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i mostly moved on from tvl mess (for real this time) but i'll try to answer stuff in my askbox. just in case i'll put it aside for too long again: i'm sorry. don't stop talking about it. i'm still technically in iwtv fandom, but i'll most likely ignore the show canon starting from tvl & will only (rarely) interact with the side of the fandom that focuses solely on iwtv. i'm still mildly interested in what amc does with qotd, but i won't follow what's happening with it.
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louis could literally do nothing and some mfs on the internet would say that he's more evil than lestat. "but look at him, he's doing nothing, there's something suspicious about him, he's definitely the most evil" and the post would have 10k likes. that's literally how antiblackness works. you see it everywhere. i watched it happen with real black people in this very fandom. call it out.
some louis outfits for @louis-love-fest!!
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Hello white tumblr user. In front of you is a post made by a Black person about their experiences with racism in a fandom you are a part of. Your challenge is to read the entire post without telling them they're making things up or making a big deal out of nothing. You also may not tell them they're wrong to tell people how to enjoy media or that they should focus on real world issues instead. If you fail this challenge the case of live hornets I have implanted in your sternum will unlock, allowing the hornets to sting your insides until you succumb to the venom. You have 60 seconds. Good luck.
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when the character is obsessive and desperate and guilty and scared and ashamed and traumatized and repressed
the most fascinating thing about iwtv fandom is that so many lestat stans immediately assume that if you criticize lestat, you can't be a victim of sexual abuse. you just can't be possibly traumatized in the same way. their talking points so often transform to "nobody cares about abuse victims" and those abuse victims are exclusively lestat and lestat fans.
i remember one anon outright said to me that i can't possibly be traumatized if i think that lestat didn't deserve an apology from louis. like, what a fucked-up group of people. this is the only group of people i've ever witnessed that so consistently goes from "we're discussing fictional character" to denying the abuse real people went through, the same kinda abuse they're always talking about wrt lestat. like dude, maybe it's you who doesn't care about abuse victims?? never thought of that??
The writing won't ever acknowledge the implications of armand's role on that regina situation because women are just props on that show but its hilarious how they keep shooting themselves on the foot with their choices and then talk about "we really tried to write ourselves into a corner" holy cope
man, i can't get over how awful that plot twist was. and you know me, i'm not exactly nice towards armand, i've talked a lot about armand's cruelty in the past year (and got into some ridiculous arguments), but this was so shockingly bad, racist and cartoonish that it made me roll my eyes when it was revealed. i can't say i liked how regina storyline carried out before that moment, but it was something, it legitimately had potential for the same complexity and horror we all loved in iwtv. ep4 had some great uncomfortable moments. and then they did... this. but louis was a pimp, did you hear??
honestly, i keep holding onto my main cope for tvl: it's all lestat's pov, lestat is depicting armand as cartoonish figure in the same way armand depicted lestat in s2e3. in retrospect i also think it's funny that after ep6 i joked that maybe lestat paid merrick to create a vision of claudia and make louis move on from his grief, but my joke somehow took a form of armand hiring regina to mess with louis' head about claudia. yes, this is the level of writing we're dealing with here. a tumblr joke.
the treatment of women in tvl was abysmal and i can't stop wondering how they're gonna deal with it in the next season where they allegedly wanna explore some feminist ideas and focus on women in general (judging from the teaser and what rolin mentioned in the printed article). not that i'll be waiting to see, because the chances are high that it's gonna be very bad. but i'm curious.
tragic: tumblr user develops new obsession(s) with media that none of their mutuals know or care about
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why do we always bash girls for poisoning their family with arsenic but never question if the family had bad vibes? or was unpleasant to be around?
Louis is Lestat’s wife and son while being Claudia’s brother, mother, and father. Louis is an eternal bride that is constantly getting proposed to yet constantly divorced. He is an eternal mother who keeps having kids (Claudia & Daniel) while also not wanting to actually make them (Madeleine.) And yes Daniel does have a crush on him. Wake up people, this is not complicated
drew kris dreemurr for the melanin beam challenge ran by @creatingblackcharacters!!
guys, it's time for another passive-aggressive poll
what is your favorite strawman wrt to louis fans?
don't understand that louis can be manipulative and cruel
can't accept that louis abused claudia
just don't want louis to be evil
say that lestat and armand aren't abuse survivors
can't see that louis loves lestat (the most!!!)
want louis to be a perfect victim
ignore jacob's words when he criticizes louis
My bad I forgot we are in the iwtv surveillance state, should have worded that better but you got my point and thats all it matter, the other anon can choke 🫶
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"iwtv surveillance state" is such a perfect description lmao. i'll be honest, what gets me in this situation is double standards. because yeah, i agree that we all should be careful with terminology especially if we're writing serious analysis. but also like… lestat fans regularly make viral posts about lestat being "a victim of misogyny" and it's somehow accepted as normal fandom behavior, but other fans can't even mention "madonna-whore complex" in a joking manner without getting hate mail with the speed of light.
(and btw even though i was trying to be polite, it was indeed a hate mail, because normal people would say "i don't like the way anon worded their ask" instead of acting like someone committed a crime. i didn't even put the ask into main tags and yet they were here 2 minutes after. iwtv surveillance state indeed).
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pet peeve of mine is that so many games with gift-giving mechanic refuse to give you hints on what kinda gifts characters love... and then you look up the guide and it's some kinda "dark honey lobster fried cake". like how am i supposed to fucking guess.
i keep seeing all the poor little meow meow posts about lestat and thinking how much the writers fucked up his character while trying to create more sympathy for him. his character as a whole is mostly extremely off-putting to me now. sympathetic framing only works when it's enough to balance out the weight of horrible actions, and at some point "poor him" just doesn't work anymore, you as a writer would need to add some development and accountability to make the scales more even. you need to challenge the character, even (or especially) fun anti-hero types. avoiding the accountability is the last thing you wanna do.
the fact that they understood it perfectly with louis but somehow completely missed the mark with lestat is genuinely tragic. like, i just don't wanna watch anything about that character. he's not compelling. he was my second favorite before tvl...
