receipts of MAPs, "profiction paraphiles" and the proshippers who defend them
The proship discourse space has been muddied by "pro paraphiles" who pretend to encourage "recovery" to strangers and are frequently enabled by proshippers. This posts aim to collect all evidence of said people who actually are:
-Following minors
-Following child models
-Justifying drawn NSFW using children photos
-Allowing PRO CONTACT zoophiles and MAPs to follow them if not outright encourage them
-Encouraging zoo and pedophiliac attractions
-Considering paraphiliacs, including zoophiles and MAPs, to be inherently queer for their attraction
-Generally purposefully allowing zoophiles and MAPs in "proship" spaces and wanting others to accept them
This is no longer about fiction nor protecting children and csa survivors.
Evidence will be provided below.
Receipts of user ZeebDemon and the proshippers who defend her.
Following PRO CONTACT Zoos and MAPs:
Following an "animals can consent" podcast
Following many pro-contact pedophiles and zoophiles, as seen here
Costantly hiding and downplaying her paraphilia, hiding behind TOS (the same TOS that no longer claims transphobia as hate speech as of now) and defending NSFW art meant to be pornographic based on real children (discussion here)
Following SEVERAL child models and liking their posts:
took a dive earlier, only maybe 3 are of actual age.
Encouraging every paraphiliac attraction and putting it on the same level as being queer:
When a user expressed their grievances, they responded by claiming that wanting to keep dangerous urges at bay is "puritanical dogma".
Link
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Following an adult who follows minors NSFW and instead of reporting she just hopes to be "a positive influence and rolemodel".
adybpt, a 11k followers proship discourser actively defended Zeebdemon and believed her on her word that "she wants to be a positive influence for their followers", all evidence above ignored.
Several proship/left leaning users blindly agreed with adybpt and derailed the conversation by arguing about other issues with altright users. As legitimate these other concerns were, the original discussion of MAPs infiltrating proship spaces and profiction discourse has been derailed.
Now proships encourage acting as licensed therapists to strangers online
Zeeb follows these people to try and talk them into seeking therapy, not because she supports these actions.
28/11/2022 edit: adybpt has unfollowed zeebdemon after peerpressure from other users showing further proof. This changes nothing. In fact, that him and other proshippers were ok with a ZOOMAP following procontacts en masse trying to "change their minds" like some paraphile Jesus Christ is damning in itself. Would you follow dozens of violent hate accounts trying to change their minds, while also following hate speech rethoric accounts and actively excusing their hate symbols?
adybpt also conveniently took zeebdemon's words in good faith while slamming other users and derailing the conversation, ignoring other replies showing proof
Other proshippers immediately came to adybpt's defense, saying he couldn't know about proof, that's not his job to vet his followers and see all their tweets, yet they couldn't spend a word on Zeebdemon and other ZOOMAPs welcoming procontacts. Regardless if the attack was in bad faith, the fact remains that adybpt endorsed a zoomap to 11k followers and did not delete until called out for 2 days.
What are these popular proshippers focusing on? Bridget's gender discourse. Not deplatforming zoomaps. Slamming random antis and right wing dudebros. Identity politics. Calling out pedophiles and zoophiles following children and pro-contacts? Too much work.
These proshippers have thousands of followers. They should do better than platform pedophiles and zoophiles. This has nothing to do with fiction anymore.
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stwawbwewypwess had a whole fallout encouraging "map rights" and "abolish the sex offender registry". She was also followed by minors and zoophiles.
PolitePuppet/340678002x9, a popular artist and proshipper actively supporting her after the fallout
Claiming that "paraphilia discourse" was vital to proship ideology. No, it never was. Proship ideology was born on the petty ship wars on tumblr around 2015. Paraphiliac discussion was only shoehorned in by those directly affected, hoping to find a space among proshippers.
PolitePuppet also follows Zeebdemon on their side account, handsomehugs
Many proshippers also gave stwawbwewypwess the benefit of the doubt, despite all the red flags.
stwawbwewypwess has been suspended, but her ideas are still lingering in proship spaces.
I only wanted to collect proof to showcase the problem because it gets brushed off too often. Do not harass in any way these users.
edit 2: adybpt derailed the conversation again, ignored a pro-para user's followings and their pro-c followers and of course ignored this post.
noticed your part about “handsomehugs” supporting a MAP and wanted to say that they are or were friend with someone that supports incest and even claims to be in a “relationship” with her father (couldn’t get Ang side since they deleted their account)
(In fact you could make a whole ass post about people defending Deadspacedog, wanted to dm you but they are closed)
Deadspacedog is roleplaying, if you read her "article" (really just a fanfiction) on AO3 it becomes obvious it's all made up, there's no sources to her dad's story online. The people who appear to support it as if it were real should be called out, ang included.
of course she supports "map rights, if you have map dni you're a republican" aggie, no surprises.
I've read around that her actual father is dead, no sources but it would make her act even more concerning.
It gotta be a roleplay simply because all the story around her supposed dad is completely fake, there's no traces on the internet of her artist dad's past artwork. What's really weird is how she insists on not breaking this strange roleplay even if she left herself proof that's clearly a roleplay on her own ao3 fanfiction.
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Who did Glip and Eevee befriend in the art and tech spheres to be so untouchable ??? No doubt those in the industry that protect them sympathize with predators at best
Art spheres no. Glip used to be this way but fell out of grace with the big fluff logs dropped.
Tech and indie game communities however, are still partial to protecting Eevee because she plays up the 'It's all kiwifarms & transphobia' angle really well and wasn't ever actually married to Marl - loosening the impact of the BF logs on her reputation compared to Glip.
I'll use cohost as an example, because it's pretty blatant there.
Just look at the comments on this post on her cohost, and how she talks about her detractors.
....The post she's talking about, by the way, is only about Lain and Big Fluff. The 2 children Marl sexually abused. It's true that both kids posted on kiwifarms, but it's extremely manipulatively dishonest to refer to them both as just KF users.
Cohost btw, seems to be in her pocket. The one time I'm aware that someone called Eevee out on something, they got banned from the platform entirely nearly instantly.
The original comment was on this post of Eevee's. Eevee edited it out, but the same comment was shared on lolcow and had a link in it. Here is the tweet the banned commenter linked to, and relevant screenshots. Guess she didn't want people seeing this. I wonder why?
It was this comment to Eevee that pushed Glip to double down on wishing Jollys suicide attempt was successful, looking at the timing of everything.
Twitter sucks, but if Cohost is willing to look the other way at abhorrent behavior like wishing that someone who attempted suicide twice was successful....so long as the person doing that said abhorrent behavior is Eevee...but quick to drop the hammer on those that lightly point out that said behavior is beyond fucked up - then cohost is rotten at the top and isn't worth using.
receipts of MAPs, "profiction paraphiles" and the proshippers who defend them
The proship discourse space has been muddied by "pro paraphiles" who pretend to encourage "recovery" to strangers and are frequently enabled by proshippers. This posts aim to collect all evidence of said people who actually are:
-Following minors
-Following child models
-Justifying drawn NSFW using children photos
-Allowing PRO CONTACT zoophiles and MAPs to follow them if not outright encourage them
-Encouraging zoo and pedophiliac attractions
-Considering paraphiliacs, including zoophiles and MAPs, to be inherently queer for their attraction
-Generally purposefully allowing zoophiles and MAPs in "proship" spaces and wanting others to accept them
This is no longer about fiction nor protecting children and csa survivors.
Evidence will be provided below.
Receipts of user ZeebDemon and the proshippers who defend her.
Following PRO CONTACT Zoos and MAPs:
Following an "animals can consent" podcast
Following many pro-contact pedophiles and zoophiles, as seen here
Costantly hiding and downplaying her paraphilia, hiding behind TOS (the same TOS that no longer claims transphobia as hate speech as of now) and defending NSFW art meant to be pornographic based on real children (discussion here)
Following SEVERAL child models and liking their posts:
took a dive earlier, only maybe 3 are of actual age.
Encouraging every paraphiliac attraction and putting it on the same level as being queer:
When a user expressed their grievances, they responded by claiming that wanting to keep dangerous urges at bay is "puritanical dogma".
Link
link
Following an adult who follows minors NSFW and instead of reporting she just hopes to be "a positive influence and rolemodel".
adybpt, a 11k followers proship discourser actively defended Zeebdemon and believed her on her word that "she wants to be a positive influence for their followers", all evidence above ignored.
Several proship/left leaning users blindly agreed with adybpt and derailed the conversation by arguing about other issues with altright users. As legitimate these other concerns were, the original discussion of MAPs infiltrating proship spaces and profiction discourse has been derailed.
Now proships encourage acting as licensed therapists to strangers online
Zeeb follows these people to try and talk them into seeking therapy, not because she supports these actions.
28/11/2022 edit: adybpt has unfollowed zeebdemon after peerpressure from other users showing further proof. This changes nothing. In fact, that him and other proshippers were ok with a ZOOMAP following procontacts en masse trying to "change their minds" like some paraphile Jesus Christ is damning in itself. Would you follow dozens of violent hate accounts trying to change their minds, while also following hate speech rethoric accounts and actively excusing their hate symbols?
adybpt also conveniently took zeebdemon's words in good faith while slamming other users and derailing the conversation, ignoring other replies showing proof
Other proshippers immediately came to adybpt's defense, saying he couldn't know about proof, that's not his job to vet his followers and see all their tweets, yet they couldn't spend a word on Zeebdemon and other ZOOMAPs welcoming procontacts. Regardless if the attack was in bad faith, the fact remains that adybpt endorsed a zoomap to 11k followers and did not delete until called out for 2 days.
What are these popular proshippers focusing on? Bridget's gender discourse. Not deplatforming zoomaps. Slamming random antis and right wing dudebros. Identity politics. Calling out pedophiles and zoophiles following children and pro-contacts? Too much work.
These proshippers have thousands of followers. They should do better than platform pedophiles and zoophiles. This has nothing to do with fiction anymore.
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stwawbwewypwess had a whole fallout encouraging "map rights" and "abolish the sex offender registry". She was also followed by minors and zoophiles.
PolitePuppet/340678002x9, a popular artist and proshipper actively supporting her after the fallout
Claiming that "paraphilia discourse" was vital to proship ideology. No, it never was. Proship ideology was born on the petty ship wars on tumblr around 2015. Paraphiliac discussion was only shoehorned in by those directly affected, hoping to find a space among proshippers.
PolitePuppet also follows Zeebdemon on their side account, handsomehugs
Many proshippers also gave stwawbwewypwess the benefit of the doubt, despite all the red flags.
stwawbwewypwess has been suspended, but her ideas are still lingering in proship spaces.
I only wanted to collect proof to showcase the problem because it gets brushed off too often. Do not harass in any way these users.
edit 2: adybpt derailed the conversation again, ignored a pro-para user's followings and their pro-c followers and of course ignored this post.
noticed your part about “handsomehugs” supporting a MAP and wanted to say that they are or were friend with someone that supports incest and even claims to be in a “relationship” with her father (couldn’t get Ang side since they deleted their account)
(In fact you could make a whole ass post about people defending Deadspacedog, wanted to dm you but they are closed)
Deadspacedog is roleplaying, if you read her "article" (really just a fanfiction) on AO3 it becomes obvious it's all made up, there's no sources to her dad's story online. The people who appear to support it as if it were real should be called out, ang included.
not only are the people behind ao3 racist zionists, they allow rape fanfiction of real minors until legal action is taken into account. they say it's legal, until somebody threatens to sue to take it down.
r/ao3 is a zionist, racist, pro child RPF shithole
I'm sure you've all heard of ao3 being run by zionists. Reddit is fully on Ao3's side and shitting on Orchestratif for bringing this to light, calling him a "westerner" (he's indo-chinese) and an "extremist".
The "extremist" take in question is being against drawn NSFW based on the likeness of a real child. Which is illegal and unethical.
We got a professional war crime in the name of fanfiction apologist and she's a TERF
Tons of liberal centrism, both sides, whatabaoutism, over fucking genocide. The only people offended by Palestine's liberation in "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" are GENOCIDAL ZIONISTS.
Supporting genocide is just twitter drama I guess
Whole zionist wall of texts full of Israel proapganda. The first line is more than enough for you to read.
And of course, we have disingenuous zionists comparing themselves to oppressed minorities
Well if you replace "fascists" with "(minority of your choice)" it changes meaning doesn't it
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Do not spread or justify artwork exploiting the likeness of real children, as it counts as csem in most legislation such as most of Europe and the USA. It doesn't matter if the child in question is an adult now. It's still CHILD EXPLOITATION, just like AI and Deepfakes made on the likeness of existing children
according to these people it's fine to draw child actors in nsfw because they won't sue (it's not fine and it's not legal, not even by twitter TOS)
comparing exploiting child's actor likeness for nsfw to... abortion being banned?
insinuating that "anime" style nsfw of real children is perfectly fine and ok if it's... meme-able?
this is zrcalo/struggs, a well known pedophile and zoophile, denying the artist in question had an obsession with the child actor. which they absolutely did, since they posted and used behind the scenes photos as reference for their art, multiple times, and self-admitted their obsession on twitter
a libertarian arguing it's ok to make NSFW art of real children if they're an adult now and "giving permission" to use their likeness
"just scroll over nsfw art of child actors, no biggie"
I know this account is supposed to be inactive now, but I'd like to note that one of the people in the screenshots, cultmenephila, is the one who created the 🌈🍖 label, and has repeatedly defended CSEM in the past, among other actually harmful things (such as hate speech), while denying defense of it. But, her label was made to defend things like this. Please stop using it to mean "proship," as that's not what 🌈🍖 means. By her own admission, it means "radically anti-censorship." Take a guess what she means by "radical."
Thank you very much for your contribution. I had no idea. This subset of "proshippers" who defend RPF of children has been known, but many have come out more openly now because the art is "anime".
The others were self described proshippers. I will edit the post to add this information
Do not spread or justify artwork exploiting the likeness of real children, as it counts as csem in most legislation such as most of Europe and the USA. It doesn't matter if the child in question is an adult now. It's still CHILD EXPLOITATION, just like AI and Deepfakes made on the likeness of existing children
according to these people it's fine to draw child actors in nsfw because they won't sue (it's not fine and it's not legal, not even by twitter TOS)
comparing exploiting child's actor likeness for nsfw to... abortion being banned?
insinuating that "anime" style nsfw of real children is perfectly fine and ok if it's... meme-able?
edit: addition from a reblog
this is zrcalo/struggs, a well known pedophile and zoophile, denying the artist in question had an obsession with the child actor. which they absolutely did, since they posted and used behind the scenes photos as reference for their art, multiple times, and self-admitted their obsession on twitter
a libertarian arguing it's ok to make NSFW art of real children if they're an adult now and "giving permission" to use their likeness
"just scroll over nsfw art of child actors, no biggie"
Nobody is obligated to speak about Palestine. Nobody is obligated to speak about Ukraine. Nobody is obligated to talk about ANY political issue. If you don't want to talk about any of these issues because it is too distressing for you, you are valid. You are NOT complicit, you do NOT have blood on your hands. Do not let those toxic assholes on Twitter or other sites tell you otherwise. They're abusive, and they want to control you. Your mental health comes first. Is this about ignoring these issues? No. This is about the fact that nobody gets to decide what YOU post.
This is not even mentioning that, realistically, those politicians up at the top don't give a shit about us whether or not we agree with them. We are merely a bunch of little pawns to be be used by them. They don't give a shit, and they will ignore us. Either that, or they will abandon us once they decide that our usefulness has ended. This is not a nihilistic view. This is a realistic view.
Also, don't hit me with that "oh you're sitting comfortably in the United States far away so you are privileged"
I'm very mentally ill. My therapist says I shouldn't be engaging in highly disturbing and sensitive political topics due to how badly it affects my anxiety and depression. It costs you nothing to not be abliest.
Boohoo. You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and ridded with PTSD right now with the horrors they're facing? You're facing the other way because genocide makes you uncomfy?
You think people should ignore what's going on because politicians don't care? You can't see how people protesting and making noise is better than nothing? Are you really this selfish and complicit?
Get off the internet if you can't cope. Quit posting. No need to contribute with your selfish spiel.
The people suffering genocide don't even have a choice.
"You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and riddled with ptsd?"
Of course not, I'm not a dumbass the point went right over your head. Yourself do damn arrogant. Not wanting to talk about those issues does not make you complicit. If everyone had to talk about every single issue ever, then they'd have no time to focus on things to enjoy.
"Get off the internet if you can't cope?"
How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"The people suffering from genocide don't have a choice?"
Okay, and? I'm still under no obligation to talk about it. Genocide is awful and all, but at the same time, you must realize that it isn't a highly disturbing topic that is distressing to read and talk about. Sensitive topic is triggering to people. Who would have fucking guessed?
I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
"Genocide is awful and all, but" BUT? YOU ARE SERIOUSLY GOING "GENOCIDE IS BAD, BUT"?
>How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"How about I hit you with my car." Get off the internet and shut down your TV if you can't handle the news.
>I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
Ah, there you have it. You only care about what's close to you. What directly affects you. You simply lack empathy! That's a nice confession there.
People getting killed is too much, endless online debates about fandom ships is better activism for the real world, I'm sure your republican politicians and Joe Biden will care about these more.
"Genocide is bad, BUT it's too distant from me so it doesn't affect me and nothing will change so I'll just stay silent, I can't cope with the events!"
You are selfish and trying to make excuse to not care because it doesn't affect you.
Are you going to keep glossing over the fact that MY ACTUAL THERAPIST told me that I shouldn't be engaging in highly sensitive and disturbing political topics such as genocide? That was an actual recommendation my therapist made, and I follow because I'm severely mentally ill.
Not like you ableist fucks would care anyways but, eh, whatever. I'm preaching to the choir at this point more than anything, I suppose. Nobody cares about the struggles of the mentally ill no matter where or who they are, after all.
And, yeah. I am against the mass murdering of innocents. That goes for the Islamophobic Israeli government, and it goes for the Antisemetic HAMAS terrorists. I already posted something along those lines a few weeks ago as an overarching sort of thing, and I figured that was enough. Because it is. Although I still believed that posting at all isn't required.
please tell me why should I care about you when you openly admitted you only care about your country's own problems and not the rest of the world.
I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
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Nobody is obligated to speak about Palestine. Nobody is obligated to speak about Ukraine. Nobody is obligated to talk about ANY political issue. If you don't want to talk about any of these issues because it is too distressing for you, you are valid. You are NOT complicit, you do NOT have blood on your hands. Do not let those toxic assholes on Twitter or other sites tell you otherwise. They're abusive, and they want to control you. Your mental health comes first. Is this about ignoring these issues? No. This is about the fact that nobody gets to decide what YOU post.
This is not even mentioning that, realistically, those politicians up at the top don't give a shit about us whether or not we agree with them. We are merely a bunch of little pawns to be be used by them. They don't give a shit, and they will ignore us. Either that, or they will abandon us once they decide that our usefulness has ended. This is not a nihilistic view. This is a realistic view.
Also, don't hit me with that "oh you're sitting comfortably in the United States far away so you are privileged"
I'm very mentally ill. My therapist says I shouldn't be engaging in highly disturbing and sensitive political topics due to how badly it affects my anxiety and depression. It costs you nothing to not be abliest.
Boohoo. You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and ridded with PTSD right now with the horrors they're facing? You're facing the other way because genocide makes you uncomfy?
You think people should ignore what's going on because politicians don't care? You can't see how people protesting and making noise is better than nothing? Are you really this selfish and complicit?
Get off the internet if you can't cope. Quit posting. No need to contribute with your selfish spiel.
The people suffering genocide don't even have a choice.
"You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and riddled with ptsd?"
Of course not, I'm not a dumbass the point went right over your head. Yourself do damn arrogant. Not wanting to talk about those issues does not make you complicit. If everyone had to talk about every single issue ever, then they'd have no time to focus on things to enjoy.
"Get off the internet if you can't cope?"
How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"The people suffering from genocide don't have a choice?"
Okay, and? I'm still under no obligation to talk about it. Genocide is awful and all, but at the same time, you must realize that it isn't a highly disturbing topic that is distressing to read and talk about. Sensitive topic is triggering to people. Who would have fucking guessed?
I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
"Genocide is awful and all, but" BUT? YOU ARE SERIOUSLY GOING "GENOCIDE IS BAD, BUT"?
>How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"How about I hit you with my car." Get off the internet and shut down your TV if you can't handle the news.
>I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
Ah, there you have it. You only care about what's close to you. What directly affects you. You simply lack empathy! That's a nice confession there.
People getting killed is too much, endless online debates about fandom ships is better activism for the real world, I'm sure your republican politicians and Joe Biden will care about these more.
"Genocide is bad, BUT it's too distant from me so it doesn't affect me and nothing will change so I'll just stay silent, I can't cope with the events!"
You are selfish and trying to make excuse to not care because it doesn't affect you.
This is clearly an issue that effects you greatly, and the situation of the Palestinians are horrible, so I don't exactly blame you for those feelings.
But how about we keep the death threats out of it, especially when talking to somebody that has stated they are mentally ill and get triggered by the situation in Israel and Palestine? If they're triggered by that, saying that to them probably won't help.
I suggest you look over these posts and see if you would like to change the wording. This is from personal experience, I have posted something and looked over it later and have been like "that was so bad"
Actually, I looked through your account and saw that you're obsessed with going after proshippers. No wonder you don't give a shit about other people's mental well being if you're an antishipper. Knowing your kind, the "how about I hit you with my car" is more than just a meme.
Also, yes. You do have to tag sensitive topics so that people who don't want to see it can filter it out, and people who do want to see it can find it easier. That's the entire fucking reason why Tumblr has tags in the first place, you politically obsessed asshole.
I don't want to see videos of real children fucking dying while looking for anime memes. So, yes. You do have to tag your posts if they contain sensitive topics.
I'm not an anti lmaooooo it's a meme based upon the fact that asking certain things to be "tw tagged" is not very reasonable! especially "please tag genocide because it's making me uncomfy and i don't wanna see it because it doesn't concern me and i want to jack off to anime I am the totally normal one here"
log off. or maybe next time stay silent instead of making a stink about how you're so brave for not talking about things, nobody would have cared if you hadn't tagged it everywhere to call for attention. here's the attention you ordered!
"politically obsessed asshole" ahahahahahah so it's politics if it's brown kids dying but it's personal and close when it's americans getting shot
Nobody is obligated to speak about Palestine. Nobody is obligated to speak about Ukraine. Nobody is obligated to talk about ANY political issue. If you don't want to talk about any of these issues because it is too distressing for you, you are valid. You are NOT complicit, you do NOT have blood on your hands. Do not let those toxic assholes on Twitter or other sites tell you otherwise. They're abusive, and they want to control you. Your mental health comes first. Is this about ignoring these issues? No. This is about the fact that nobody gets to decide what YOU post.
This is not even mentioning that, realistically, those politicians up at the top don't give a shit about us whether or not we agree with them. We are merely a bunch of little pawns to be be used by them. They don't give a shit, and they will ignore us. Either that, or they will abandon us once they decide that our usefulness has ended. This is not a nihilistic view. This is a realistic view.
Also, don't hit me with that "oh you're sitting comfortably in the United States far away so you are privileged"
I'm very mentally ill. My therapist says I shouldn't be engaging in highly disturbing and sensitive political topics due to how badly it affects my anxiety and depression. It costs you nothing to not be abliest.
Boohoo. You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and ridded with PTSD right now with the horrors they're facing? You're facing the other way because genocide makes you uncomfy?
You think people should ignore what's going on because politicians don't care? You can't see how people protesting and making noise is better than nothing? Are you really this selfish and complicit?
Get off the internet if you can't cope. Quit posting. No need to contribute with your selfish spiel.
The people suffering genocide don't even have a choice.
"You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and riddled with ptsd?"
Of course not, I'm not a dumbass the point went right over your head. Yourself do damn arrogant. Not wanting to talk about those issues does not make you complicit. If everyone had to talk about every single issue ever, then they'd have no time to focus on things to enjoy.
"Get off the internet if you can't cope?"
How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"The people suffering from genocide don't have a choice?"
Okay, and? I'm still under no obligation to talk about it. Genocide is awful and all, but at the same time, you must realize that it isn't a highly disturbing topic that is distressing to read and talk about. Sensitive topic is triggering to people. Who would have fucking guessed?
I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
"Genocide is awful and all, but" BUT? YOU ARE SERIOUSLY GOING "GENOCIDE IS BAD, BUT"?
>How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"How about I hit you with my car." Get off the internet and shut down your TV if you can't handle the news.
>I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
Ah, there you have it. You only care about what's close to you. What directly affects you. You simply lack empathy! That's a nice confession there.
People getting killed is too much, endless online debates about fandom ships is better activism for the real world, I'm sure your republican politicians and Joe Biden will care about these more.
"Genocide is bad, BUT it's too distant from me so it doesn't affect me and nothing will change so I'll just stay silent, I can't cope with the events!"
You are selfish and trying to make excuse to not care because it doesn't affect you.
This is clearly an issue that effects you greatly, and the situation of the Palestinians are horrible, so I don't exactly blame you for those feelings.
But how about we keep the death threats out of it, especially when talking to somebody that has stated they are mentally ill and get triggered by the situation in Israel and Palestine? If they're triggered by that, saying that to them probably won't help.
I suggest you look over these posts and see if you would like to change the wording. This is from personal experience, I have posted something and looked over it later and have been like "that was so bad"
Can I ask what date this was posted? For the most part this just looks like a pro Jewish message and not a pro Israel one. He even used 🔯 instead of 🇮🇱. It's important to make the distinction as there are a lot of anti-Zionist jews who probably still don't want to be discriminated against. If you want an openly Zionist proship icon to cancel Tara Strong is right there as well, she has been going off with racist rants since the 7th. But at this point we'd have to make 300+ more posts about each Zionist.
I'm not defending him btw, I also haven't watched Hannibal so whatever happens happens to me. And Zionist or not, sexual harassment allegations are serious.
Good observation, there's no date on the post, however I've read it's been deleted. Doesn't seem to be faked. The reposted screenshot is also recent, from 21 october, if it's straight from the source. Timing is very suspicious.
Regarding Tara Strong: she's been fired and there's been a lot of noise thankfully. Same for other celebrities. This post is specifically about Bryan Fuller because of the Proship mug and stuff that rose him to proship fame.
The sexual harassment allegations can be easily googled, so there's that as proof.
Either way, there's been 0 discussion about him, which is why I was asking.
He made the Hannibal tv series. And I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't personally keep up with the personal lives of actors/writers because I don't form weird parasocial relationships with them.
He's pretty well known for being proship from what I've heard. And the only reason I know that is because a lot of other proshippers used to use that against antis at one point, so that's probably why OP would think proshippers would know.
Like I said, I don't really care about actors/writers so I don't keep up with them unless they've done something really fucked up.
Mh. I dunno who any of you people are, but Bryan Fuller was really popular on twitter for endorsing a proship small shop and buying a mug. We're talking about thousands of likes here from big proship account. No words from them after this happened.
Congrats for being healthy about the guy, I've never watched Hannibal. But you're definitely not influential big accounts I can even be mad at...
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Nobody is obligated to speak about Palestine. Nobody is obligated to speak about Ukraine. Nobody is obligated to talk about ANY political issue. If you don't want to talk about any of these issues because it is too distressing for you, you are valid. You are NOT complicit, you do NOT have blood on your hands. Do not let those toxic assholes on Twitter or other sites tell you otherwise. They're abusive, and they want to control you. Your mental health comes first. Is this about ignoring these issues? No. This is about the fact that nobody gets to decide what YOU post.
This is not even mentioning that, realistically, those politicians up at the top don't give a shit about us whether or not we agree with them. We are merely a bunch of little pawns to be be used by them. They don't give a shit, and they will ignore us. Either that, or they will abandon us once they decide that our usefulness has ended. This is not a nihilistic view. This is a realistic view.
Also, don't hit me with that "oh you're sitting comfortably in the United States far away so you are privileged"
I'm very mentally ill. My therapist says I shouldn't be engaging in highly disturbing and sensitive political topics due to how badly it affects my anxiety and depression. It costs you nothing to not be abliest.
Boohoo. You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and ridded with PTSD right now with the horrors they're facing? You're facing the other way because genocide makes you uncomfy?
You think people should ignore what's going on because politicians don't care? You can't see how people protesting and making noise is better than nothing? Are you really this selfish and complicit?
Get off the internet if you can't cope. Quit posting. No need to contribute with your selfish spiel.
The people suffering genocide don't even have a choice.
"You don't think the people in Palestine (and Ukraine) are mentally ill and riddled with ptsd?"
Of course not, I'm not a dumbass the point went right over your head. Yourself do damn arrogant. Not wanting to talk about those issues does not make you complicit. If everyone had to talk about every single issue ever, then they'd have no time to focus on things to enjoy.
"Get off the internet if you can't cope?"
How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"The people suffering from genocide don't have a choice?"
Okay, and? I'm still under no obligation to talk about it. Genocide is awful and all, but at the same time, you must realize that it isn't a highly disturbing topic that is distressing to read and talk about. Sensitive topic is triggering to people. Who would have fucking guessed?
I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
"Genocide is awful and all, but" BUT? YOU ARE SERIOUSLY GOING "GENOCIDE IS BAD, BUT"?
>How about you tag your Tumblr posts properly so people who don't want to see it can easily filter it?
"How about I hit you with my car." Get off the internet and shut down your TV if you can't handle the news.
>I, personally, prioritize my country's domestic issues such as puritanicalism, homophobia, transphobia, corruption, etc. as they affect me more directly.
Ah, there you have it. You only care about what's close to you. What directly affects you. You simply lack empathy! That's a nice confession there.
People getting killed is too much, endless online debates about fandom ships is better activism for the real world, I'm sure your republican politicians and Joe Biden will care about these more.
"Genocide is bad, BUT it's too distant from me so it doesn't affect me and nothing will change so I'll just stay silent, I can't cope with the events!"
You are selfish and trying to make excuse to not care because it doesn't affect you.
Did you read anything about what I said at all? There are people dying en masse in my country, too. There is a quiet genocide going on here in the United States against various groups the government finds undesirable, and I just so happen to be part of some of those groups. I am focused on not fucking dying in my own country. I trust none of the feds. None of them. I know for certain they will feel karma sooner or later.
I don't see any missiles, bombs, white phosphorus, and military action on the USA.
What the hell is wrong with you to even compare what you usamericans go through to PALESTINE'S GENOCIDE? You're terminally online. You are selfish, entitled and blind beyond belief
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