âMe and Attila had a really exceptional connection, and for me that was the roughest thing, because I really, really admired his talent. But the othersâŚwe were not a unity anymore. When we were on tour, I was always drinking wine with the supports instead of sitting around talking to the other guys in the band. There was already a rift, something that separated us. There were some uncomfortable moments and Iâm not really sure of what Hellhammer and Necro thought, but for sure it was a blow. But at the same time, we didnât really get that well along, especially with Hellhammer in the end. When I look back at it, I feel like everybody kind of felt we had all this coming. The unity started to break already back in 2003 and never really got back. Too many things happened between people and we were not really respecting each other. I think it was a great feeling to have Attila in the band. Also, he motivated us, because there was not much motivation during the Chimera period. But for Ordo ad Chao me and Attila were on fire all the time. We had a lot of fun and a lot of serious talks. For me that was the saddest thing of leaving: my relationship with him and the chemistry we had. It could have gone really, really far because we had the same fucked up mentality. But the last tour I was drunk all the time, in a really miserable way, just partying with the support acts and creating a bigger space or vacuum between me and the band. And suddenly I just popped out. Everything was a bit strange. Even after the last show I didnât shake anybodyâs hand except for Attila. We got out of the plane and we separated.â