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Hi!! forgive me if this was touched on prior i may be missing a post
I wanted to ask about Connor's relationship with Imogen and how it evolved over time? Were they ever close, was she an active part of his life when he was a child? Does Imogen ever find out Connor's true identity and does it stop her in her tracks at all? I'm so curious about what they feel toward each other and how it shapes their characters.
NOT SURE HOW WELL ANY OF THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION BUT HEY LORE TIME? ATTEMPT AT LORE TIME? idk
Keeping in mind a lot of this is still subject to change but as it currently stands:
Connor would have been at most a toddler when Owain got him out, so he would be unlikely to remember her very well if at all.
TBH I'm undecided as to whether Imogen was actually attentive to him at that time or if it was mostly Owain caring for him from day 1. Likely at least enough to 1- keep Connor alive, and 2- look like she cared.
He would spend much of his life thinking of Imogen the same way most people do; 'Owain's late first wife who was killed by the Blood Witch that he never talks about'
Sidenote; When Owain returned to [Home Town/City?] after several years away with Imogen all he gave for an explanation to anyone was 'Blood Witch'. Everyone assumed his wife was killed by her, and he wasn't exactly quick to correct anyone.
Connor likely would have developed an idea of what she could have been like based on stories from those who did get to briefly meet her; 'fair', 'pure', very (conventionally) beautiful. A very fairytale-esque idea of both her and the former relationship between her and Owain.
Sidenote; I'm saying 'first wife' in reference to Imogen because I'm debating Owain and Dahlia being married in the present with a much more healthy, positive relationship than Owain and Imogen had. If I do go with this, then Connor probably wouldn't think/wonder about Imogen as much (still would a bit, just not in the same way) because he would have a (step-)Mom right there who loves and cares about him.
Until learning the truth, Connor would consider Imogen 'A seemingly good woman I'll never get to know'. After; 'The witch who cursed me' (or another word that rhymes with witch)
For the rest I'm putting under it a cut. Gonna ramble a bit on some Imogen details. Heads up; some mentions of Bodily Autonomy and a little bit of Transphobia. (Note: Imogen is Not a Good Person)
On Imogen and her 'plans' for Connor;
So some brief inspiration context; I have mentioned in a post on my gw2 blog but I don't think I copied it here; part of Imogen (particularly the fact she's the main antagonist) takes some inspiration from Dragon Age: Origins, specifically the concept of the Dark Ritual and how it could relate to themes of bodily autonomy (particularly uterine autonomy) which is kind of a major 'theme' I'm working with I guess (or at least trying to work with; I Am Not A Writer)
Imogen's whole deal is she's a very powerful witch trying to use her own 'daughters' (or rather, her children with uteruses/wombs) to birth a powerful God Baby to harvest magic from so she can become a literal God herself.
The reason she would be trying to use her children rather than birthing the God Baby herself is because all of her attempts involve horrific magical experiments that she doesn't want to do to herself, so she uses them due to still having her blood/genetics. To Imogen, her children are not people, they are tools.
She has very weird ideas about both Magic and Biology that make other witches go 'wtf is wrong with this woman, that's not how that works'
Sidenote; When Owain found out Imogen = the Blood Witch he didn't know what her plan for Connor was, just that it was Bad. This is also when he lost his ring finger. Imogen cut it off, and I'm debating that it was because he disagreed with her over something small and that's what first tipped him off that something was very wrong. Also she more than likely planned to use Owain for some other magic experiment once she no longer 'needed' him.
Imogen's reaction to learning who Connor is: she ends up considering him a 'damaged daughter/woman' and even accuses Owain of 'corrupting' Connor. (Which is ironic because the only 'corruption' is Connor's Wolf form which is Imogen's doing.)
Sidenote; she already accuses Owain of 'stealing' Connor since he got away from her.
Still trying to decide why she becomes obsessed with Connor specifically? Best I have is she somehow convinced herself that Owain is Biologically Special due to his ability/skill as a Hunter. (In reality he's just A Guy who is good at his job and also very lucky). Owain being special = Connor being special and possibly The One. Not sure if that works writing-wise though.
Sidenote; there's no way Imogen would call Connor 'Connor' but I don't feel like confirming a 'deadname' for him so she'd have a title for him (as well as her previous children). It also adds more to the element of her not seeing any of them as people to not have actual names for them. (Connor obviously would have had a different name originally, chosen by Owain, but again I don't feel like it's necessary to confirm it in story)
Also kinda related but finally trying to figure out Connor's half sisters; pretty much decided on;
There are 3 (there would probably be more, but 3 'survived' Imogen's experiments). An idea for one is to sort of use a dullahan (I think that's how it's spelled?) as visual inspiration, except instead of the head being carried or completely gone, the head/face would be on the abdomen. The downside to this is I picture her with big armour so I need to figure out a design that makes sense and also has the face visible. Not sure about the other 2 yet.
In a 'if this were a video game' way; they'd all be major boss fights so I would want to keep that in mind for their designs.
Hi!! forgive me if this was touched on prior i may be missing a post
I wanted to ask about Connor's relationship with Imogen and how it evolved over time? Were they ever close, was she an active part of his life when he was a child? Does Imogen ever find out Connor's true identity and does it stop her in her tracks at all? I'm so curious about what they feel toward each other and how it shapes their characters.
NOT SURE HOW WELL ANY OF THIS ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION BUT HEY LORE TIME? ATTEMPT AT LORE TIME? idk
Keeping in mind a lot of this is still subject to change but as it currently stands:
Connor would have been at most a toddler when Owain got him out, so he would be unlikely to remember her very well if at all.
TBH I'm undecided as to whether Imogen was actually attentive to him at that time or if it was mostly Owain caring for him from day 1. Likely at least enough to 1- keep Connor alive, and 2- look like she cared.
He would spend much of his life thinking of Imogen the same way most people do; 'Owain's late first wife who was killed by the Blood Witch that he never talks about'
Sidenote; When Owain returned to [Home Town/City?] after several years away with Imogen all he gave for an explanation to anyone was 'Blood Witch'. Everyone assumed his wife was killed by her, and he wasn't exactly quick to correct anyone.
Connor likely would have developed an idea of what she could have been like based on stories from those who did get to briefly meet her; 'fair', 'pure', very (conventionally) beautiful. A very fairytale-esque idea of both her and the former relationship between her and Owain.
Sidenote; I'm saying 'first wife' in reference to Imogen because I'm debating Owain and Dahlia being married in the present with a much more healthy, positive relationship than Owain and Imogen had. If I do go with this, then Connor probably wouldn't think/wonder about Imogen as much (still would a bit, just not in the same way) because he would have a (step-)Mom right there who loves and cares about him.
Until learning the truth, Connor would consider Imogen 'A seemingly good woman I'll never get to know'. After; 'The witch who cursed me' (or another word that rhymes with witch)
For the rest I'm putting under it a cut. Gonna ramble a bit on some Imogen details. Heads up; some mentions of Bodily Autonomy and a little bit of Transphobia. (Note: Imogen is Not a Good Person)
On Imogen and her 'plans' for Connor;
So some brief inspiration context; I have mentioned in a post on my gw2 blog but I don't think I copied it here; part of Imogen (particularly the fact she's the main antagonist) takes some inspiration from Dragon Age: Origins, specifically the concept of the Dark Ritual and how it could relate to themes of bodily autonomy (particularly uterine autonomy) which is kind of a major 'theme' I'm working with I guess (or at least trying to work with; I Am Not A Writer)
Imogen's whole deal is she's a very powerful witch trying to use her own 'daughters' (or rather, her children with uteruses/wombs) to birth a powerful God Baby to harvest magic from so she can become a literal God herself.
The reason she would be trying to use her children rather than birthing the God Baby herself is because all of her attempts involve horrific magical experiments that she doesn't want to do to herself, so she uses them due to still having her blood/genetics. To Imogen, her children are not people, they are tools.
She has very weird ideas about both Magic and Biology that make other witches go 'wtf is wrong with this woman, that's not how that works'
Sidenote; When Owain found out Imogen = the Blood Witch he didn't know what her plan for Connor was, just that it was Bad. This is also when he lost his ring finger. Imogen cut it off, and I'm debating that it was because he disagreed with her over something small and that's what first tipped him off that something was very wrong. Also she more than likely planned to use Owain for some other magic experiment once she no longer 'needed' him.
Imogen's reaction to learning who Connor is: she ends up considering him a 'damaged daughter/woman' and even accuses Owain of 'corrupting' Connor. (Which is ironic because the only 'corruption' is Connor's Wolf form which is Imogen's doing.)
Sidenote; she already accuses Owain of 'stealing' Connor since he got away from her.
Still trying to decide why she becomes obsessed with Connor specifically? Best I have is she somehow convinced herself that Owain is Biologically Special due to his ability/skill as a Hunter. (In reality he's just A Guy who is good at his job and also very lucky). Owain being special = Connor being special and possibly The One. Not sure if that works writing-wise though.
Sidenote; there's no way Imogen would call Connor 'Connor' but I don't feel like confirming a 'deadname' for him so she'd have a title for him (as well as her previous children). It also adds more to the element of her not seeing any of them as people to not have actual names for them. (Connor obviously would have had a different name originally, chosen by Owain, but again I don't feel like it's necessary to confirm it in story)
It's past midnight but I am sitting here with the notes app open and a crap ton of Lore that I will be going over tomorrow when I am more awake/functional
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It's past midnight but I am sitting here with the notes app open and a crap ton of Lore that I will be going over tomorrow when I am more awake/functional
I tend to draw very tiny so usually stuff like eyes don't get a lot of detail.
So here's me trying to decide Connor's and Eva's eye shapes. Kinda wanted to give them very 'opposite' shapes. (Note; it's not normally visible in my drawings but Connor wears eyeliner)
Also I wanted to give them both some kind of glowing eyes :3
Hey let's see if words can work for me right now so I can overthink Connor (at least for a short ramble); specifically Connor's feelings on his body in general, as well as romantic/sexual relationships
Note: I don't know what Tumblr will allow re: certain topics so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(And yeah, at this point I really am using (at least some of) these ocs to try exploring more 'Sexual' topics. I hope that's okay with everybody.)
On his body;
Basically I picture Connor as someone who likes his body as is, and is generally confident about his appearance. He's comfortable with his chest/breasts as well as his overall shape/size. He is also very proud of his physical strength/muscle mass.
When he's somewhere considered 'safe' and around people he knows/trusts he doesn't bother to 'hide' his body; no chest binding, just standard comfy clothing.
Only times he really binds are when in unfamiliar places/around unfamiliar people or when wearing his armour (the latter often being unrelated to how he looks and is just how his armour fits) His only real discomfort comes from other people's treatment towards him.
On romantic/sexual relationships/encounters;
Even though Connor isn't the Brightest Bulb in the Bunch, he is aware of how people generally view him for his 'non-typical' (aka Not Cis) body. He's also aware that he 'Isn't to everyone's taste' because of him being trans but also his general body type/weight, though he does take a very 'If someone doesn't like my body/how I look, that's their problem' attitude.
He also knows how to pick up on if someone is acting 'weird' towards him. Basically whether or not they actually view him as a Man or if they instead view him as a Woman (or worse; a novelty/'toy')
As for sexual encounters I think he would have a tendency to still wear a shirt or something to at least partially cover his chest if not 100% comfortable with someone yet. (Actually letting the person touch his chest/boobs is another layer.) In long term relationships this would change as he gains comfort/trust towards his partner.
Anyways that's about all I've gotten on the Overthinking Character Stuff so far on this topic.
(Note: I'm mostly focusing on the chest/breast aspect because I haven't figured out the rest yet (with no idea where to start) and also as mentioned up top, I don't know what Tumblr allows.)
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Hi have the one sketch I have managed tonight, I need sleep now (I'm not worried about content tags on this one since it's a pencil sketch and literally nothing is visible)
(On a Side Note; overthinking about these two in general but also Connor specifically re; Gender Stuff and how he would possibly feel about himself and relationships I guess (I don't know if those are the words I'm looking for rn, it's late and I'm tired). Maybe I'll try and draw/ramble about that when I have more time/energy)
Hi have the one sketch I have managed tonight, I need sleep now (I'm not worried about content tags on this one since it's a pencil sketch and literally nothing is visible)
(On a Side Note; overthinking about these two in general but also Connor specifically re; Gender Stuff and how he would possibly feel about himself and relationships I guess (I don't know if those are the words I'm looking for rn, it's late and I'm tired). Maybe I'll try and draw/ramble about that when I have more time/energy)
Quick link for reference because the post is already kind of long;
💬 0 🔁 6 ❤️ 1 · Coming back to this again and realizing Connor's Wolf Form is technically a variation of 'Corrupted'. Oops.
(That reminds
The last bit is the important part here; Connor's Wolf form being 'corrupted'.
I'm currently liking the idea that;
Imogen 'cursed' Connor with the intention of him killing Owain then dying (side note; she would not have known who Connor is at the time. To her he's just some Random Guy following her ex-husband around instead of the (quote) 'missing/stolen daughter' she's looking for.)
Owain somehow getting Connor back to his senses, then taking him to Adelaide hoping she can cure him.
Adelaide not being able to do much because while she is powerful and the curse is different then standard 'corrupted' she can't completely over power it.
Instead, she is able to lessen it so it won't kill him. But Connor still has to be careful with it.
This is also how Connor and Adelaide meet.
Note; Owain has known Adelaide since he got away from Imogen but Adelaide agreed to stay out of Connor's life to keep Imogen away. She did however, watch over him and Owain from a distance (with her unnamed pet/familiar crow) and has occasional chats with Owain in person. (Side Note; I still need to decide why Imogen didn't just track down Owain sooner)
Quick link for reference because the post is already kind of long;
💬 0 🔁 6 ❤️ 1 · Coming back to this again and realizing Connor's Wolf Form is technically a variation of 'Corrupted'. Oops.
(That reminds
The last bit is the important part here; Connor's Wolf form being 'corrupted'.
I'm currently liking the idea that;
Imogen 'cursed' Connor with the intention of him killing Owain then dying (side note; she would not have known who Connor is at the time. To her he's just some Random Guy following her ex-husband around instead of the (quote) 'missing/stolen daughter' she's looking for.)
Owain somehow getting Connor back to his senses, then taking him to Adelaide hoping she can cure him.
Adelaide not being able to do much because while she is powerful and the curse is different then standard 'corrupted' she can't completely over power it.
Instead, she is able to lessen it so it won't kill him. But Connor still has to be careful with it.
This is also how Connor and Adelaide meet.
Note; Owain has known Adelaide since he got away from Imogen but Adelaide agreed to stay out of Connor's life to keep Imogen away. She did however, watch over him and Owain from a distance (with her unnamed pet/familiar crow) and has occasional chats with Owain in person. (Side Note; I still need to decide why Imogen didn't just track down Owain sooner)
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