i feel like a huge part of the fandom treat aftg as something way too soft and make it look almost cringey
AFTG is for the baddies

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i feel like a huge part of the fandom treat aftg as something way too soft and make it look almost cringey
AFTG is for the baddies

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Andrew Minyard loves slightly melted ice-cream and Neil Josten who always takes it out of the freezer in advance so that Andrew doesn't have to wait to eat it when he gets home
one thing about neil is that he's extremely calculated and genuinely does not give a fuck about 90% of people. and the 10% of people he Does care about he's still willing to manipulate and use for what he views as the best outcome (re: breaking a bone to heal it properly) and i think there's an instinct to downplay this so that neil can be the softer/less intense/emotional one to andrew's uncaring/intense/harsh demeanor bcus there's an obsession in our culture with opposites attract (re: heteronormativity) but it does their dynamic a huge disservice to ignore the Basis of andreil. which is the understanding they have of each other + their reasons + their reactions and how extremely similar they are.
It seems like anybody but me knows what made Andrew change his mind about his attraction to Neil between "nothing will come of it" and kissing him six chapters later. Especially considering that Neil said and did nothing about it after finding out. Shouldn't he have taken his silence as a rejection? Or he knew something that Neil didn't know himself yet? This gets me confused every time I think about it
do you think neil and andrew fart in front of each other

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The thing i won't fall for in this fandom is that Andrew always wears black and those high boots. Because that means he has some kind of a style and specific preferences, which, in my opinion, he doesn't, just because he doesn't give a fuck about it. He just wears clothes, normal clothes. That's it.
It's basic one colored t-shirts, hoodies, zip hoodies, longsleeves, sweatpants, jeans and sneakers. Only for going to Edens i can imagine him wearing something actually good looking like a black shirt with dark blue jeans or idk something else. Not more.
And yes i remember he was the one that bothered to buy Neil clothes, but that's only because Neil's clothes was ugly and worn-out af and Andrew couldn't tolerate this. Especially considering how pretty Neil was but that's the other thing.
So yes, for me, he's not that cool looking how he's in fanarts when it comes to the clothes he wears. I mean, why would he be? He is depressed and traumatized and 90 percent of the time he is hallow. There is no such thing as fashion and style in his mind.
Ofc he dresses much better than Neil. That boy's wardrobe deserves to be studied but Andrew will take care of it.
Thank you for that opinion! I’m tired of seeing images of tall black patent leather boots or red sneakers and realizing that these shoes are being used in place of the characters’ faces. These are romantic, of course, just as people like them, but it’s dangerous to run with this and forget that we value the dynamics of relationships in AFTG for their practically realistic nature (in particular, Andreils, whose feelings are conveyed by… the plot, oddly enough, rather than the author’s words silently hanging in the air).
I doubt that Andrew or anyone else on the team will be able to get Neil interested in the concept of personal style. Presumably, he might use it as a tool, and, yes, even more than that: he might like something, but not seriously or personally — it’s just an attempt to get himself interested so he can keep up with his team and partner. Neil will change his wardrobe just as easily as he would abandon many “temporary” items in the event of an emergency escape.
When you’re going through a change of identity, you’re bound to experience at least a slight sense of dissociation, and your personal preferences will seem trivial compared to the idea that “this is all temporary". The only person whose opinion about clothing Josten would likely take seriously is his mother. But that’s a matter of authority and survival.
So yes, you’re right, Andrew will certainly ensure a proper appearance for the one who belongs to him, but in essence, neither of them ever worries about it more than an official visit requires.
That's exactly what I think!! I really like how u expanded on this
The thing i won't fall for in this fandom is that Andrew always wears black and those high boots. Because that means he has some kind of a style and specific preferences, which, in my opinion, he doesn't, just because he doesn't give a fuck about it. He just wears clothes, normal clothes. That's it.
It's basic one colored t-shirts, hoodies, zip hoodies, longsleeves, sweatpants, jeans and sneakers. Only for going to Edens i can imagine him wearing something actually good looking like a black shirt with dark blue jeans or idk something else. Not more.
And yes i remember he was the one that bothered to buy Neil clothes, but that's only because Neil's clothes was ugly and worn-out af and Andrew couldn't tolerate this. Especially considering how pretty Neil was but that's the other thing.
So yes, for me, he's not that cool looking how he's in fanarts when it comes to the clothes he wears. I mean, why would he be? He is depressed and traumatized and 90 percent of the time he is hallow. There is no such thing as fashion and style in his mind.
Ofc he dresses much better than Neil. That boy's wardrobe deserves to be studied but Andrew will take care of it.
Sooo... what's Andreil's relationship progression trope in your opinion? I really can't find a proper answer to this question because... Who were they at the beginning? Enemies? No, because they definitely didnt hate each other, there was just a distrust between them and because they are both bitches they were how they were until the deal was made.
But even after that we can't name what was that thing between them. It's not a friendship, of course it wasn't. They were just getting closer and trusted each other more than anybody else and that's it. Then after a while they kissed.
So? Not enemies to lovers, not friends to lovers. Maybe strangers to lovers but being honest I'm not satisfied with this one either because they were much more before that. Calling them strangers physically hurts.
And actually, should they be considered as any trope? There are so many things about them that have to be felt and words are needless. I guess it's just how they always work.
As much as both of them hated labels they managed just fine to avoid any of them even from other's perspective
I'm still irritated af by the fact that Nora gave Kevin at least four!!! situationships just for him to end up with fucking Thea. I mean just let the boy finally be gay, he deserves this
maybe my English sucks, maybe I’m delulu, or maybe I’m just obsessed (feel free to correct me if I’m wrong), but has no one else noticed that we’re not talking about just one instance here? not just one kiss. not just that moment on the rooftop. not just this one time. we’re talking about it in general. maybe I’m so hung up on this line because, in my native language, the second “let” would literally be in a continuous form, a form which stands out very strongly in the writing, implying that this is something that’s already expected to keep happening in the future. and that’s why I’m just… ???? because Andrew was already absolutely certain after that first kiss that he would want to do it again. not just kiss Neil, but eventually go further, when Neil agreed to it. he already knew this wasn’t going to be a one-time thing. he already knew it would happen again, and more than once. come on! a second ago, Neil was sure you didn't give a damn about him, and now he finds out you're actually planning to fuck him just a little later. ????

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Actually it's hard for me to realize that Andrew Myniard goes to therapy. Andrew Minyard, who doesn't trust people and doesn't care about himself and always says he wants nothing, willingly goes to therapy to be mentally healthier??? Wtf
I love andreil and andreil love each other and that's exactly why I love them
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It's unfair how little in this fandom we talk about the moment when Andrew convinced Neil to keep the phone. Like Andrew's words were so powerful they left Neil speechless and with his mouth open.
But the thing I like most of all is that before this Andrew bothered enough to install a ringtone with the song that was associated with Neil.
I just think about Andrew hearing this song once somewhere and then after a while he decided that it's perfect to be a ringtone on his crush's phone. Andrew is such a romantic
When Andrew kissed Neil for the first time, Neil wasn't really good at it as he hadn't had enough practice but Andrew couldn't care less. This wasn't the best kiss he had ever had but it was definitely the most important one. He was kissing Neil fucking Josten and that's enough for him to be satisfied

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It’s so funny that Kevin is the one who’s been shipped with absolutely everyone: Jean, Andrew, Neil. Jeremy is literally his canon crush!! and somehow every single one of those crushes eventually collides with each other without Kevin having any involvement whatsoever. please, I’m begging, include Kevin in at least one pairing. like, look to the right: Andrew and Neil are making out. look to the left: Jean pulls the last piece of Jeremy's clothing off. and then there’s Kevin Day, stuck in the middle of this entire disaster, looking around like:
“Does anyone even care that in at least one version of this story, every single one of you is responsible for me getting wet? And by the way, you’re all only dating because I made it happen! No, no, don’t stop. Please, keep devouring each other. Really. Don’t mind me. Seriously, no need to thank me.”
In my opinion, the first time Andrew truly trusted Neil was when he gave him his knives (let Neil take it to be exact) and left himself fully unarmed around him. In all the other times we can see Andrew's trust in Neil before that, Andrew still had control on situation. For many years cuts and the weight of the knives on his armbands were something that let him keep it. Giving Neil his knives meant giving him all of Andrew's control which he was always so afraid to lose but didn't hesitate to hand it over to Neil because he knew he wouldn't take advantage of it. I love them