anonymous: How do you think hbn would have reacted if he found out that mr was a bbbf all along? Would he feel guilty for doing all that to one of his own people?
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anonymous: How do you think hbn would have reacted if he found out that mr was a bbbf all along? Would he feel guilty for doing all that to one of his own people?
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There are some really interesting parallels between the Jeremy-Noah situation and the Kevin-Jean situation. Like growing up in a awful controlling environment with someone, and they’re doing worse than you, but you can’t help them because you’re also struggling really badly and how can you help them if you’re barely keeping yourself afloat, and all the guilt that comes with that. I wonder if the similarities will ever be explored, because I kind of doubt Kevin and Jeremy would open up to each other like that, but it might be good for them. Maybe.
Kevnicky au where when kevin tells the group about Thea, Nicky snorts and loudly goes "Kevin cmon. No one falls for the 'my partner is super real and were super in love but they live a gazillion miles away' lie, come up with something more original." And everyone slowly turns to stare at him.
Neil on some “kevin and i talk about your intricate and endless daddy issues all the time”
kevin, who’s talked to Neil about Riko one (1) time
Jerejean's two dogs (I know Kevin fought hard for that bed)

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Neil being shocked Kevin is straight is still one of the funniest scenes in AFTG like yeah bitch me too
Honestly I feel sympathy for all of the Ravens, not just Jean and Kevin.
People act like every single one of them was inherently inherently evil (the aftg fandom seems to have a big problem with black and white thinking and I wonder if that’s bc Neil definitely had a lot of that going on in his pov) but they were all in a cult. Being indoctrinated to that extent is going to make you kind of a bad person. I think some of them were definitely worse coming in than others (Grayson), but by the end I’m sure they were all worse than when they got there.
Even Jean, who I think we all agree is a decent person, was doing some heinous shit for a while there. Like he does a lot of the things that other ravens are criticized for: victim blaming (all of his interactions with Andrew), physical violence, not stopping abuse from happening around him (not like he could have done anything about it, but my point is neither could any of the other young people in this cult), spewing Raven ideology, etc., but the difference is that Jean is now in a much more stable environment than the rest of the ravens, where he has the support to unlearn those things much more quickly than the others.
Also just because Jean was the only one getting waterboarded, doesn’t mean that the rest of them weren’t also being horrifically abused. Jean may have been Riko’s no. 1 target, but there were several abusive authority figures there, and I’m sure they all had their own favorite victims. Riko himself seems to have been Tetsuji’s main target. I’m sure there was a bunch of shit going on that Jean wasn’t privy to.
Honestly as far as Ravens go, I don’t Thea has done anything horrific. Like yeah maybe she was really drinking the koolaid, but she was going through a lot of abuse herself and also she didn’t know about the mafia shit, so her response to Jean makes sense. To acknowledge that what happened to Jean was terrible is to acknowledge that everything she went through
Even Zane, while I don’t think he’s a very good person by any means, I think people’s vitriol towards him is a bit extreme. Like I don’t really think he’s deserves to be killed. I actually think him and Jean have a very complex and interesting relationship that cannot be neatly fit into the victim-abuser box some people try to fit it into. Like he did a few incredibly horrible things to Jean, but he was also someone who protected Jean for years, someone that jean genuinely cared about, and it makes sense that jean would have complicated feelings regarding him. I also think the idea that him being murdered would somehow help Jean instead of just bringing him more grief while he’s trying to heal is a very strange and punitive mind set. Jean clearly doesn’t want him dead and I think they got their closure in tgr, all him dying would do is upset him.
(Kind of unrelated, but I’m also bizarrely fond of Jasmine. My problematic fav with 2 seconds of screen time. I don’t know, I just find her to be a compelling character for some reason. She’s one of the few female ravens and she clearly has an inferiority compl relating to that which causes her to make significantly more drastic decisions than some of the other members to grasp at what little power and prestige she can get within the cult. She’s also a little delusional which I enjoy.)
Anyway, I just think they all need time to come out of the Raven mindset. I’m sure in a few years after Tetsuji has lost his influence some of them will realize how fucked up that situation is.
jeremy and neil's relationship is possibly the funniest in the books. to each other they're pretty much just that weird guy jean and kevin are friends with and then one time jeremy goes on an anxiety spiral and texts neil Hey you have to stop those late night practices you will fuck your bones and neil just. never replies. he must have been so confused that not only does this virtual stranger care about his health but also that anyone would possibly suggest playing exy less.
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I pose to you a deliberately ignorant Kevin instead of oblivious Kevin. A Kevin who learned to ignore others interests in him because acknowledging the attention meant putting them direct danger of Riko’s wrath . A deliberately oblivious Kevin as a coping/protective mechanism. One that takes a while to unlearn.

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POV: you’re trying to fix the plot but your only helper is the person who wrote said plot
ik i rant about the wymack stuff a lot but god it is rough
Neil outright admits he stole Kayleigh's letter and has had it for MONTHS without Kevin knowing. Like, one of the only personal things he has of hers has been at Palmetto this whole time and now is being used against him.
And Neil outs this in front of the entire team and Neil explicitly switches to English saying that Kevin is going to go public about who his father is putting Kevin on the spot while he's actively telling Neil no.
(And this is after Kevin kept Neil's own secret for months on his behalf and literally just got choked out over it)
And like, Neil is right! The identity of who Kevin's father is has been a media spectacle since Kevin was born...because Kayleigh in her lifetime never wanted revealed. Like, Kevin would be outing something his mother never wanted to be public knowledge for several reasons.
The text validates that this is the right choice because Wymack is owed this information and it is "long past" when Kevin should have told him which feels so unfair. Kevin has no idea how Wymack would have taken the news that he was his father (canonically he doesn't take it well) and is literally on the run from his mob cult who wants him dead. If he miscalculated then he could be screwed.
And like, idk, I think if you want anyone to blame maybe it should be Kayleigh? Not Kevin who had no say in his mother's choice to hide it or his parents hooking up in the first place?
I think the worst part is when Neil tells the Foxes and shows far more empathy for their reaction to Coach being Kevin's father than for Kevin himself...and Kevin is doing this FOR NEIL.
And like I get it. Neil is a survivalist who would see this as something to use but the narrative and the Foxes at large all seem to agree this is for the best. That Kevin has deeply wronged Wymack by not telling him. And like...you're telling me none of the Foxes would understand Kevin and his daddy issues? The daddy issues team?
Writing Wu Yanzi is difficult because there's so little of him in canon, and then he also sucks really badly, so it's tempting to make him a very flat scum villain.
I try not to write flat villains always, but with SVSSS fanfiction, it feels like a particularly offensive crime. And it seems like an especially "missed the point" direction to take when writing Shen Jiu's POV.
On one hand, Shen Jiu is one of the least generous narrators that I've ever written. He's cruel, vindictive, violent, hateful, jealous, envious, deeply traumatized, and prone to assuming the worst about the world and everyone around him.
On the other hand, Shen Jiu is perhaps the most likely to be generous towards Wu Yanzi, even when he hates his master. They would have spent a LOT of time together. Traveling. Eating meals. Sleeping in the same locations. Finding work and then executing the job. Wu Yanzi was probably all kinds of abusive, but if Shen Jiu felt like he was in legitimate danger constantly, he probably wouldn't have stayed so long. Abusive relationships are rarely 100% awful all of the time, which often makes victims doubt themselves. And Wu Yanzi apparently did teach him some things and let him keep a weapon. He fed and sheltered Shen Jiu. He took Shen Jiu away from the Qiu manor fire, saving him from any authorities instead of abandoning him.
When Shen Jiu was apparently in trouble with Yue Qingyuan at the Immortal Alliance Conference, Wu Yanzi does reveal himself and intervene, instead of just slinking away, and we don't KNOW that Wu Yanzi was purely motivated by hatred towards Cang Qiong and the cultivation world, or self-preservation / hiding their activities. Wu Yanzi also could have been motivated by some genuine desire to protect his student as well! We just don't know!
Personally, I think Wu Yanzi was very likely an extremely bitter, vengeful man, who both resented and enjoyed his criminal life. For one thing, killing and mugging people at the Immortal Alliance Conference seems like a pretty stupid plan to me. I think he probably dragged Shen Jiu through hell and took his anger out on the convenient target of his student frequently.
But it's important to remember that Wu Yanzi must have a backstory. A personal history that explains his inability or unwillingness to be a kind teacher, to regulate his own pain, to temper his own self-destructive impulses. There must be reasons why he has skills but no allies, no family, no friends, no sect. He could have been decent to Shen Jiu sometimes, in his own way, as well as awful.
People can often be extremely cruel towards those who remind them of their own flaws and insecurities. This may have been Wu Yanzi to Shen Jiu, but also Shen Jiu to Wu Yanzi. Shen Jiu's feelings on Wu Yanzi have to be very complicated! (Even if I think Shen Jiu has repressed most of them!) Like Shen Jiu himself, Wu Yanzi was still a person, even if he was also a scum villain.
I want more Shen Yuan + Liu siblings interactions where it becomes increasingly more obvious that Shen Yuan thinks Liu Mingyan is cooler than her brother (she was his blorbo too!) and both the Liu siblings are utterly baffled by it. Liu Mingyan ends up using this adoration to push Shen Yuan in the direction of ships she approves (ie AWAY FROM HER BROTHER). Liu Qingge becomes extremely jealous of the attention Shen Yuan gives his baby sister, and begins the mortifying ordeal of showing off to his crush, often adjacent to his sister who knows what he’s doing and is actively trying to make him look like an idiot so he stays out of her yaoi.
LMY, eyeing her brother as he approaches with flowers: Oh Yuan-ge, did you know Gege used to sleep with a stuffed horse or else he would cry until he threw up? He still has the horse. It’s named Pinkie, because it has a pink nose.
SY, experiencing cute aggression with the power of 1,000 suns (internally): OHHHHH MY GOD THAT IS THE CUTEST THING IVE EVER HEARD OF, THE GAP MOE IS TOO POWERFUL!!!!!! RAGHGGGG IM GONNA DIE FROM CUTE OVERLOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
SY (out loud): Pinkie is a great horse name, I’d love to see it sometime. Reminds me of the stuffed cat I used to sleep with, named Kitty. :)
LMY (internally): Damnit…
LQG, listening to the entire interaction: Maybe… Kitty could meet Pinkie?
Also potentially incredible if Liu Qingge believes that is his sister is actually wingmaning him with her superior knowledge of romance since every time she gets involved he and Shen Yuan get closer.
[screenshot from Qijiu extras]
I know disciple era Qijiu have basically limitless angst potential, but I also think they have massive unexploited comedy potential.

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I love bungo stray dogs. it's the manga equivalent of when kids keep making up new rules to games so they never lose
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