Plus Ultra

ASGORIEL WILL WIN IN THE END!!! (please don’t make a fool out of me, toby… TT^TT)

in regards to toriel and asgore, i do think there’s a chance for reconciliation, especially if asgore’s biggest crime in this universe was him simply growing neglectful towards his family because of his growing obsession with the dark worlds, his guilt and failure to protect dess. if that’s it, i think them having counseling, genuine talks and some healthy time apart can lead to a genuine reunion. my asgoriel heart would love that. that said, i do think both extreme ends of the defense for one parent or the other misunderstand the nuance behind each. toriel is NOT a bad mother for spending time with a new friend and getting drunk but she is absolutely in the wrong for not apologizing to kris for making so much noise that they couldn’t even sleep well and for constantly making them have to pick up the pieces when it comes to the family situation. it’s unfair of her to expect kris to just be okay with this kind of behavior when currently, she’s been the only adult in their life they can rely on for food, shelter and comfort. as for asgore, he definitely fell short as a father and as a husband. him neglecting his family was genuinely irresponsible and definitely worth criticizing but portraying him as this irredeemable chud who doesn’t deserve to have a life with his family again misses the point in regards to his character. good intentions aren’t enough to justify what he did and how he went about things but damning him forever is precisely what toby is asking us NOT to do. there’s a chance he can make everything right but the way he’s been going about it has been all wrong. being there for kris and asriel as a father, being a better friend/co-parent (and potentially husband again) to toriel and being there for the holidays when rudy eventually passes is exactly what asgore needs to do. and seeing kris injured in the flower king dark world is exactly what snaps him into this mindset. that’s it.

maturing is realizing what asgore and toriel both went through in undertale was tragic and deeply nuanced and can’t be pinned down to one being fully bad and the other being fully good. they both suffered because of circumstances beyond their control and through the direct actions they took.

can’t wait to take formal cosplay pictures of this but for now, i really love these!

since you guys are enjoying my sans cosplay, i might as well share that i’ve attempted to give him a voice before! the awesome human sans design being depicted here is the handiwork of my good friend @cinnimani! fun fact: her design was the main inspiration for my sans cosplay! hoping to make my cosplay more one to one to this design someday, though! ^_^

sans: laaaaadiesssss!

if the marriage is unsalvageable and toriel is ready to move on, the two still make a promise to co-parent better and always be there for their children despite not being together anymore but they also promise to be there for each other as friends. the end. best of both things. asgore also finds peace in this and is ready to look elsewhere for love. perhaps alphys in this universe? alphyne is absolutely beautiful but i like the idea of this universe’s asgore and alphys becoming an item as a divergence from undertale’s ending. plus, they’re both fat and dorky oafs that deserve to find romantic happiness beyond pining after the ones they originally loved in undertale. since they don’t have the working relationship they once had in undertale, i can see asgore and alphys going on a date, which entails of them watching anime together, reading comic books and then going out to the local diner to eat good food then chat about their interests and life beyond what they’ve just dealt with recently. maybe alphys tries to pursue undyne and things just don’t work out so asgore and alphys find comfort in validating each other as worthy of love beyond their past loves not working out. i like that outcome a lot if torigorey is donezo.

all this to say, i think whatever info we may receive in future chapters of deltarune won’t paint either party in a good light but it will lead toward an eventual heart to heart and reconciliation. whether it’s strictly kept platonic and mostly in terms of co-parenting kris and asriel or if they’re able to work toward mending their lost love slowly but surely through therapy and counseling remains to be seen. i’m okay with either outcome so long as it’s written powerfully. (which it likely will be given toby’s track record) sure, they can’t go back to the old days but in my eyes, that’s in the sense of asgore realizing the “good times” weren’t as good as he originally thought. being able to forge a better tomorrow with his family through letting go of the past is definitely what his involvement in the story will entail but i don’t think him simply moving on from toriel really gets to the bottom of why they fell out in this universe. it doesn’t really tackle the cracks in communication they experienced in their marriage. in addressing these problems, i think there’s room for them not only mending their relationship but making it even stronger than it ever was. ik i’m being pretty idealistic there and that often never really happens in real life between divorcees but hey, neither does people getting character development and much-needed reality checks through pocket dimensions in various closed off locations. leave ya boi in his delusions. : P (though, i will stress again, just in case, that i’m okay with either outcome happening in canon so long as it’s profoundly written. that’s what fanfiction is for if i wanna fill in the blanks myself. 🙂‍↕️)