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Virago - Gender Non Conforming Women

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I will try to take a break for a bit. This past while had my patience stretched thin. 😿 be good, don't cause drama.
I think Im veyris bro i feel so dumb for identifying with virago ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ I love feminine men and femininity soo fucking muchhh
I'm glad you like it!!!! I want to create more stuff for you guys since I always wanted to talk about this specific aspect of a social position.
How do you define HetGNC?
It's a sexuality contigent on gender non conformity.
There's two sides of it. One is GC people attracted to GNC. Another is GNC4GNC/Virago4Mollis.
Pulling up some new shit, so read my last post lol
To make it very simple, there are three major centers of HetGNC. Two of which include one member who is not GNC, but usually exclusively attracted to them.
Fem4Fem - Veyris/Mollis
Masc4Masc - Boro/Virago
Masc4Fem - Virago/Mollis
It's a verrrry specific queer state of being.
The New Terms
So far we have Virago and Mollis. Both of which I have worked on for quite some time on my own. Because of this I had used both as a shorthand for all possible types of hetgnc orientations.
But since Virago and Mollis are centered around GNC folk, it became a little difficult to tell the difference in conversation. It's also a little different since certain community members feel emeshed and overstepping on GNC issues.
So I made some for GC Hetgnc people.
Intoducing:
Veyris (Vay-rizz)
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Boro (Bore-rows)
Unlike most other terms, I named both based on the two most masculine and feminine people I knew. Though I like how similar Veyris sounds to Virago.
Veyris: A feminine woman attracted to feminine men / a feminine woman exclusively attracted to femininity or gender non conforming femininity.
Boro: masculine men attracted to masculine women / masculine men exclusively attracted to maculinity or gender non conforming masculinity.
These terms describe GC people and their queer attraction and makes it easier to advocate for gnc liberation. If you're currently using Femme Virago or Masc Mollis, this is the same thing! You can still use them, but...it feels cool to have your own word, right?
(Oh and you already have flags! we're probably going to remake the masc mollis flag again)
Stay tuned! One more term which would help us out even more is coming...

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Basic understanding of what I'm understanding of the terms, excuse the mediocre doodles. Didn't include androgynous people sorry 💔 i'm tired today (they always be tired). Correct me if I'm reading the terms wrong frfr (probably going to include androgynous people)
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Just wondering tho, how do these dynamics get affected by non-monogamy
Great post! You're largely on the mark. And yes, androgynous and nonbinaries count.
Another thing I want to clarify that doesn't apply to the label in specific is RoleReversal or anything related to gender roles or actions seen as gendered. It isn't really apart of the label because of it's connotations.
Any updates on the new GC hetgnc sexuality labels?
It's been like... a day ðŸ˜
I'm still working on it. I'll try to propose them soon.
Ngl im sorry for doubting you, that person made me realize how we really DO need to band together.
It's okay ! I'm reallg glad some of you are coming around and using this as an opportunity to reflect and converse with eachother. Conflicts happen, but I feel like we can all learn from it somehow.
Stupidest week ever here ngl
This is why I say we have a transphobia problem. Can anyone look at this and not tell me it's not transphobic?
Heads up, terf ideology is incompatible with our community and GNC liberational politics and the exact opposite of who should be using the label.
You are not welcome if you spew this rhetoric or dislike our trans siblings. The label is fundementally incompatible with you.
Nowhere does it say I should support trans to be a Virago.
It says if you're a GNC woman then you might be Virago. That's all there is to it.
You have to support trans people to be Virago.
Why? It makes no sense whatsoever.
Like I have not read this PSA anywhere.
Sure I noticed you're all drinking the trans koolaid but I thought that's just a byproduct of Virago being a label that is tied to the general queer community.
It's not a requirement to support trans.
I'm not sure if you're getting the memo, but this community isn't centered around your preferences. Trans people preceed your stay in this community and we've had multiple talks regarding this. You are the new one here.
If you cannot respect this, the label isn't for you because trans solidarity is essential for the label to truly represent and care for Trans GNC people.
I also wrote a whole post about GNC Trans people. This is on you. If you do not respect trans people, you are not welcome here and that is final.

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This is why I say we have a transphobia problem. Can anyone look at this and not tell me it's not transphobic?
Heads up, terf ideology is incompatible with our community and GNC liberational politics and the exact opposite of who should be using the label.
You are not welcome if you spew this rhetoric or dislike our trans siblings. The label is fundementally incompatible with you.
Nowhere does it say I should support trans to be a Virago.
It says if you're a GNC woman then you might be Virago. That's all there is to it.
You have to support trans people to be Virago.
People like #that are why i'm worried about certain ways we approach the label. It becomes a beacon for trouble.
This is why I say we have a transphobia problem. Can anyone look at this and not tell me it's not transphobic?
Heads up, terf ideology is incompatible with our community and GNC liberational politics and the exact opposite of who should be using the label.
You are not welcome if you spew this rhetoric or dislike our trans siblings. The label is fundementally incompatible with you.
& I'm gonna be honest, the usage of GNC4GNC has been so confusing because the label has always been inherently GNC4GNC, right? Because one of the main aspects is masculine women 4 feminine men...which is GNC4GNC? I have gathered people seem to be talking about GNC4GNC monosexual gays, but using GNC4GNC alone as a shorthand for that makes no sense to me lmao
I mainly meant the former for the definition, yeah. In principle there still should be no problem with GNC4GNC gay people in the label.
I agree with most of your decisions, especially ones now with GNC4GNC.
One I don't get: GC people in a GNC label. Maybe it's time to place away Feminine GC women and Masc GC men into just hetgnc.
Oh hello! I never seen you before!
We already went through this before, but I've come around to this idea...in my own way.
As apart of Virago's hetgnc focus, I included all of hetgnc people. But alot of you have been giving me some good ideas.
Remember what I said about sublabels? Well, I've been drafting four terms to better diffrentiate between gnc sexuality and allinity.
The first two are descriptive terms to explain the different types of HetGNC
1. A word for GNCxGNC hetgnc: (ViragoxMollis, MollisxMollis, ViragoxVirago)
2. A word for GCxGNC hetgnc: (FemViragoxMollis, MascMollisxVirago)
The second two terms would be specific identities for FemVirago and MascMollis. It would be functionally the same as before, just under a different name.
I had a talk with one femme virago to tell us about her experiences. It felt a little different than what had imagined on paper. Plus, alot if our GC hetgnc members feel like they're overstepping on GNC spaces.
That means if you like feminine women as a mollis, you're still mollis on the basis of your gender nonconformity.
I feel like this is a good compromise that would make most people happy. Virago/Mollis would tighten the GNC definition, whilst still protecting all of the hetgnc community.

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So are you saying we shouldn't do role reversal in the label either?
Honestly, I feel like I'm not being listened to by anyone and it's making me frustrated. I can tell when consenus wants me to support something they're doing.
We've had this conversation previously. RoleReversal isn't a focus on the label because it's not always related to being GNC.
The reason why I stopped is because not many people were looking into *what* roles are in a political/feminist lens. It's mostly just what feels right, which would make sense for gender, but not entirely with of gender roles. (Famously, which are misogynistic and patriarchal)
I've also been very vocal from the begininng how we need to at least be concious of what constitutes certain "roles" other than just vibes or preferences. Because alot of what determines these roles are fueled by misogyny.
It's not okay when you're taking tradwife conservative politics and applying them to HetGNC. I've curated a space to talk about GNC women and their struggles so feminist issues like these still apply.
There is much room to examine how roles can be queered, but observing how patriarchal systems are embedded is a priority.
Btw forgot to mention, but my takes on rolereversal still stand as it regards to hetgnc relationships. Things like "matriarchy" as concepts I did work on as it relates to gncphobia are still topics I want to cover.
I felt like rolereversal was a seperate thing that intersects. It's that we all know and love, but it's not the "main thing";if that makes sense. I still love it to death and it is still apart of our culture here. You can still use it in tags and everywhere else, it just won't be inside the definition.
Imagine being so possesive over an orientation you start attacking the person who helped you because they said it's not just for you.
My inbox has always been ugly so im used to it by now. I feel a mixture of defeat, sadness and anger rn tbh.