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Hey, what’s the relationship like with Jason and Tim? Because I know a while back Jason attacked him and the Teen Titans (I really want to read it but I still can’t find that comic🙁) but they now seem like they have a really good relationship, especially compared to Jason and Dick/Damian. Thank you :)

Well that’s the million dollar question isn’t it

To start off, here’s the relevant scene from Teen Titans 29:

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p1: 20s Detective&Assistant 

Yeah! That sounds horrible with zero context. And I’ve been seeing an influx of posts recently acting like Dick is a terrible person because he did this…but I just wanted to clarify what happened in canon, because honestly he wasn’t being cruel or horrible. 

First thing to keep in mind is the characterization of the Jason that Dick was dealing with. He didn’t throw Rebirth anti-hero Jason Todd into Arkham…he was dealing with a Jason that had beaten Tim nearly to death twice, one who had nearly killed Bruce on several different occasions. 

Batman: Battle for the Cowl #2 Jason attempts to kill Tim, and believes he has with no remorse. It is only luck that allows Tim to survive. 

In fact, Jason had nearly killed Tim very recently before Dick put Jason into Arkham. After Bruce’s death, Jason was written as really unstable. He wasn’t depicted as an anti-hero, he was pretty much a villain. He even describes himself as such: 

Batman and Robin (2009) #23 Jason talks to Bruce about transferring to another prison facility. 

“I am simply homicidal. Will I kill again? Sure. Am I a bad person? Oh yeah.” I would not say that this the characterization for Jason I prefer (not at all), but a psychotic, unhinged Jason Todd was the one that Dick was dealing with at the time all this went down. 

Me: Are you sure?

“Dick was not really willing to listen or try to see things from Jason’s perspective.”

Dick seems to understand him plenty

[Batman and Robin (2009) #6] 

[Batman and Robin (2009) #24]

“Dick never seemed interested in helping rehabilitate Jason other than that time he gave him his phone number.”

Twice

[Batman: Battle for the Cowl #3]

[Batman and Robin (2009) #6]

And in the new timeline Dick also tries to include Jason in the family

[Batman (2011) #15]