had a sword called “dark sister” and claiming that Aegon conquered Westeros not by himself but due to his sister wives. Could this not foreshadow Arya being part of some sort of conquest in the side of Jon and end up becoming some sort of co-ruler (like Visenya) if not a queen? You may like this gifpost by the way :). Especially if you like me see parallels in Arya and Visenya.
http://arya-jon-tyrion.tumblr.com/post/152882222089/dreamofspring-the-dragon-has-three-heads
Foreshadowing 6
The other argument people give is that Grrm abandoned plans about Arya becoming queen after he wrote the Game of Thrones book. But there is this quote in “A Dance with Dragons”!
The girl smiled in a way that reminded Jon so much of his little sister that it almost broke his heart. The snowflakes were melting on her cheeks, but her hair was wrapped in a swirl of lace that Satin had found somewhere, and the snow had begun to collect there, giving her a frosty crown. Her cheeks were flushed and red, and her eyes sparkled.
Notice the connection of frosty crown with Arya. Could this not be a hint of Arya becoming a queen? With Alys as an Arya stand in.
Another similar one is here in “A Feast for Crows” !!!
The girl was too young and too plain to be Sansa Stark, but she was of the right age to be the younger sister, and even Lady Catelyn had said that Arya lacked her sister's beauty. -Brienne thinking about Willow
but it was Willow shouting all the orders, as if she were a queen in her castle and the other children were no more than servants.
Brienne mistakes Willow for Arya in “A Feast for Crows” . And then she thinks of her as a queen!
Now the next bit is speculation but I think that Daniel Abraham is talking about the Arya -Ned dialog “You will marry a king and rule his castle....” when he says this
I’ve spoken to George a lot in the process. The biggest issues we have are continuity questions. There are things about this story that only he knows, and they aren’t all obvious. There was one scene I had to rework because there’s a particular line of dialog – and you wouldn’t know it to look at – that’s important in the last scene of “A Dream of Spring.”
He has had to rework the line. Maybe he considered a part of the line unimportant and changed it. Like in the show where the writers replaced “You will marry a king” with “You will marry a high lord”. There are few other lines which fit. They have to be dialogs , not just thoughts and something which he may have had to rework. So I think that line fits very well. For more details try this thread
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/136544-a-possible-answer-to-the-mystery-line-of-dialog-in-the-got-book-which-is-very-important-in-the-last-scene-of-ados/
As Daniel Abraham is talking about this line in 2011, there is a fat chance that Grrm has not abandoned the idea of Arya becoming a queen. The idea is further strengthened as Arya queen references have also been put by Grrm (using Willow and Alys) in AFFC and ADWD which are the most recent books :).
It is also interesting to note that the initial title for “A Dream of Spring”, book was “ A Time for Wolves” and Arya is the Stark who most strongly embraces her wolf identity.
Grrm has claimed that he would be keeping the same ending as 1991 (when he wrote the infamous outline about a Arya-Jon-Tyrion love triangle) in an IGN interview . The exact quote is here
As I write these last two books I’ll be moving towards the endings that I’ve known since 1991 but many of the fine details may be moved around and changed -Grrm
So maybe he will still make Arya a queen for Jon. But without the dark romance/passion and simply due to duty and familial love? Ony lord and Grrm knows :). You just need to browse my blog for Arya-Jon rulership combo theories and their hints ;) But to get a general idea try out this link http://arya-jon-tyrion.tumblr.com/post/132985969484/my-predicted-asoiaf-endgame-based-on-grrms-hints
In summary, I feel that she has a strong chance to be a ruler. There are some people who claim she will die. I don’t disagree. All men and women must die, but it can happen in a epilogue after she has ruled, no? When we get to see her children (who may be lords/princes or high septon or greenseer) and a matured Bran :)? I think there is a lot of irony involved if Arya ever gets that destiny especially after saying “No thats Sansa” . Somewhat similar to how an ugly duckling matures into a swan.
The dragon has three heads. (insp)
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Thanks @dreamofspring . Gives me the chills <3333
As you guys may have noticed, the last two letters and exactly the last two letters of all three names match
As in Jon-Aegon
Arya-Visenya
Daenerys- Rhaenys
I have never read the Asiof books & I know my question sounds dumb especially this far in the story but in the first book after Jon and Tyrion's talk about dwarfs and bastards, Jon notes how the light casts Tyrion's shadow. He comment on it that it is 'as tall as the king's'. Curious isn't it?
Hi!
You are my first non anon ask yet . So thanks a lot :) And this is a really nice topic/ask!
Grrm is really into shadows as symbols of power.
“Every man who walks the earth casts a shadow on the world. Some are thin and weak, others long and dark. You should look behind you, Lord Snow. The moon has kissed you and etched your shadow upon the ice twenty feet tall.” -Jon ADWD (Mellisandre is speaking these lines)
Similarly Moquorro( a red priest in the books) says this to Tyrion
“Dragons old and young, true and false, bright and dark. And you. A small man with a big shadow, snarling in the midst of all.” -Tyrion ADWD
Going back to the quote you are talking about :)
When he opened the door, the light from within threw his shadow clear across the yard, and for just a moment Tyrion Lannister stood tall as a king
What I think this means is that Tyrion will come very close to becoming king or actually become king for a short while/just a moment . How and why that may happen, I am not sure. But if Cersei can become queen, then Tyrion can become king as her brother . Or he may do it without that also once he gets a dragon.
At this point I would recommend you to read these posts.
http://arya-jon-tyrion.tumblr.com/post/132985969484/my-predicted-asoiaf-endgame-based-on-grrms-hints
http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php?/topic/136625-the-case-for-tyrion-as-a-anti-villain-and-a-discussion-on-how-his-future-arc-could-go/
I know Tyrion as an antivillain and an independent contender for the throne may not make sense if one goes by his show character. Which is very different from the books .
But even the show there is that line by Dany, where she mentions she is shocked at the way she has turned away Daario who is a lover. And then Tyrion very fervently replies that “ Daario wont be the last to love you” (I think Tyrion will fall in a one sided love with Dany and ultimately be friend-zoned or turned away which he wont take very well. There is also his dangling plot with Sansa which could produce some reaction. )What I mean is that if the showrunners want to make Tyrion a surprise independent contender to the thrones they can.

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A Case for Jaime not being the Valonqar
One of the things I wanted to explore with Jaime, and with so many of the characters, is the whole issue of redemption. When can we be redeemed? Is redemption even possible? I don’t have an answer… If you’re a Nazi war criminal and then spend the next 40 years doing good deeds and feeding the hungry, does that make up for being a concentration-camp guard? I don’t know the answer, but these are questions worth thinking about. I want there to be a possibility of redemption for us, because we all do terrible things. We should be able to be forgiven. Because if there is no possibility of redemption, what’s the answer then? -Grrm Rolling Stone Interview Link
The above quote is very important to understand Grrm’s motive behind Jaime as a character. What he is trying to do with Jaime? What is his future path?
There are some textual evidences that do make it seem that Jaime would be the Valonqar. The most powerful of them being-
Last night he dreamed he’d found her fucking Moon Boy. He’d killed the fool and smashed his sister’s teeth to splinters with his golden hand, just as Gregor Clegane had done to poor Pia. In his dreams Jaime always had two hands; one was made of gold, but it worked just like the other.
Jaime can also arguably be called little brother (Valyrian meaning for Valonqar) depending on whether you believe younger brother (by some minutes or seconds) is equivalent to little brother.
But whenever I try to wrap my head around this theory, my mind goes back to the above mentioned Grrm quote on Jaime’s redemption arc.
Following are some things to consider
1) Will it allow him to continue on his redemption arc?
Yes, Jaime being the Valonqar will give some dramatic irony. But it could also put into jeopardy Jaime’s redemption arc by killing a sister (his kin) who brothers and knights are supposed to defend . Instead of giving her a quick death by the sword, prolonging it by strangling and making her suffer. He has already pushed Bran. Killed Aerys from the back. Will Jaime be able to continue living after killing Cersei? How will he be able to live? Because to have some sort of redemption arc he has to live. If he cant live what redemption can he have?
2) Will he able to pursue any kind of relationship with Brienne after killing Cersei?
Clearly Grrm is trying to set up something with Jaime and Brienne. The showrunners seem to be doing the same too, with the recent meeting between Jaime and Brienne at the riverlands. But after killing Cersei, will he have it in him to pursue other goals with Brienne ? Like wont he be completely destroyed? What about the honor that Brienne is trying to imbibe him with? Where is honor in killing his unarmed sister? Whats the point of naming his horse honor? (The wildfire thing is already done in the show. So what would he be trying to prevent? And is killing the only way to prevent it?)
3) Are there other people who could be Valonqar?
Yes. Tyrion for instance.
And the only reward I ask is I might be allowed to rape and kill my sister - Tyrion ADWD
So why not him? Tyrion has already strangled Shae. Wont be a stretch to imagine him strangling Cersei and making her suffer. It makes it easier for Jaime to continue his redemption arc. Share moments with Brienne. Jaime had mentioned in the TV show his desire to die in the arms of a woman he loves. So why not Brienne instead of Cersei? In the battlefield rather than suicide?
Tyrion seems an obvious choice to be the valonqar which is why most theorists don’t think it is him. I feel that if Grrm goes by this “obvious” choice he would be teaching us something important about prophesy.
If Cersei had not been so mean to Tyrion, would Tyrion have ever become the Valonqar. What if Cersei had never heard the prophesy and had not been desperate to out him? To imprison him? To kill him? Would Tyrion stil be the Valonqar.
Those who have read Harry Potter may understand this irony. Why was Harry Potter the chosen one and not Nevile Longbottom? They both had the same signs. What made the difference was that Voldemort got scared of Harry and killed off his parents. If Voldemort had not killed off Harry’s parents would Harry have been so desperate to kill Voldemort? Would Harry Potter have got that Horcrux and the tools to kill Voldemort and become the chosen one?
Both Cersei and Voldemort are similar in that respect. They both chose to trust the prophesy, Because of their trust in the prophesy they committed certain actions, ie Cersei mistrusted Tyrion and imprisoned him. Voldemort tried to kill Harry. And it is those very actions that ensure the fulfillment of the prophesy. If Tyrion had not been imprisoned would he still have wanted to kill Cersei?
So in summary what I am saying is that if Tyrion turns out to be the Valonqar, Grrm would be reinforcing something very important about prophesy. Trying to prevent it or trusting it may lead to the fulfillment of prophesy. This is a very common trope and has been used very effectively in Harry Potter, Final destination (2009) movie and I reckon he is using it here too
The dragon has three heads and the third head could be Arya
There are two men in the world who I can trust, if I can find them. I will not be alone then. We will be three against the world, like Aegon and his sisters.
Dany is expecting that it will go like inverse Aegon. She thinks she will get two very trustworthy men whom she will marry. Interestingly she does not seem to thing they must be Targaryens.
Could I love Daario? What would it mean, if I took him into my bed? Would that make him one of the heads of the dragon? Ser Jorah would be angry, she knew, but he was the one who’d said she had to take two husbands. Perhaps I should marry them both and be done with it.
She will get Jon. That is almost for sure.
A blue flower grew from a chink in a wall of ice, and filled the air with sweetness…mother of dragons…bride of fire…
The blue flower is clearly Jon. Her nephew and the closest thing to a classic hero if ever there is one in the books.Who is the third? Could it be Tyrion? Or Aegon? This is where it gets interesting.
No. Hear me, Daenerys Targaryen. The glass candles are burning. Soon comes the pale mare, and after her the others. Kraken and dark flame, lion and griffin, the sun’s son and the mummer’s dragon. Trust none of them. Remember the Undying. Beware the perfumed seneschal.“
The mummer’s dragon is Aegon and the lion is probably Tyrion.
On one hand we are talking about about finding “two men in the world who she can trust ” and the other hand she is being warned that two of them are not trustworthy. (Maybe the warning is false, but I am giving the warning the benefit of doubt so bear with me)
If you remove Tyrion and Aegon there are very few men left who have any Valyrian blood running in their veins and none of them are important enough to be main characters (which is something we can expect from a head of a dragon). Who is the third one who is trustworthy and will grow up to be a fellow conqueror?
Sam , Greyworm and Missandei are certainly trustworthy and probably there may be some more who fit Dany’s criterion of trustworthiness but at this stage we must be looking at main characters. If you are talking about the third head of the dragon he has to be the key player.
Consider this quote
The producers have full artistic authority and autonomy. They are in constant feedback with George. They know where the five absolute main characters's journey's should end." - Tom Wlaschiha (Jaqen H'ghar), May 27 2016
If we take this quote along with George’s quote in the outline we know where to look at. We can add Sansa Stark maybe but that is it.
The five key players are Tyrion Lannister, Daenerys Targaryen, and three of the children of Winterfell, Arya, Bran, and the bastard Jon Snow.
As Tyrion Lannister has already been ruled out .In case you are still not convinced maybe you can try out this post. (Please do not consider the show’s version of St Tyrion. They will probably set up the same thing as mentioned in the linked post but in a different way from Grrm)
The only three possible contenders are Bran, Arya and Sansa. And it does make sense in some ways.
Off in the distance, a wolf howled. The sound made her feel sad and lonely, but no less hungry.
Dany certainly has some connection to the wolves. Could it be Bran?
It is possible as he is certainly trustworthy and loyal. But if she considers marriage a necessity this becomes unlikely. As Bran cares for Meera Reed and is more like earth rather than fire which she prefers.
Which leaves Sansa and Arya. To guess who among these two it would be , I would like you to rewatch the Tywin-Arya converstation in youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7xQeOQ8_vs
You must note the fervor with which Arya says “Aegon and his sisters”. The way she idolizes Visenya and mentions her sword Dark Sister. Arya is Jon’s dark sister. She certainly is the type of person who would buy into Dany’s us against the world talk. She is very very loyal and trustworthy to her own pack and friends.
There is also this line from Grrm
And there is no gap anymore. “If a twelve-year old has to conquer the world, then so be it.” -GRRM
There are very few people who will be 12 by the end of ADOS and Arya is one of them.
There is a lot of hints to Arya marrying a king and some of them are in this post, but that is a different topic altogether. I have my doubts about what makes three heads of the dragon? Is it dragon riding? Is it marriage? Is it as Dany says being those two people she can trust and be completely united or be fellow conquerors like Visenya, Aegon and Rhaenys were.
The meaning that I am taking is that they must be soulmates and conquerors. Not necessarily marriage But these three soulmates who conquer the world. These three soulmates who are so united that they are not separate from the Dragon (who may be Jon or Dany). There are a lot of hints which prove Arya and Jon are soulmates (not necessarily romantic) for instance they say there lines together. They miss each other the most and consider each other the best means to prevent loneliness. This unity that Arya and Jon share may be shared by the three of them so much so that they are in effect one person. Three hearts that beat as one. The song of perfectly balanced ice and fire.
(If you are interested in Arya’s dragon connections try this link)
That Grrm said that he will keep the same ending as 1991 does give me hope