I'm physically nonhuman, CDD sys, fictionkin, objectkin, a selfshipper, and a guy. I also dearly love my girlfriend
dni if:
endo/under that umbrella/supporter*, factkin, KFF community (does NOT include otherlink, synpath, etc), anti physical/biological/non spiritual or psychological nonhumans/kins/therians etc, anti fictionkin, radqs/trnsids/etc, anti-recovery/pro forced-recovery, T.R.A.S.H, don't believe in transmisogyny/transandrophobia/exorsexism/intersexism etc etc, pro/comp/neu contact (this includes engaging w fiction) big3 paras
*this is for my own comfort, as a cdd system who has had his mental health Greatly negatively impacted by this community in the past, and simply wants peace.
I'll make a nice and pretty pinned later. If I can remember.
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Gatekeeping quads and gear, especially outside of therians is kind of funky. It's actually such BS. First off, what about the rest of the alterhuman community? Even if you're including all alterhumans in the 'nobody else can do this >:(' crap, it's still weird. In what world did we invent making masks of animals? In what way did we invent using items to connect to an animal/fictional character/etc? In what way did we invent walking on all fours? In what world is that stuff ours and ours alone? It's also not quirky to gatekeep. Something about this kind of thing just makes me feel so icky.
Misuse of language is a totally different can of worms / discussion and I don't want to see ANYONE twisting this into me saying 'people who have nothing to do with alterhumanity making kinlists and otherwise stealing fictionkin terminology is fine :)'
The implication that physical and biological nonhumanity are somehow considered valid widely enough that they could possibly be considered somehow "more legitimate" in this supposed implied tierlist is really funny to me, as a physical nonhuman who has to REALLY seek out places that won't straight up tell me I'm a delusional faker lol. There are still plenty of people who don't consider biological and physical nonhumanity to be a thing Period. If anything, spiritual nonhumanity has always been considered the most valid-- at least in my experience-- compared to other types. We still have people parading around the "otherkin/therians identify non-physically" descriptions
Though with the "entirely" thing, I can see that. In my opinion, I think you can be 'just' spiritual and still be entirely nonhuman, you can be 'just' psychological/physical/biological and still be entirely nonhuman. So I guess the legitimacy of that label is who would describe themself as wholly nonhuman no matter what type
Syskin is a term for the kintype(s) of an alter within a system. These kintypes may be of any subcategory under the Otherkin umbrella, including Otherkin itself, Fictionkin, Therian, etc, and may be due to any belief system (e.g. past lives, parallel universes, walk ins, etc) so long as the alter Identifies as their kintype(s)
Misanthropy in the community is genuinely a disease and I think it's one of the major contributors to a lot of the racism and bigotry in our spaces. I've seen plenty of individuals (not specifically on Tumblr, but in general) excuse away any potentially offensive or intolerant takes they may have as "well humans suck so why does it matter", as if them identifying as an animal absolves them from being a nasty asshole. And even if they don't say that directly, you can always tell when it's what they're thinking.
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Seriously. Like, believe it or not, therians are not "more normal" than fictionkin. Fictionkin have a long history too, they aren't newgen. They're our siblings. Always have been
as a therian i actually dont hate humans and i think hatred for humans in therian spaces is regressive. i understand that most awful things are human made but there are still good humans?? its unhelpful to assume that humans are simply evil and nothing more. also in a more utilitarian way, humans provide clean drinking water, food, medication etc. without humans, my liver problems probably wouldve killed me already 🤷🏻 i just think the rampant hate for humans is wrong and never productive.
I encourage everyone to read this, especially if you are white. I made this post long enough to talk about the points in decent detail, but short enough to be digestible. It is about the different ways the nonhuman communities make people of color feel unwelcome and why.
My askbox is open usually all the time, so I'm also open to answering questions about this. I want people to read. I want people to ask questions when they don't understand. I even want people to do research on their own time to learn more (and I mean actually researching and not asking ChatGPT to think for you).
Where To Begin
"Wow, this is a really long post on the police dog discourse", except this isn't a post on the police dog discourse. That topic is more of a springboard for me to segue into where exactly things go wrong and how it causes people of color to feel unsafe participating in the communities (which can suck, because nonhumanity can be very isolating with no one to talk to about it!). So if you feel as if this has been done to death and are thinking "oh boy, this again", I encourage you to continue to read the post all the way to the end. With that, this leads us to...
The Dilution of Topics
It's important to understand that when something like this comes up, POC are chiming in to explain the situation and how it affects them. It is not the time to bring in unrelated things in an attempt to use that as credentials for weighing in. I'll use the K-9/police dog example again because it's honestly such a good discourse to dissect for this. The main focus of the conversation was between black and brown people (not exclusively, because other POC included, but mainly) and those who identify as police/military dogs (therians, otherkin, whathaveyou). Not anyone else.
"As someone with a problematic (or villain) kintype--"
This isn't about you.
"I'm police or military creature from another world--"
This isn't about you.
"I acknowledge it but don't glorify it--"
This isn't about you.
What these comments do is not only watering down what our actual concerns are, but it speeds up the "internet telephone" until the conversation morphs into something different entirely. This happens all the time when people of color try to bring to light something that bothers us. Everyone wants to make it about themselves but it's not about everyone. The topic of "Glorification of these institutions that actively harm isn't good" is not the same as "What kintypes/theriotypes/etc. should people be allowed to have?", but it was turned into that very quickly because way too many people failed to realize and understand what isn't about them. Many, with a quickness, found a way to victimize themselves.
All that is without even getting into people adding exclusions that were not originally there. "This discourse is US-centric and doesn't apply to other countries" is not only incorrect but you need to educate yourself on how police brutality (and police brutality that utilizes attack animals) exists outside of the United States. This isn't even just for the dog thing. This also extends to racism in general because people love to talk about how not racist their country is (when in fact it often is).
White Privilege and Nonhuman Superiority
This section is probably going to ruffle some feathers, but if it does ruffle your feathers then it might be time to start deconstructing why exactly that is. White privilege in particular is important to point out here because it is common to assume that privilege is a "balance scale". Privilege doesn't cancel out from marginalization. You can be queer, or disabled, or neurodivergent, etc. and still benefit from white privilege. I point all of that out because the nonhuman communities have a large portion that are in one or many of these marginalized groups, and the assumption that it "cancels out" white privilege may be part of the driving force behind what's covered in this post.
An easy starting example of white people underestimating exactly how deep things can go is the entire gatekeeping discourse about defining therianthropy as "wears gear and does quadrobics". How this whole thing started with people insisting therianthropy required these performative aspects, I'm not even gonna pretend to know. What I do know is that it is a form of gatekeeping popular on photo and video-based social media websites like Instagram and TikTok that then subsequently bleeds over into other places like Tumblr and Discord group chats.
"Real therians wear gear and run around outside on all fours" makes me desperately hope for young POC to be careful. Black people especially have a disproportionately higher chance of being arrested or shot. I never want anyone to be pressured to do dangerous things from these imaginary guidelines on what makes nonhumanity "valid". It's exclusionary from both a "therianthropy doesn't require any of this" standpoint and a "you are overestimating how safe this activity is to do" standpoint. This isn't fearmongering, I'm not saying that this is never safe. I'm saying that those who are unable to safely do it may subsequently feel like that disqualifies them from identifying as a therian. Similar things can be said for other minorities other than racial ones, but that's a different topic (and I encourage anyone wanting to talk about that to make their own posts about it, rather than using this one).
The insistence that nonhumanity should have "racial colorblindness" and "be above politics/apolitical" are also very privileged takes. Identifying as nonhuman doesn't erase the fact that most of us still live in and are affected by human society (whether some want to be or not) and people of color especially do not have the freedom to completely divorce ourselves from the world because our very existence has been made political. Not only that, but culture is still important to a lot of people as well. We are not all the same just because we identify as nonhuman. We are not a monoculture. We are different and there needs to be room to celebrate that.
The aspect of "everything is for everyone" that often comes with white privilege appears in even blatant ways. I've witnessed people in the community saying that closed cultures are silly. Although slightly less common today (and by slightly I mean very slightly), at one point it was common for people to constantly appropriate North/South American indigenous cultures because their understanding of it was as shallow and stereotypical as "Pocahontas Colors of the Wind". I've even had someone say "well it's not our fault black people are so trendy" directly in a conversation about how black people regularly have our culture taken from us when we're barely even allowed to have it ourselves without being looked down on. It's gross and insensitive, and the very reason so many people of color leave these nonhuman communities. "Do whatever you want forever" exists within reason.
Identifying as nonhuman isn't an excuse to look down on humans either, especially in the misanthropic sense. Being anti-human and blaming humanity as a whole for the results of colonization (species extinction, habitat loss, climate change, etc.) goes against the marginalized people that have been harmed historically and currently and lumps them into the same category as their oppressors simply by existing.
It is Always That Deep
The last point that I'll use to close this whole post is that I can't stress enough how often us POC are told again and again and again that what we are seeing is either not real or irrational, or "just drama".
I remember the reaction to "maybe don't say you're an entity from a closed culture if you're not from that culture".
I remember the reaction to "don't use monkey/ape as a derogatory term for humans".
I remember the reaction to "don't glorify institutions that actively harm and kill us".
I remember the reaction to "please don't say dehumanization is good actually".
People will fight tooth and nail to speak over and ignore POC voices almost as a knee-jerk reaction. Then maybe if we're lucky, after they're done arguing, they'll do some research and come back later with an "oops my bad". I'm glad they learn in those cases, but that's not acceptable. Listening first is important, ask questions (respectfully) if you have to, but it should not be a fight-or-flight situation.
police dogs have permanently injured & have killed people, primarily against people who pose no legitimate threat to others.
there is a million fucking studies about the harm of police dogs. since you fuckheads don't actually give a shit about googling, i'll link you to a site that provides 29 different studies regarding police dogs.
yes, a dog cannot control who owns it, who trains it, etc. that part i agree with. but that does not change the fact that these dogs are used as tools for the police to commit harm upon others. police dogs are, in fact, tools used to commit hate crimes. yall are actively defending the role of a police dog in this post, and in turn actively defending the job of the police.
yes, police dogs can have other roles than attacking people, however these dogs also should not be working for the police. we do not need police dogs, just like we do not need the police. the police are used as tools of the state in order to protect private property and the people in power, not the community. the police enact violent hate crimes against marginalized communities and use police dogs as one of the tools to do that. there are dogs who perform the tasks that police dogs do that are actually good, like search and rescue dogs, that are not associated with the police (volunteer groups, primarily.)
don't come to me with that "umm well YOUR police [dog] is evil but MY police [dog] isn't" bullshit because it really is just a rebranded version of "well your country has a racism problem but mine doesn't." when we say acab, we fucking mean it. the role of a cop, of the police, is an evil one and every fucking cop is a bastard.
so, like the post yall are vaguing, i will say it again. you cannot control your theriotype, but if you are actively proud of having a canine theriotype with the active role as a police dog, you are a bigot. yall clearly do not care about BIPOC in the community and in general.
[white people reblog this shit but if you are gonna try and argue against anything i say in this post i will be putting you on blast & blocking you after!]
edit: stop turning this into fucking involuntary problematic kintype discourse. this conversation should be centering around not glorifying police dogs because it's racist as shit, and not around if a kintype makes someone inheriently evil or not. holy shit check your priorities if all you see in this is a conversation about defending someones problematic theriotype.
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We need to talk more about racism in the nonhuman communities (especially with how casual it is). And white people need to actually listen instead of getting all defensive and arguing about it
Being otherkin is not a legitimate axis of oppression and I'm sick of people treating it like it is. Sure some are oppressed because of saneism and a lot are bullied because of it but it's just... Not comparable to any other minority group
I think it's more comparable to alt subcultures if anything. They're both very ingrained into a person sense of self and usually come with personality quirks and appearances that normal people consider weird and worth harassing people over but there's never been any real laws or such to oppress them
While those who are plural/multiple can be alterhuman for their plurality/multiplicity, it's an entirely opt-in thing. You're not inherently alterhuman for being plural, but if you so wish to label You're plurality as such, then you're valid. I wish people like anon understood that more :/ Plurals, like any other neurodivergent person with a disorder that may affect how they perceive their humanity, is not always alterhuman (literally in the og coining post it says if they Want to consider themselves alterhuman they can-- implying its an individual identity you can choose to label yourself with rather than something you inherently apply to for being multiple
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18 , he/him , nonhuman and transspecies canine , therian/kin , system
#reblog🫎🐾 is my only blog-specific tag rn
Under the cut includes: Before You Follow/Interact, a general kinlist, and minor info about my system
"BYF/I ,, Before You Follow / Interact"
This is not necessarily a "DNI", mostly just a "If you don't like this, block me". I will block anyone I don't want to see in my feed.
While this blog is mainly for my nonhuman stuff, I want it to be a safe space for me all around, which is why this section is here.
I am a physical nonhuman. I support other physical nonhumans of all kinds.
I am anti: Rad-Q, Non-traumagenic Systemhood*, Rad-fems of all kinds, generative AI, and pro/neu/comp. contact paras.
* The term 'system' is medical. You can't claim to not have a medical disorder while using medical language; I don't believe in non-traumagenic plurals, but as long as they don't claim to be endo "systems" and they aren't spreading any misinformation about my disorder, idc
I am pro: good faith/contradictory labels (lesboy/turigirl, among others), physical nonhumanity and transspecies, recovery, yume/selfshipping, and whatever else that's harmless
I'm neutral on polyminds. Could not care any less
I don't consider myself alterhuman, so please, do not refer to me as such. I would also prefer if reblogs were not tagged with any alth tags, but that's not something I can enforce.
I believe that BOTH transmisogyny and transandrophobia are real experiences, along with any other term that describes intersectional oppression.
DNI:
Zoophiles, Necrophiles, Pedophiles, and any other paraphile whose paraphilia can cause real harm if acted upon. I am not your safe space. If your thoughts don't disturb you, get away from me. I will not be your friend. I will not be kind to you.
Endogenic / non-traumagenic plurals and their supporters. This is mostly a "don't follow", really, for my own comfort.
anyone that unironically uses 4chan lingo in arguments. you just seem so miserable.
"KINS"
This is mostly just a list of my IDs, honestly. I have way too many kin/theriotypes to list them all.
CLADOTYPES:
Canine
Deer
Owl
Bat
Hyena
SINGULAR 'TYPE IDs:
Dobermann
Vampire
Moose
Great Horned Owl
Vampire Bat
Hare
Jinmenken / Human Faced Dog
Werewolf
Ghost
Plush / Doll
Angel / Demon / Deity (all non-religious)
FICTIOTYPES:
Tenya Iida [MHA]
Adam [Hazbin Hotel]
Papyrus [Undertale]
Berdly [Deltarune]
Arlo Dittman [Magic Funhouse]
Komajiro [Yo-kai Watch]
Manjimutt [Yo-kai Watch]
Myotismon [Digimon]
"SYS INFO"
My system is collectively nonhuman, and you can assume most ID kintypes apply to a majority of alters. While I am a system, I do not consider myself to be plural, and prefer to be viewed as one person with alters.